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Previously undecided voters would you vote for Starmer's Labour now?

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VinylQueen · 30/09/2021 10:06

Are there any previously Tory voters or undecided voters who would now consider voting Labour in a GE based on Kier Starmer's speech and him taking on the far left of the party?

I vote Labour anyway but I'm interested if any of his speech "cut through" as they say. To my eyes the main heckler just came across like a complete loony and made Kier Starmer's stance look even more sensible.

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Whatstheweatherlike · 30/09/2021 17:28

Not that you'd vote for them but by denying Labour your vote then you'd be getting them elected for sure.

This makes me so angry - I'm not going to cave into some sort of emotional blackmail. I refuse to vote for a party that doesn't recognise what a woman is. You might think women like me should simply put up and shut up, but I won't. I've had enough of being dismissed and patronised.

trumpisagit · 30/09/2021 17:37

I have left the Liberal Democrats.
Labour are a mysogynistic mess.
I am keeping an eye on the Greens.

Nat6999 · 30/09/2021 17:37

Yes, I have a lovely hard working Labour MP who always goes the extra mile for her constituents.

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AssignedNorthern · 30/09/2021 17:38

Not a chance will Labour get my vote

BlowDryRat · 30/09/2021 17:40

Not until he stands up for women and girls and our biological reality.

FatAnkles · 30/09/2021 17:52

No way. I'm politically homeless.

P0ntiacBandit · 30/09/2021 17:56

Sorry No. Unless Blair/Brown type of Labour is fully back there's no voting for the party. I have to grudgingly vote for LibDem. This whole political scene is a shitshow.

PenguindreamsofDraco · 30/09/2021 18:01

Christ no. Call me a rights-hoarding dinosaur if you like, but I think my cervix would jump out and rip the pencil from my hand before I could.

Violetparis · 30/09/2021 18:02

Have always voted Labour, used to be a member, feel torn that I just don't know if I could bring myself to vote for them now. I'll never vote Tory but could vote Green if Ali is elected leader. Like others have said it's the women's rights issues and the total shut down and abuse of anyone who raises concerns.

LimpLettice · 30/09/2021 18:03

Not a chance. Lifelong Labour voter who literally can't. I've joined the Greens to vote for Shahrar as leader, otherwise I'm homeless.

Keir, I really hope you or whoever monitors Mumsnet for you reads this. Ordinary women, not some sort of evil shrews, not crazed American right wing fundamentalists, just UK mums and other women, standing up for our children's health, our spaces, our refuges. We haven't all somehow run mad on bile, and you know it. Knowing that female biology is distinct and matters is not now, or ever, bigotry. We needed Labour and you have let us down.

MaenadsJustWannaHaveFun · 30/09/2021 18:06

He's a bellend.

I felt a hamster could have written his speech.

I can't vote for anyone as things stand.

Autumngoldleaf · 30/09/2021 18:09

I'm a swing voter.
I'm definitely more impressed with starmers Labour gov but I'm terrified of the likes of corbyn and raynor.

After a few years if he can further shape the party and become far more moderate and reasonable I might vote for them.

DismantledKing · 30/09/2021 18:10

I’m an actual member of the Labour Party, and I wouldn’t vote for them at the moment.

Autumngoldleaf · 30/09/2021 18:11

Oh gosh I'd momentarily forgotten about the women right issue

NameChangeinHaste · 30/09/2021 18:14

No. I lean left, but am in a safe Blue seat, so tempted to spoil my ballot people by explaining basic biology. Wouldn’t take up much space, would not affect the outcome of the vote. But I like the fact the labour candidate will be shown the spoilt paper and will nanowire why they have not got my vote!

CantStandMeow · 30/09/2021 18:14

Nope. Politically homeless here too.

Autumngoldleaf · 30/09/2021 18:15

jewel

Imagine if their focus groups ever came to mn!!
Imagine!.
They don't seem to listen at all.. I've never witnessed a more stubborn party that's shat on it s base I really havant. Very navel gazzing, arrogant etc..

Noshowlomo · 30/09/2021 18:17

No, and no women should vote for them. They might get a few “cervix havers” votes but they won’t be having mine

PronounssheRa · 30/09/2021 18:21

@Autumngoldleaf

jewel

Imagine if their focus groups ever came to mn!!
Imagine!.
They don't seem to listen at all.. I've never witnessed a more stubborn party that's shat on it s base I really havant. Very navel gazzing, arrogant etc..

Labour MPs have had webchats on here, we were limited in what/how many questions could be asked on this subject

The questions that did get through were waved away by MPs with wishy washy platitudes

Libertaire · 30/09/2021 18:21

I'm an ex-Labour activist who hasn’t voted for the party since Corbyn became leader. Starmer has demonstrated that he is serious about reclaiming Labour from the Trots & anti-semites and making the party electable again. It was genuinely touching when he said ‘welcome home’ to Louise Ellman before his big speech. It’s time for me to come home, too.

Unfortunately, because I live in one of the safest true-blue Tory seats in the Midlands, my vote isn’t going to make any difference to anything.

politics4me · 30/09/2021 18:23

The 'Budget' will be in Oct or early Nov I think. We already know about the tax for the NHS/Care. He trialled that separately and seems to have got away with grumbles not riots.
Was that mentioned specifically at Brighton?
So it might be a 3 year plan. We have not seen one of those for a while.

Passmeamenuatthetottenham · 30/09/2021 18:24

I'm not voting for a party whose MPs are on record saying that men can gain a cervix with certain procedures and hormones, that babies are born without a sex, that women are not entitled to single sex spaces, or that male rapists should go to a women's prison if they want to.

The women's rights issue is important to me but it has uncovered something far wider - that these people will come out with the most stupid, ridiculous insulting horseshit in order to keep a specific ideology going, even when that ideology itself is clearly built on sand. These MPs are clever people, of course they don't believe any of what they are saying, but they will keep saying it, lest the dogma be undermined.

It's quite scary really, and not what I want from people who reckon they can lead the country.

LubaLuca · 30/09/2021 18:29

@StiggyZardust

I feel politically homeless at the moment. Previously I've voted for Labour. There doesn't seem to be a party that represents me, a middle aged woman with left/feminist leanings.
This is exactly how I feel. I'm not catered for.

Our local Labour MS is good, so I'd vote for him again. When it comes to a general election I don't know what I'd do. I might be forced into a 'topple the Tory' vote for whichever option is the most likely to succeed, although I'd feel aggrieved placing a vote for Labour as they are at the moment.

QuarantineQueen · 30/09/2021 18:35

The only way I'd vote labour is if I lived in Rosie Duffield's constituency.

fournonblondes · 30/09/2021 18:41

No way, that party have some serious dangerous loons. KS would be trying to please everyone. He lost my vote when he took the knee and worst even when he did a U turn on that afterwards. He is not a leader material probably ok for a human rights lawyer.

Also, the loons in that party are so scary.