So what exactly are 'we' going to do about our misogynist Prime Minister?

[beigebrownblue]

Not that I expected anything different.
Howww.theguardian.com/politics/2021/oct/06/tottymeter-and-girly-swots-how-johnson-shows-women-respectwever this summary of his misogynist statements over the last couple of years is worth reading, I feel.

Why is he still in power? And which ones of your made the mistake of voting for him? (I didn't)

@beigebrownblue - fair point & fair play

@beigebrownblue - Unashamedly I will give you that - I am not anti Labour or anti Tory - some things resonate with me and pleased you pointed that out.

[quote Thekolschisonme]@WhoWearsShortShorts don't you think that smearing all labour supporters as misogynistic is somewhat wearing too ? Tories are not standing up for women at all, they are tactically keeping quiet whilst labour admittedly shoot themselves in the foot.
Funny how you never hear a tory voter discuss the fact that our government is truly corrupt and has passed legislation that really does negatively impact womens' lives. Labour isn't actually in power.[/quote]
I have no idea why you're acting like I said those things

I find it very surprising that people think the Conservatives are pro women’s rights. They’re philosophy is to shrink the state. That affects the most vulnerable in society, which disproportionately affects women. They’ve shut children’s centres, cut benefits (I know women in abusive relationships that are staying because they know the benefit system will put them in poverty), and they are making it pretty clear at the moment that they intend to do nothing about the misogyny in the police force.

The only thing that they are doing at the moment is not being brainwashed into dismissing women’s rights. Nothing pro women’s rights.

I have no idea who I can vote for, but I know that I’m not voting Tory.

@Autumngoldleaf

Because kier and Labour show women so much more respect...

It all goes deeper than these people we just need more good people in politics over all, we need to attract them in.

You can vote for someone other than labour you know. It doesnt have to be Tory or labour

Samcro

“People will keep voting for him cos he is so funny“

What??!

Funny as toothache.

@Blessex

David Lammy called us dinosaurs

Wokey is evil

What do you have against people who dont agree with racism and bigotry? Are you in favour of racism and bigotry? Or do you just use 'I call it as I see it' justification for racism and bigotry?

The Tory dont even know what misogony is and yet you think they believe in womens rights? Would love you to sqaure that circle for me

The GC cohort on MN seem to use the same nonsense that the anti lgbtq+ used back in the day, all about the 'trans agenda', 'trans recruitment', bathrooms and wont you think of the children.

@JustAnotherPoster00 wokery is evil. Empty, vacuous virtue signalling with no thought for the consequences for minority groups.

Being anti-woke is not the same as being a bigot.

Lol. Virtue signalling. Woke. I switch off as soon as I hear those terms.
Fact is that the tories have already implemented policies that hurt women and their families. Labour haven’t.

@Thekolschisonme

Lol. Virtue signalling. Woke. I switch off as soon as I hear those terms. Fact is that the tories have already implemented policies that hurt women and their families. Labour haven’t.

Labour haven't been in power since 2010. Their recent legislative record is nil.

They are the only major political party in the UK to never have a female leader.

They have renewed they pledge to bring in self-id.

They allow trans identifying men to stand for women-only seats and act as women's officers.

Unions, an intricate part of Labour, have consistently failed to support women who are critical of gender ideology.

Woke = bad for women.

@JustAnotherPoster00 Sorry I am a bit lost with what you are asking. David Lammy called women who are trying to protect women’s spaces ‘dinosaurs’. You think that’s ok then jog on. I don’t.

As much as i like dinosaurs, politicians shouldn’t resort to name calling

Our choice is Wokey vs Blokey. Blokey is easy to dismantle. Wokey is evil, insidious, dangerous and slippery.

Blokey is easy to dismantle? If it was easy, we wouldn't have the misogynistic society we live in now. We'd have defeated it decades ago.🙄 Misogyny is evil, insidious, dangerous and slippery and very present in our current government and institutions.

Gender critical does not mean feminist or even best for women. FFS, the Taliban are fucking gender critical. So was Donald Trump. If you think GC powerful men are feminist allies, you've been had.

