Previously undecided voters would you vote for Starmer's Labour now?

[VinylQueen]

Are there any previously Tory voters or undecided voters who would now consider voting Labour in a GE based on Kier Starmer's speech and him taking on the far left of the party?

I vote Labour anyway but I'm interested if any of his speech "cut through" as they say. To my eyes the main heckler just came across like a complete loony and made Kier Starmer's stance look even more sensible.

@TerrificEchidnaSpikes

Well... I could in theory consider voting Labour...

But...

I can't quite grasp the pencil in my tiny little tyrannosaur hands... 🦖

Love this.

I'm a labour party member. I can't vote for them.

Keir, I really hope you or whoever monitors Mumsnet for you reads this. Ordinary women, not some sort of evil shrews, not crazed American right wing fundamentalists, just UK mums and other women, standing up for our children's health, our spaces, our refuges. We haven't all somehow run mad on bile, and you know it. Knowing that female biology is distinct and matters is not now, or ever, bigotry. We needed Labour and you have let us down.

Hear hear @LimpLettice

I'm another politically homeless voter. I've been interested in politics all my life and never missed an opportunity to vote (although have almost always lived in a safe Tory consituency so my left-leaning vote rarely made a difference). It's incredible to me that at the age of 47 I find myself seriously considering spoiling my ballot paper.

It's incredible to me that at the age of 47 I find myself seriously considering spoiling my ballot paper.

Same here - I’ve literally never imagined in my life that I might not only not vote for Labour but not vote at all.

I’ve been feeling very sad today about this and about how alienated I feel from Labour. I was a party member for years and even stood as a candidate in the past! I’ve defended them through all sorts of things. I could never have imagined I’d ever feel this way.

If anything has surprised me in the last few years, it’s how much an integral part of my self being a biological woman is - and how angry I am at the assumption that women and girls don’t matter.

Not on your nelly.

The only party that supports women's rights is the Communist Party.

No. I’m not voting for less respect for women - that would be absurd.

No. I have a cervix.

@flowerycurtain

No. Because of their stance on women.

Same. I liked him and the work he's done in the past. I thought he was decent and fair. I cannot believe with all his learning and experience that sex-based rights can be jeopardised. I've got absolutely no one to vote for.

no. I am hoarding my right to vote for someone who gives a shit about women.

I didn't vote last time because there was nobody to vote for. Sadly, that has not changed.

I stood for the lib dems, not because I wanted to but because I was asked nicely by them.
Now I'm not even wanted in the party because I believe in reality and safeguarding.

I've always voted Labour. Until they acknowledge me as a woman then I will never vote for them again.
On paper Tory suit me better, but I have never voted for them, if there was a GE tomorrow that's where my vote would now go.

I think Starmer is a decent guy, and I'm fed up with having total assholes in charge. I strongly suspect he wouldn't even start legislation on self ID were he to win a GE, and that he'd prioritise a million other policies before even looking into gender ID. I don't think the legislation would be brought in or even put forward

I think it's disappointing that the shadow cabinet said these things about cervixes in interviews, but he's in between a rock and a hard place with all the far left threats and is kicking the can down the road to keep the far left loonies off his case on yet another toxic argument

He’s the leader of the party. If he’s saying things he doesn’t believe just to keep people quiet, then what sort of spineless drip is he? Where is his strength? Where is his integrity? Why is he prepared to lie about his party’s plans if he has no intention of carrying them out? We’ve already got a spineless buffoon who tells people whatever it is he thinks they want to hear. We’d just be swapping for one with a different colour tie.

I spoilt my ballot paper last time and unless Shahrar Ali gets in for the Greens and there’s a Green candidate in my area (there never is)who has similar views (I’m not voting for anyone who has ever supported Amy Challenor being in their party) I’ll be spoiling it again next time. I’m utterly ashamed that I’ve done that, considering how hard women had to fight to get the vote, but I can’t bring myself to vote Tory and I will not vote for any party who not only fails to recognise my sex, but actively works to dismantle sex based rights and protections.

Have recently cancelled my membership of the Labour Party due to their comments relating to women’s rights, so my answer to your question is no.

No - labour always make promises they have no hope in hell over ever following through. The money isn't their to fund their policies.

They say the things people want to hear, but people know it won't happen, that's why they don't get the votes

As a lifelong labour voter I will never vote for them again as long as they won't say what a woman is. Watching Starmer and members of his shadow cabinet tie themselves in knots to avoid speaking biological fact is cringeworthy

No because they hate women

Now on earth have the transactivists got so much power?
Have….er…….generous sums of money been handed over to persuade the powers that be to support the trans activists’ cause?

How not now

No. I'm not voting labour in a GE. Same reasons as most of the above.

Maybe. I do like what he’s doing with the party but I worry the hard left won’t go down without a fight. Also Angela Rayner as deputy leader puts me off so much. I think it’s a real issue that the party votes for deputy and the leader just has to put up with it.
I really really like Lisa Nandy and the more prominent she is the more I consider it.

The woman issue is a big one but honestly I can’t believe that that’s what Keir Starmer actually believes. I don’t think most people who say they believe TWAW actually believe it deep down.

No.

Promises to protect women is meaningless if you don't know/can't say what a woman is.

How can I trust a party to run the country if they don't even know what a woman is?

No thank you.

@thewhatsit

The woman issue is a big one but honestly I can’t believe that that’s what Keir Starmer actually believes. I don’t think most people who say they believe TWAW actually believe it deep down.

I agree but that only makes it more insidious.

If they genuinely believed it, well at least they'd be fighting for something they believed in.

What's happening is that they know the truth; they know how women feel about our rights being dismantled; they know the impact on safeguarding etc and they are going ahead with it anyway because men.

@thewhatsit

The woman issue is a big one but honestly I can’t believe that that’s what Keir Starmer actually believes. I don’t think most people who say they believe TWAW actually believe it deep down.

Well of course he doesn't believe it. But he is still publicly supporting it no matter what he thinks in private. Which is worse really.

I was considering voting Labour as I can't vote SNP any more, but now that's out too.