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Policeman kicks 15 year old girl in the stomach

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GreekTragedy · 01/10/2021 09:58

I couldn't see a thread about this so thought I'd start one.

I am completely shocked at this video.

This "officer" came out of nowhere and did a flying kick to a young girl!!

Now I can understand police getting a it violent in the heat of the moment but this? This is outright disgusting.

That officer should be charged.

What the fuck has happened to our police force??

www.aol.co.uk/news/cop-fly-kicks-15-old-123400054.html

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RufustheBadgeringReindeer · 01/10/2021 20:15

@mbosnz

Thank you for taking that in the spirit it was intended. I am not 'FTP'. I have family members in the police. One of them, I once would have sworn was one of the good guys. The other one, I'm still prepared to swear is one of the good guys.

This situation is toxic, both for the police, and the public. This house needs a serious deep clean.

Exactly

My family member keeps getting commendations, works with prostitutes and young people on the street etc

But as you say the house needs a deep clean

Iheartbaby · 01/10/2021 20:21

@GiddyNorthernBird

Oh and I reported your vile post *Iheartbaby’ as I’m sure others have too. You disgust me.
What is vile about it. I am entitled to my correct opinion :)
RufustheBadgeringReindeer · 01/10/2021 20:27

I think your post was deleted iheartbaby

LilyMumsnet · 01/10/2021 20:27

Hi all

We just wanted to pop in to say we are aware that this is a really emotive topic, but please do bear our talk guidelines in mind when posting.

RIPIgglePiggle · 01/10/2021 20:35

[quote ohfourfoxache]@RIPIgglePiggle I’ve got a theory and I’d really appreciate your thoughts on it if you don’t mind

The police, like so many else in the public sector, have been treated like shit over the years. Not enough funding, not enough support, too much work. My theory is that the vast majority who are good at their jobs are leaving, so the concentration of “bad apples” - those who want power, or those who have managed to find a slightly cushy position, or those who couldn’t find a job anywhere else - is actually increasing

Therefore the reputation of the organisation spirals downwards, which leads to more good people leaving

It might be naivety but I can’t remember ever being scared of the police as a kid. But that might be white privilege.

What do you think? Could there be any truth in this?[/quote]
I think it’s more simple than that. I think it’s the availability of information now. Everyone is walking around with a camera in their pockets and they can film you and there is nothing you can do about it.

There’s probably always been wronguns. Only now you can film them and have it online straight away. Within hours it can be national news with millions viewing it.

And whilst I don’t mean this specific video sometimes things are taken out of context. I remember running down the street and jumping on a 12 year old boy. It would have looked awful if you’d filmed it. But he had jumped out of an upstairs window after threatening a family member with a weapon. We never hear about the context afterwards though, you just remember that clip.

There’s less deference to the establishment too, people are more willing to challenge and quite rightly. We should be doing a good job and we should be doing better in many areas. Yes cuts are a huge issue but they’re not the whole story.

There’s loads of specific issues but what joins them on violence towards women is that like the rest of society our attitude needs to change. Violence against women should be at the centre of our priorities. Not just lip service. That covers the not-rights in the police who hurt women and also the not-rights who are doing a rubbish job and letting them down as victims of crime. I could get on my soap box about what we can do better all day. But with recent issues in mind it’s our attitude about the place of women and girls in society that underpins many of the changes we need to make.

Iheartbaby · 01/10/2021 20:45

Why was my post deleted, I didn’t say anything that other people haven’t said in this thread. Cancel culture at its best again.

RufustheBadgeringReindeer · 01/10/2021 20:46

@Iheartbaby

Why was my post deleted, I didn’t say anything that other people haven’t said in this thread. Cancel culture at its best again.
You could always ask mumsnet…..i didnt see your post so ive no idea
ohfourfoxache · 01/10/2021 20:48

@RIPIgglePiggle so let’s say that you’re genuinely not a wrongun, and you go about your job as a copper and someone films something that you do in accordance with your training, like tackling the 12 year old for example. How do you as an individual cope with the backlash from something like that being made available to the public, where it looks bad but in fact it was entirely reasonable? Do you think it’s had any bearing on people leaving the job?

