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Why did Harry Potter become so popular?

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KindergartenKop · 16/10/2021 21:38

I'm not a huge fan personally, but I think they're quite well written. I'm not sure they deserve all the hype though. So why did they become so popular?

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scooterbear · 17/10/2021 09:53

I liked them becuase my favourite books as a child were The Worst Witch series-a s Harry Potter just seemed to be that, but on steroids. Escapism with a basis in reality. It's the only movie franchise that we can while away an afternoon with with our various age kids (15, 14, 9 and 7).

50sock · 17/10/2021 09:55

@CareerConcerns1999

Because they got picked up and turned into a movie. The books were low key before the movie. Movie one dropped and boom suddenly everyone wanted to read the books.

There was a long long gap between book 4 and 5, and then subsequent ones. This also creates a hype.

I don't agree, it was a huge deal when the new books were released, I can't have been the only one that went with my friends to get them at midnight the day they came out!
ThePoisonousMushroom · 17/10/2021 09:57

I don't agree, it was a huge deal when the new books were released, I can't have been the only one that went with my friends to get them at midnight the day they came out!

I sent my dad to queue up Grin

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Etinoxaurus · 17/10/2021 09:57

@RampantIvy

In some ways very bad writing

Please can you give an example of very bad writing from one of the books @Etinoxaurus.

I don't have an English literature degree, and don't remember thinking that any of them were badly written.

Some of the snobbery on this thread is breathtaking. Do these posters only read the classics?

I don’t have a book to hand but I remember speed reading one for a competition and noticing very pedestrian adjective for every noun, lots of adverbs. But I really do think the characters and world are incredibly well created. I also think that anything that gets children reading is a great thing and that she has some powerful messages about friendship, bravery family etc. Also the thread is about why HP is so popular and I don’t think any child ever sat down and became engrossed in the beautiful language or prose of a book. As @LivingDeadGirlUK and @AleynEivlys have beautifully described it’s the world she created. Definitely a big fan!
twirlinginthesnow · 17/10/2021 10:00

@secretbookcase

Because she created an entire world so vividly. The Harry Potter universe seems as complex and detailed as our own. That's her genius. She isn't the best prose writer and some (not all) of her ideas are derivative but the way she brings that world to life with its spells and games and rules and language is better than anything written for children in decades.
This is why, I agree.

She built an entire world for children (and adults!). I read them in my early 20s and I loved them too!

AleynEivlys · 17/10/2021 10:05

@Weedsorwishes Terribly cheesy I thought, but thank you. I have to admit I can't feel THAT much shame about it, as my love and respect for Potter and JKR are so intense. 😂

I posted about this really recently on another thread (the meeting a celebrity one) but for all the Potter fans here who may have missed it, I met JKR in 1998 when I was 10 and she wasn't yet the mega celeb she is now. Aside from a sense of utter wonderment, she also left me with these.

I will always be a fan.

Why did Harry Potter become so popular?
Why did Harry Potter become so popular?
RampantIvy · 17/10/2021 10:05

and noticing very pedestrian adjective for every noun, lots of adverbs

I suspect that most people who don't have an English A level or degree would notice this. I only have O level English language so it wouldn't occur to me to critique a book for its pedestrian adjectives or adverbs.

I would notice something that is extremely badly written or badly spelled though. HP is obviously not badly written enough for me to notice, or I must be rather thick Grin

LaurieFairyCake · 17/10/2021 10:14

I'm too old to have read the books as I was an adult when they came out but I've seen all the films with my children.

It's interesting as if the books are better than the films maybe I will read them too.

AleynEivlys · 17/10/2021 10:22

@whenwillthemadnessend, I will be 34 in a few days.

With regard to the Worst Witch series, I don't really agree that it is similar. Yes, it's a boarding school for magical people, but that's essentially where the resemblance ends for me. The WW stories are so soft and gentle - beautiful and well-deserving of their popularity, don't get me wrong, but they have little of the spine-tingling, gut-punching might that turned HP readers into HP fans.

I read all the Worst Witch books with my now-7-year-old recently and she absolutely loved them. I hope that when the time comes to introduce her and her sister to Harry Potter, they will find the same delight in them that I did. It's something I look forward to so much - a bit like Christmas really, and the renewed feeling of magic that comes flooding right back once you have kids to share it with.

CatWarbler · 17/10/2021 10:22

@LaurieFairyCake

I'm too old to have read the books as I was an adult when they came out but I've seen all the films with my children.

It's interesting as if the books are better than the films maybe I will read them too.

I used to steal them to read after the children had gone to bed. Way better than the films imo
sashh · 17/10/2021 10:23

@LaurieFairyCake

I'm too old to have read the books as I was an adult when they came out but I've seen all the films with my children.

It's interesting as if the books are better than the films maybe I will read them too.

I was in my 40s when I read the first one, age is no excuse.

It's one of the few book series where the characters actually grow up.

And what 11 year old wouldn't want to find out they were a wizard?

1Week · 17/10/2021 10:25

My dd was secretly half hoping for an owl message on her 12th birthday

1Week · 17/10/2021 10:25

11th, excuse me

yikesanotherbooboo · 17/10/2021 10:44

Not true that they were low key until the movies. They became popular because children really liked them and they drew children into reading.

itssquidstella · 17/10/2021 10:47

I was 12 when the first book was published, but I didn't read it until the second one had also been published (my grandad had read them and passed them on to my mum!). I then had the excitement of waiting for the publication of each subsequent book in the series. When the final book was published, I'd just finished uni; my friends and I all bought a copy on the day it came out and spent all afternoon reading at my friend's house until it was time to get ready to go clubbing 😁

As previous posters have said, growing up with books and the characters was a really magical experience, even though the spread in publication dates meant I ended up out-ageing the characters.

