Prince Andrew no surprise

[Pixxie7]

No surprise that the met have stopped. Their investigation into PA.

@julieca maybe because he is her son and also maybe she believes him , she is entitled to that until proven guilty in a court of law.
As others have said , to present this has gone as far as the ket could take with the evidence currently
Like it not he has a right of innocent until proven guilty in eyes of the law, we can all think what we like or course and have an opinion but that doesn't change the Law and we are not his mother

What ever the truth is he should man up stop hiding and the queen should stop protecting him. If he is innocent why doesn’t he just face his accusers and get the situation resolved.

queen I have read in more than one place that at the time the age of consent was not 17
This graph shows that in 1999 it was 17,
The only time it was 18 was in 1920.

@Pixxie7 how do you prove your innocent as well when its one word against the other
Unless times and places are mentioned and he can prove he wasn't there 20 years ago etc
Older cases are often hard to prove either way
Theres no way the RF will let him talk after his last interview , he will remain in the background and when charles takes over be pushed even further back
Only way it will change is of charges are made , but if he was found innocent would many on here accept that

the RF will just wait till they hope the plebs forget then he’ll be back. I doubt it very much. His goose is cooked.

I think the American lawyers must have quiet a lot of evidence to even contemplate going after the royal family.

In Scotland you can marry without parental consent at sixteen. You can also vote for MSPs at 16. We're clearly heathens and should hang our heads in shame.

i think it's fine to marry and vote at 16. I think it's odd to be able to marry at 16 but you can't vote until 2 years later.

queen I have read US media and it says different.

No way will PA be able to show his face again. BUT he will still live a life of complete and utter luxury. Whether he will remain discreet is another matter. His ex Sarah who lives with him is not very good at discreet.

Has Sarah Ferguson done the TV show 'Loose Women' yet?

@Pixxie7 why if they have that much evidence did the police not follow up ? Also last i read it may not even be able to happen and that will be on lawyers not doing there jobs properly

Rousette maybe you can link to something to prove what you are saying ? ? Because I’ve searched extensively , nothing says it was more than 17 in 2001.

Has Sarah Ferguson done the TV show 'Loose Women' yet?

Yes, she was in the grounds of Royal Lodge, Windsor, promoting her Mills and Boon book dressed as a velvet clothed red headed heroine.
Now that was embarrassing!

queen I've just looked earlier and it said so in Florida. Where Mar A Lago was. You can google too.

Rousette you said in NY here: *
How many times do we have to repeat the same thing. In NY she was not over the age of consent and the fact PA may have had sex with her in places other than NY, is irrelevant. And she was trafficked.
No mention in your post about Florida,
You said she was under the age of consent in NY ,

@Pixxie7

What ever the truth is he should man up stop hiding and the queen should stop protecting him. If he is innocent why doesn’t he just face his accusers and get the situation resolved.

He has said he will talk to the American police he just isn't going over there America didn't even want to talk to him about HIS alleged offences just epstien offences and they can talk to many former presidents living in there country they don't need him

You said she was under the age of consent in NY

Yes, she was trafficked which makes age of consent irrelevant anyway And I read somewhere on more than one occasion that in NY at the time it was below the age of consent

@Roussette

Has Sarah Ferguson done the TV show 'Loose Women' yet?

Yes, she was in the grounds of Royal Lodge, Windsor, promoting her Mills and Boon book dressed as a velvet clothed red headed heroine.
Now that was embarrassing!

queen I've just looked earlier and it said so in Florida. Where Mar A Lago was. You can google too.

Giuffre alleges encounters in London, New York and on Epstein's private island. She does not allege an encounter with Andrew in Mar-a-Lago. She worked at Donald Trump's Mar-a-Lago club which is where she met Maxwell who, she alleges, offered her a job with Epstein.

The age of consent in New York has been 17 since at least 1993 according to an article in the NY Times.

Is Giuffre's civil suit against Andrew public? I mean, the actual contents?

@Roussette

You said she was under the age of consent in NY

Yes, she was trafficked which makes age of consent irrelevant anyway And I read somewhere on more than one occasion that in NY at the time it was below the age of consent

Any source that said that was wrong. And trafficking does not make the age of consent irrelevant despite your repeated assertions.

In the UK, having consensual sex with a woman who has been trafficked and is over the age of consent is not an offence unless you pay or promise to pay for it.

I don't know specifically about New York but there does not appear to be any federal law banning people from having sex with someone who has been trafficked. I can, however, say with confidence that it was not a crime to have sex with someone who had been trafficked in New York at the relevant time since the first states to introduce specific laws on trafficking were Washington and Texas in 2003. The USA, like the UK, does not criminalise people retrospectively.

@SpindleWhirl

Is Giuffre's civil suit against Andrew public? I mean, the actual contents?

Yes - www.courthousenews.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/Prince-Phillip-sexual-assault-lawsuit.pdf

@prh47bridge

I've read different. As you can state with confidence, perhaps you can link a source.

I will look at mine when I'm not on a phone

Which bit?

The age of consent being 17 in New York in 1993 can be found in www.nytimes.com/1993/04/18/weekinreview/the-law-that-made-amy-fisher-a-victim.html

The fact Giuffre has not alleged any encounter in Mar-a-Lago can be seen in her suit to which I linked above. The fact she worked there and met Maxwell there is recorded in her Wikipedia entry.

UK laws concerning trafficking and sexual offences can be found at www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2003/42/contents (see especially S53A which is the provision making it illegal to pay for sex with someone who has been trafficked, although that may not be immediately obvious to the lay person) and www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2012/9/contents

The fact that there were no state laws specifically against trafficking before 2003 can be found at en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_trafficking_in_the_United_States. This article also covers the current state of federal laws regarding trafficking.

Yes - www.courthousenews.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/Prince-Phillip-sexual-assault-lawsuit.pdf

Hmmm, they want to change the name in that PDF link….

@SecretKeeper1

*Yes - www.courthousenews.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/Prince-Phillip-sexual-assault-lawsuit.pdf*

Hmmm, they want to change the name in that PDF link….

Don't they just?

I thought it was a fake.

UK laws on trafficking also include www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2015/30/contents

And yes, I know the trafficking section of the Sexual Offences Act has been repealed but S53A remains relevant.

Well done for all your googling, good job done