@TooBigForMyBoots

Our choice is Wokey vs Blokey. Blokey is easy to dismantle. Wokey is evil, insidious, dangerous and slippery.

Blokey is easy to dismantle? If it was easy, we wouldn't have the misogynistic society we live in now. We'd have defeated it decades ago.🙄 Misogyny is evil, insidious, dangerous and slippery and very present in our current government and institutions.

Gender critical does not mean feminist or even best for women. FFS, the Taliban are fucking gender critical. So was Donald Trump. If you think GC powerful men are feminist allies, you've been had.

Erm, the Taliban & Donald Trump are very definitely NOT GC, I don't think you understand what GC means if you believe that.

The clue's in the name - gender CRITICAL. The Taliban totally believe in gender & enforce gender roles ruthlessly based on a person's sex, the very opposite of GC.

The Taliban totally believe in gender & enforce gender roles ruthlessly based on a person's sex, the very opposite of GC

Thats what i thought…

Apologies, I have misused GC here. What I meant was men who say they will "protect" women's spaces.

My point about Blokey vs Wokey still stands.

Oh I don't think GC feminists think the likes of Trump etc are in any way feminist allies. But personally, I believe that if self ID of sex is brought in and we lose same-sex spaces as they are made mixed sex, we will have even more of a fight to reverse those changes. No party will want to be the one that removes GRCs from people who obtained them by self ID and cost will be used as an excuse not to return mixed sex facilities to same sex ones. For me, this is the most important feminist issue at the moment - how can we ensure that policies address the inequalities that women & girls face if the state cannot adequately define what a woman or a girl is?

This is going to sound awful, but there’s not much we can do except wait for his main voting base to no longer be with us.

He has an almost cult-like following among certain demographics, there’s really nothing that can be said to stop them voting for him.

I just hope a viable alternative (NOT Labour) presents itself in the meantime.

Tories will state what a woman is but slash funding from organisations that support women and other vulnerable groups.

Labour will eliminate the ability of women to define ourselves as a sex class. Permanently.

Lib Democrats will prioritise individual men's sexual rights over any ability to say 'this affects all women'.

Greens will promote science as long as it doesn't make men uncomfortable.

For fuck's sake.

Oh I don't think GC feminists think the likes of Trump etc are in any way feminist allies.

Yet self identified GC feminists on this board said they would vote for him. And feminist posters on this thread have said that they voted for and support BJ because of his silence on the issue.

I get that men identifying as women is the biggest issue for some feminists and I am grateful to them for all the awareness building they have done wrt to the threat to women from pending legislation.

My focus is poverty, health and male violence. These are the things that negatively impact the women that I know. These are the things that have always negatively impacted women and children.

No one on this board has said they would vote for Trump, feminist or not.

My focus is poverty, health and male violence. These are the things that negatively impact the women that I know. These are the things that have always negatively impacted women and children.

And how will a Government even begin to tackle male violence without an accurate definition of who is male? How much will women benefit from increased funding for DV refuges if none are women only? How many more women and girls will suffer male violence if we lose single sex provision on hospital wards? In psychiatric units? In prisons? Single sex provision is fundamental in order to provide refuge to women from male violence.

Those of you voting Tory because they ‘stand up for women’ which women in particular? It’s not single parents, or abused women, or disabled women, or poor women. You have a bee in your bonnet about self identification and are willing to sell the poor and disabled up the river for it. Shame on you.

@Autumngoldleaf

Because kier and Labour show women so much more respect...

It all goes deeper than these people we just need more good people in politics over all, we need to attract them in.

Agreed, If we accept that Labour is still the main alternative, then their record on the subject of misogyny is hardly anything to write home about.

@Gilead

Those of you voting Tory because they ‘stand up for women’ which women in particular? It’s not single parents, or abused women, or disabled women, or poor women. You have a bee in your bonnet about self identification and are willing to sell the poor and disabled up the river for it. Shame on you.

The Tories might not stand up for those categories of women but, by being stuck in opposition purely because it cannot get its act together, Labour is doing sweet FA to stand up for them either.