(I’m not saying that the copper who kicked the girl is in this category btw, I think you know well enough by now what I think of him!)

ohfourfoxache · 01/10/2021 20:49

@Iheartbaby if you don’t understand how disgusting your post was then it’s time to walk away and take a good long look at yourself

HTH

Leibham · 01/10/2021 20:51

@ohfourfoxache

Devils advocate??

People aren’t idiots, they can see what is right and wrong.

JasonMomoasgirlfriend · 01/10/2021 20:52

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GiddyNorthernBird · 01/10/2021 20:52

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Message deleted by MNHQ. Here's a link to our Talk guidelines.

Leibham · 01/10/2021 20:54

@JasonMomoasgirlfriend

She’s allowed to say she’s disgusted. Apologist

ohfourfoxache · 01/10/2021 20:57

@Leibham sometimes we get a snapshot. I work with some pretty horrendous reports for a living, and sometimes they come through and I just think WTAF have they done? But then when I get to investigate things become clearer and I realise that things aren’t quite what they seem

I AM NOT saying that there is any excuse for this copper’s actions - they were dangerous, unreasonable and unprofessional. But sometimes if a tiny snapshot was filmed without context then it’s easy to get the wrong end of the stick

Leibham · 01/10/2021 20:57

This post should carry a TW with some of the comments condoning violence from a man to a child.

RIPIgglePiggle · 01/10/2021 20:58

[quote ohfourfoxache]@RIPIgglePiggle so let’s say that you’re genuinely not a wrongun, and you go about your job as a copper and someone films something that you do in accordance with your training, like tackling the 12 year old for example. How do you as an individual cope with the backlash from something like that being made available to the public, where it looks bad but in fact it was entirely reasonable? Do you think it’s had any bearing on people leaving the job?

(I’m not saying that the copper who kicked the girl is in this category btw, I think you know well enough by now what I think of him!)[/quote]
I work in an inner city area where everyone hates the police and did before it was fashionable Grin (that’s lighthearted by the way). I’ve got a skin like an old walrus. You have to in this job. You’ve got to know why you are doing it and try and let it bounce off you.

It does get to you though. It’s crap at the moment because you feel like you have to defend yourself and your colleagues whilst still trying to be open to our failings and where we can do better.

But lots of things about this job get to you. I’ve worked in child protection for a long time and there been many days I wish I could pour a bottle of bleach in my eyes and unsee what I’ve just seen. People leave for all sorts of reasons it’s a dangerous and depressing job and doesn’t always work well with family life.

So yes in summary walrus skin!

JasonMomoasgirlfriend · 01/10/2021 20:58

[quote Leibham]@JasonMomoasgirlfriend

She’s allowed to say she’s disgusted. Apologist[/quote]
Oh I was reporting it because it's against talk guidelines actually.

Leibham · 01/10/2021 20:58

@ohfourfoxache

I understand, and I understand children may need to be restrained properly. Usually if there were an outcry over it, the police would have a chance to explain it.

Iheartbaby · 01/10/2021 20:59

But why was it disgusting, I just said I agree with what happened and I would be very disappointed if my 15 year old acted like the that and I would expect her to face the consequences like these girls did.

Leibham · 01/10/2021 21:00

@JasonMomoasgirlfriend

You clearly haven’t seen many worse comments then. Why do you need to reported someone saying they’re disgusted by a deleted comment? Clearly there’s a reason why.

“That was uncalled for” oh just jog on.

RufustheBadgeringReindeer · 01/10/2021 21:01

Oh I was reporting it because it's against talk guidelines actually

How is someone saying they are disgusted against talk guidelines?

Or did they not say that? Did they say it a different way

Leibham · 01/10/2021 21:01

@Iheartbaby

God forbid you ever have children, I can imagine what punishments you’d find acceptable.

JasonMomoasgirlfriend · 01/10/2021 21:03

Oh look. MNHQ agreed because they've deleted the posters comment. So sit down.

JasonMomoasgirlfriend · 01/10/2021 21:05

@RufustheBadgeringReindeer they didn't say "im disgusted" they said it in a different way which changes it and since the post has been deleted I'm not repeating it.

RufustheBadgeringReindeer · 01/10/2021 21:05

@JasonMomoasgirlfriend

Oh look. MNHQ agreed because they've deleted the posters comment. So sit down.
Yes but why did YOU think it broke talk guidelines

Did they just say they were disgusted or did they say someone is disgusting?