Deadringer · 17/10/2021 11:00

The fact that they appealed to boys as well as girls, and adults is one of the reasons they were so successful, also they are fantasy but also enjoyed by non fantasy fans. I can't think of any other series of books that had such widespread appeal.

PolkadotsAndMoonbeams · 17/10/2021 11:04

@LaurieFairyCake

I'm too old to have read the books as I was an adult when they came out but I've seen all the films with my children.

It's interesting as if the books are better than the films maybe I will read them too.

The books are much funnier than the films.
luckylavender · 17/10/2021 11:16

@CareerConcerns1999 - that's not true at all. The books were already massively popular before the films. Four of the books were already published by the time of the first film release in 2001. When The Goblet of Fire was released on July 8th 2000, it was done simultaneously in the U.K. and US. Bookstores were opened at midnight and there were massive queues.

youvegottenminuteslynn · 17/10/2021 11:32

As a HP superfan I really unreasonably want @CareerConcerns1999 to come back and say they didn't realise the books were anything but 'low key' before the movies - they were an absolute phenomenon well before! That is 11 year old me speaking though and being a real Hermione about facts and evidence being paramount even if it means I'm being annoying Grin

RufustheBadgeringReindeer · 17/10/2021 11:35

@1Week

My dd was secretly half hoping for an owl message on her 12th birthday
My dd still goes on about her missing letter

She wasnt happy when she didnt get one for her college years

She’s even more annoyed that i didnt let her audition for the films

Even though SHE WASNT EVEN BORN THEN….apparently the appalling timing is my fault

Taytocrisps · 17/10/2021 11:36

I was an adult when the Harry Potter books came out. I was aware of the hype but, for some reason, it never occurred to me to read any of them. Anyway, I was babysitting my nephew one night (I was staying over) and had forgotten to bring a book with me. The Harry Potter books were sitting on my nephew's bookshelf so I picked up the first one and got stuck in. I was instantly hooked and went out and bought a set of the first three books. I subsequently bought the next three as individual books and bought the last one on the day it was released. I loved the first four books but not so much the last three which are much darker. Also, Order of the Phoenix is way too long.

I loved them because, as previous posters said, they really do have everything in them. A mistreated orphan, a boarding school (very familiar fiction to me as I grew up with the Malory Towers, St. Clare's and Chalet School books), an incredibly colourful magical world that somehow co-exists with the more mundane muggle world and a truly evil character hell bent on world domination. And so many themes - friendship, family (or lack of ), good vs. evil, loss/bereavement. Also, so many vividly drawn characters - major and minor. The three main characters experience lots of adventures and we bond with the characters as we go through those adventures with them. They also transform from children into adults in the process, so we are witness to that transformation. There's a lot of humour in the books too. For example, Neville encountering a boggart in the form of Snape and picturing him in his grandmother's clothes. Or Ron's attempt at asking Fleur to the ball, knowing he was out of his depth.

My teenage DD isn't a big reader, despite my best efforts. She watched the movies one Christmas and went on to read the books. She's a major HP fan (but perhaps inspired more by the movies than the books) and we would have endless discussions about the characters and the plots. One day I was exasperated by the endless questions and discussions and said, "You do know it's not real, you know". DD said very quietly, "Yes, but I like to think it is". And I felt like the worst mother in the world Sad. Anyway, I think her response encapsulated the appeal of the books. Who wouldn't want to receive an invitation to a magical boarding school (delivered by an owl, no less) where they can learn how to become wizards and fly on broomsticks and encounter all kinds of magical creatures and have all sorts of exciting adventures?

HettySunshine · 17/10/2021 11:40

I find the fact that the words 'Harry, Ron and Hermione' appear about 47 million times quite jarring. Even when 'they' and 'them' could be used.

It's a small thing but once I noticed it I could never not notice it, if you see what I mean?!

DockOTheBay · 17/10/2021 11:50

For me, it was a book which was age appropriate and reading level appropriate.
I read book 1 at age 8 - I was a great reader but books which were suitable for me reading level, weren't suitable for my age. Harry Potter was just right for both.

Also I was lucky to grow up and be about the same age as the characters throughout. I think book 7 came out when I was about 16. I used to look forward to the next book release and the wait definitely added to the hype.
I don't known why children now are so into it as there is much more choice and they wouldn't have the "grow up with it" connection. But I guess it's already popular now so it just stays that way

Taytocrisps · 17/10/2021 11:55

@AleynEivlys

Because the stories are brilliant. Perhaps people who were already adults with plenty of literary experience when the first book came out are less likely to agree, but if you were a child, well ...!

Those who lived it will know what I mean.

I think there were many books I had really enjoyed during the first 9 years of my life, but when I was gifted a paperback copy of Philosopher's Stone, I found something inside it that I hadn't ever experienced before. I don't have the perfect word for what that was, and I'm cringing at the thought of writing this next bit, but the best way I can describe it is as if magic was happening inside my head - like my imagination was firing off in all directions and I could picture every single scene with absolute clarity. In fact, I believed in Hogwarts so completely that even after I turned 11, I had a secret hope that my letter would arrive by owl and I wouldn't have to go to the boring Muggle secondary school I had been signed up for.

Thankfully, I grew out of that, but I've never grown out of Potter. He grew up with me. And I revisit him maybe once or twice a year, and I never get tired of it, because for some reason I can still feel the magic even now.

No other book or series of books - even those I have really, really loved - has ever managed to leave quite the same impression.

@AleynEivlys what a lovely post and no need to cringe. And now I think it's time for a re-read.
HowardNoir · 17/10/2021 12:26

@NeonTetras Non-transphobes disagree.