Previously undecided voters would you vote for Starmer's Labour now?

[VinylQueen]

Are there any previously Tory voters or undecided voters who would now consider voting Labour in a GE based on Kier Starmer's speech and him taking on the far left of the party?

I vote Labour anyway but I'm interested if any of his speech "cut through" as they say. To my eyes the main heckler just came across like a complete loony and made Kier Starmer's stance look even more sensible.

You have the tone of someone who thinks they are offering a huge treat and that people who don't want it at merely stupid and ignorant

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I am a huge advocate for women’s rights. My point is that I haven’t seen much in the way of positive action from the current government about women’s right. And that they may seem to be standing up for women’s rights but they’ve done very little to demonstrate it.

Women's rights are human rights too, Iggly.
Children's rights are human rights.
Gay rights are human rights.
Detransitioners' rights are human rights.
My rights are human rights.

The T isn't the centre of the rights universe.

@SpindleWhirl

Women's rights are human rights too, Iggly. Children's rights are human rights. Gay rights are human rights. Detransitioners' rights are human rights. My rights are human rights.

The T isn't the centre of the rights universe.

Now you’ve confused me massively 🤷🏻‍♀️

Maybe I’m tired and it’s been a long day. What is your point.

Right now, Iggly, standing up to Stonewall #2 is the biggest favour any government can probably do for women, while women pull together.

Nope no chance. God knows who I can vote for now though.

Not a chance in hell.

We're politically homeless 🙁

As another poster so eloquently put it on a thread about Lammy's anti women's rights stance, labour are an "unelectable shower of shit".

labour are an "unelectable shower of shit"

That's quite the strapline for the modern age.

And the more I find out the GRA 2004 and Lammy's involvement, the more concerned I grow. Children's safeguarding was supposed to bloody matter then.

No bloody way. They can't even locate a cervix accurately. #nothankyou

To all the people criticising my post, I actually typed women's rights in my post and deleted it, as I thought I'd get lambasted by everyone saying ' They don't have a stance on women's rights'.

I agree with you, I'm not trying to be inflammatory.

No way

No thank you.

@elodie77

PickledOnionMonsterMunchies

I appreciate your insightful post, but it's wasted on the dimwits here who only have about three lines they crow endlessly in their misguided outrage about a perceived 'loss of rights'.

Even the Daily Mail readers appear to have had it with the sheer incompetence, pathological lying and sinister indifference about the lives and livelihoods of most people as shown again and again by the current government, judging by their comments on the Tory conference news items.

And it's this sneering attitude that you are so much more intelligent than us that means labour has likely lost us for good.

If you have to be so amazingly elite in intelligence that only a select few people can understand how wonderful labour are they are not really the party of the working class anymore.

Slow handclap for being so clever.

No thank you. I had hoped to be able to vote green, but will either spoil my ballot or vote for an independent.

@elodie77

PickledOnionMonsterMunchies

I appreciate your insightful post, but it's wasted on the dimwits here who only have about three lines they crow endlessly in their misguided outrage about a perceived 'loss of rights'.

Even the Daily Mail readers appear to have had it with the sheer incompetence, pathological lying and sinister indifference about the lives and livelihoods of most people as shown again and again by the current government, judging by their comments on the Tory conference news items.

I'm guessing you're actually a Tory then elodie, because I can't think of a better way to put people off voting Labour permanently than this sneery little diatribe.

misguided outrage about a perceived 'loss of rights'.

I know we are hoarding dinosaurs, we have heard this before.

I haven't actually come across anyone who thinks the tories are doing a good job either for the promoting the rights of women or day to day government.

But pledging to remove sex based rights as a category and denying basic female biological is a different level of risk for women.

Once sex based legal provisions are removed women won't get them back. All women will suffer with the most vulnerable women faring worst.

Tories aren't putting much on the table but at least they aren't sawing the legs off.

I have voted labour all my life I did not vote for Corbyn and will need t be voting for smarmer either.

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That's an interesting read. I'll have a proper dog through shortly..thanks for posting

I'd rather drink the urine of a homeless man filtered through his sweatpants than vote labour! 🥴

@WormYourHonour.
Thanks. .be good to hear what you think!

Another politically homeless dinosaur here.
Can't vote Labour, can't vote Libdems, can't vote Green, won't ever, ever vote Tory.
At the minute my only option is spoiling my ballot paper, at least that can't be taken as apathy. I won't have anybody trying to make me feeling guilty for the inevitable long term Tory rule. It's the job of the other parties to give me a reason to vote for them, not for me to have to vote for the least worst option despite them working directly against my interests.