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Tragedy on Alec Baldwin's film set

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Gingernaut · 22/10/2021 07:34

Alec Baldwin has shot two people with what was thought to be a prop gun.

One person, he cinematographer is dead and the second has been hospitalised.

Absolutely stunning news.

www.nytimes.com/2021/10/21/us/alec-baldwin-shooting-rust-movie.html

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Noeuf · 22/10/2021 21:10

ancientgran thank you for your use of Google 😂 I’m not unfamiliar with the definitions but never mind. I don’t think it was intentional but I do think it was probably preventable.

EachandEveryone · 22/10/2021 21:12

Its just so horrific

Bluntness100 · 22/10/2021 21:20

I feel awful for everyone involved and I’m horrified at anyone insinuating it was deliberate, he clearly didn’t chose to murder her for gods sake. Th details are not released but it seems this was a tragic accident.

Bluntness100 · 22/10/2021 21:22

@Noeuf

ancientgran thank you for your use of Google 😂 I’m not unfamiliar with the definitions but never mind. I don’t think it was intentional but I do think it was probably preventable.
It’s not funny and many accidents are avoidable. The two are not mutually exclusive.
Noeuf · 22/10/2021 21:30

Bluntness.
The use of Google to find definitions to try to prove a point is funny. The incident is not funny. The two are not related.
HTH.

etulosba · 22/10/2021 22:40

Its not an accident I don’t think, it will end up being avoidable IMO

Aren’t most accidents avoidable?

amusedtodeath1 · 22/10/2021 22:57

I read that the poor woman who died was wounded in the abdomen and the director in the clavicle. My thought was she was stood up at the camera a he was sat behind looking at the screen.

Terrible, shocking accident.

IamMummyhearmeROAR · 22/10/2021 23:54

I remember the terrible death of Jon Eric Hexum who died in 84 after accidentally shooting himself in the head with a prop gun. He was only 26 and a rising star.

Motherdare · 23/10/2021 00:14

Alec Baldwin was the Producer of the film. The production company (was it his own?) is ultimately responsible for set safety. The rumours are of non-union workers and cost cutting and if any of that has played a role here then AB is in big trouble.

Lawsuits for years.

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MimiDaisy11 · 23/10/2021 01:51

@Hopeisallineed

I still don’t understand how you can accidentally shoot two people. Surely after shooting the first you would notice something was very wrong?!
It was either just one shot which injured both as the two people were close to each other, or if he fired twice it was in quick succession and he likely didn’t realise in time. I’d say it’s more likely to be the former.
HonorHiding · 23/10/2021 02:36

The Guardian reports that AB was inadvertently handed a loaded weapon by an assistant director, and told that it was safe to use.

AlwaysLatte · 23/10/2021 03:21

It is a tragedy and an awful thing to happen but your OP sounds positively gleeful.
Stunning in this case clearly means 'shocking'

Bluntness100 · 23/10/2021 07:23

@Motherdare

Alec Baldwin was the Producer of the film. The production company (was it his own?) is ultimately responsible for set safety. The rumours are of non-union workers and cost cutting and if any of that has played a role here then AB is in big trouble.

Lawsuits for years.

What an odd take. It doesn’t look like the two are related. The cost cutting was about hotels etc.

He was handed a loaded weapon and told it was empty, he shot, and the bullet went through her body and hit his behind. So yes there will be an investigation and possible law suits but against the production company not him personally and the company will be insured.

It was an accident that was horrific for everyone involved, Inc the person who pulled the trigger who will likely never get over what happened.

YouJustFoldItIn · 23/10/2021 07:27

It was either just one shot which injured both as the two people were close to each other, or if he fired twice it was in quick succession and he likely didn’t realise in time. I’d say it’s more likely to be the former.

It was one bullet that hit the woman who died, before passing right through her, hitting the man behind her in the clavicle.

3luckystars · 23/10/2021 09:39

That is a horrific thing to happen.

ancientgran · 23/10/2021 09:57

@Noeuf

ancientgran thank you for your use of Google 😂 I’m not unfamiliar with the definitions but never mind. I don’t think it was intentional but I do think it was probably preventable.
I guess it likely was preventable but you said Accidents are unavoidable - I doubt this was. but accidents are often avoidable, still accidents.
Bluntness100 · 23/10/2021 10:45

I just can’t even imagine the horror. To shoot a colleague in the chest at point blank range and kill her, when you think you’re holding an empty gun, the shock of that, the trauma is something thay will take a long time to get over, if ever.

My predominant sympathies are with her child and husband, it’s beyond horrific to loose someone, particularly a parent when you’re a child. But I also have sympathy for Baldwin, thr absolute shock of it is totally unimaginable. This also isn’t a stranger he didn’t know, by all accounts she was someone he was friends with and close to.

How the hell he was handed a loaded gun and told to aim at the camera and thus her, and to pull the trigger is so unfathomable.

wolfstarling · 23/10/2021 10:59

Surely the gun should be double checked. I wouldn't trust someone to say the gun is 'safe'. Guns need to be removed from films sets. Not AB's fault but the whole industry needs to change after this incident

Aquarius1234 · 23/10/2021 11:06

Sounds like even it it was a blank bullet it would have still badly hurt if not killed her?
Blanks cause damage so why aim at someone?

Aquarius1234 · 23/10/2021 11:08

AB should know pulling any trigger can harm. Stupid to try it.

Bluntness100 · 23/10/2021 11:09

@Aquarius1234

Sounds like even it it was a blank bullet it would have still badly hurt if not killed her? Blanks cause damage so why aim at someone?
He must have thought it was unloaded. Ie nothing in th chamber, I doubt he’d have been instructed to aim a gun with blanks at her. He was told it was safe, and there were staff there whose job it was to make sure it was. He doesn’t manage his own props.

Clearly something went drastically wrong and a horrific error was made.

SequinsandStiIettos · 23/10/2021 11:30

Jesus, her poor family. And poor Alec Baldwin - who is anti-guns - and now has to face that for the rest of his life, as well as have it come up whenever his name is mentioned: He was told ''cold gun'' by the assistant director who allegedly picked up the gun from a cart.

That puts AD Dave Halls in the frame for negligence along with armourer Hannah Guttierez, if she placed three guns on the cart and one contained live rounds (which should never be on set anyway). She removed a shell casing from the gun before handing it over allegedly.

Hotelhelp · 23/10/2021 11:31

@Aquarius1234 clearly he’s have been under the impression that what he was doing was safe and it was part of the filming. He would have had to shoot for the scene.

EmotionalSupportBear · 23/10/2021 11:32

honestly, saying there is 'no such thing as a prop gun' is unacceptable.

Guns being used as props shouldn't be allowed to accept live rounds, at all.

In todays day and age with modern science and computer enhancements/animation there should NEVER be ANY need for a loaded gun to be on set, not even with blanks.