So what exactly are 'we' going to do about our misogynist Prime Minister?

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Not that I expected anything different.
Howww.theguardian.com/politics/2021/oct/06/tottymeter-and-girly-swots-how-johnson-shows-women-respectwever this summary of his misogynist statements over the last couple of years is worth reading, I feel.

Why is he still in power? And which ones of your made the mistake of voting for him? (I didn't)

@Gilead

Those of you voting Tory because they ‘stand up for women’ which women in particular? It’s not single parents, or abused women, or disabled women, or poor women. You have a bee in your bonnet about self identification and are willing to sell the poor and disabled up the river for it. Shame on you.

Am disabled and abused and poor. Was in refuge and would've been terrified if mixed sex. Don't trust anyone or either party but Labour not better for disabled as they were bad last time they was in.

They alll let you down. Not just politicians.

He is a tool, his current wife is also pretty daft.
But how exactly is any of the opposition better?

At least the cabinet has senior members with some concept that sex matters.

We don't live in a presidential system.

At this point, it’s which misogyny is the least worst and that’s Tory. Yes Boris is a dick but at least he knows what women are.

He sure does. And he has not shown himself to be an ally of women. Not in thoughts or deeds or private or public life. BJ knows what women are: lower down, occasionally useful and disposable.

Oh and he will dump women in an instant if he thinks there's votes, money or even just a laugh and a round of applause in it.

@Gingerkittykat

That article was painful to read.

The answer is we, as a country, will do nothing about Boris. If he can get away with comments about letting bodies pile high during the early days of Covid then he will get away with anything.

Sadly, I think you’re right. He can shit, and does, over your parents, and people still vote for him as he’s such an eccentric and quintessentially funny Brit. 🥺

@Gilead

Those of you voting Tory because they ‘stand up for women’ which women in particular? It’s not single parents, or abused women, or disabled women, or poor women. You have a bee in your bonnet about self identification and are willing to sell the poor and disabled up the river for it. Shame on you.

Well said. It’s an obsession on MN.

@Ionlydomassiveones

At this point, it’s which misogyny is the least worst and that’s Tory. Yes Boris is a dick but at least he knows what women are.

If things carry on the way they’re going - we’ll be nostalgic about the days blokes called us ‘totty’ and ‘birds’ because nothing is more dehumanising than ‘bodies with vaginas’ and ‘cervix havers’…. actually I’m even nostalgic about that last one because Labour say we can’t even claim cervixes now.

It’s just dystopian and I’m pathetically grateful to any party that isn’t actively trying to erase women and treat us with utter shitty distain aka Labour aka David Lammy aka Kier Starner.

This. ⬆️ all of this.

I will never vote for a party in favour of self id. Never.

You have a bee in your bonnet about self identification and are willing to sell the poor and disabled up the river for it. Shame on you

Poor women and disabled women have the most to lose from self id. They are the most vulnerable and more likely to suffer the consequences of men identifying into women's spaces for nefarious intent. That's why wealthy women can parrot TWAW and collect woke points. They're never going to be in the position of being trapped in a prison cell with a male, or forced to accept intimate care from a male, or be in a mental hospital ward with a man.

Women lose everything with self id. Damn right I've got a bee in my bonnet about it.

How patronising to speak for all poor and disabled women and their opinions on trans issues and that trans people have nefarious intent.

And here we go, another thread taken over by the single-idea posters.

@LadyWithLapdog

How patronising to speak for all poor and disabled women and their opinions on trans issues and that trans people have nefarious intent.

And here we go, another thread taken over by the single-idea posters.

Where did I say I was speaking for all poor and disabled women? Make up your mind, you either want people to care about poverty and inequality or you don't.

@LadyWithLapdog

How patronising to speak for all poor and disabled women and their opinions on trans issues and that trans people have nefarious intent.

And here we go, another thread taken over by the single-idea posters.

And if you read my post I actually said "men identifying into women's spaces for nefarious intent". Men, not trans people. Interesting how you conflated the two 🤔

It is interesting rhymes

A question was asked and people are answering

The fact that some of the answers are about one thing in particular is hardly the fault of those answering

Yet self identified GC feminists on this board said they would vote for him.shock And feminist posters on this thread have said that they voted for and support BJ because of his silence on the issue

I think most have said they would vote tory

Unlike many other threads I can’t see many (any?) ‘yay boris’ posts

I am elderly - I have lived through the 60s 70s and beyond - I had a decent job. But I was once turned down for a pay rise because ( according to a mole ) she ( I) is married - she doesn't need the money. Well I am still old enough / young enough to remember when women did not have their rights. So - having to identify as a cervix owner - No Thank You - I am in favour of anyone living how they will and feel is best for them but my personal line in the sand ( and it may not be other' s ) is self identification .

I do understand that there are many other things which women have to deal with - but just this time I think this is the thin end of the wedge. & If men can ( By simply saying ) they are women - then No - I am not voting for that. Whatever - call me a twit if you wish to but women have been standing up for their rights for decades - let's not stop now. 51% of the population - I am not sure that is really a single issue thing. So I never thought I would be thought of as a speaking up feminist & I would loved to see policies which help single mothers etc - and those I would vote ob - but have not seen from wither party - so thus far (and only thus far ) I will vote against self identification

I do recognise there are other issues I really do & I always vote on those on the day - but this one is big for me & if Keir Starmer introduced a whole load of policies to help women - well - yes that would be great ( but has he ? ) Paying people 80 % of their salaries for a long time must have helped families.

I think to fixate on one politician is pointless - he'll be gone soon enough. I just wish Keir Starmer was better. & yes other parties but the brutal reality is that we have essentially a 2 party system - now a coalition might work this time round with a small party.

Not a lot. When folk like Angela Raynor are waiting in the wings eyeing up their chances.

@BasiliskStare very, very well put.

@TooBigForMyBoots

They're voting for him as he's not Labour.

I am tired of seeing this. Voting is not compulsory. UK ballot papers gave a list of candidates to choose from, not just 2. People left their homes on a winter night and voted for BJ's Tory Party because they wanted to.🤷‍♀️

It's no one else's fault.

THIS 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

Absolutely sick of reading why it’s Labour’s fault that we have got this STD of a human as our Prime Minister. Feels like an easy get out for people who now regret their decision.

@Viviennemary so a few choice words off AR and you can't vote Labour
But Johnson's government -dishonest, lying, cronyism, fiscally inept, you'll tolerate
Give over. Tribal voting at its worst....

@BasiliskStare we heading towards a one party state sadly. No one will vote for labour because they are worse. Apparently. Japan has had essentially the same party in power for 4 decades. We getting like that only our equivalent is far more incompetent.

Sod the economy, the children, the poor, the disabled, the middle classes, the elderly in care homes; it’s about using the right wording that validates our one issue campaign.

@Thekolschisonme Truly hope that is not the case - because I always want alternatives. I do not think we will go down the same route as Japan - because I think there are differences in our population ( I have relatives in Japan but not an expert , obviously )

I am old and sometimes a government gets old and stale . Which is not to say the incoming government is better - they are just fresher and newer & all up for it - But I do want to understand what their priorities are ( whichever party - this is not a one party point )

@LadyWithLapdog

Sod the economy, the children, the poor, the disabled, the middle classes, the elderly in care homes; it’s about using the right wording that validates our one issue campaign.

Why don't you stop slagging of people who disagree with you politically and engage with the argument. Convince me why self id isn't a danger to women - especially disabled women and elderly women in care home.

Convince me why ignoring things that have already happened isn’t more important ? Cuts to benefits, the unholy mess that is UC, austerity, loss of legal aid, union rights. All affect poor W/c women. But labour is worse.