Central Park Karen

[CanIPleaseHaveOne]

Did anyone come across this? It is really worth listening to.

podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-real-story-of-the-central-park-karen/id1570872415?i=1000530855326

@TrifleCat

Eorks

Laughable. I have an opinion that doesn’t fit into your stereotype of how black woman think therefore I can’t be a black woman.

You couldn’t make it up !

Yes I believe you either aren't black or are a Candace Owen type.

@aerosocks your post is absurd at best and deliberately offensive at worst.

Karen is nothing at all like the vile racist slurs that were included in a previous post. That is a false equivalence of the worst kind.

I have heard what Amy Cooper has to say in this podcast. It hasn't changed my mind in the slightest. She's a racist, a liar, and a poor excuse for a human being.

WhAt aBoUt tHe WhItE wOmMEn?! 🥴😴

Does she mention that poor dog in the podcast? Is she at least sorry for how he was treated?

I think @aerosocks's post just proves what people have been saying about the attitude some people on mumsnet seem to have. Gleefully typing out horrendous racial slur while comparing them to being called Karen.

Disturbing how many posts get deleted on race threads. Shows how many knuckle draggers live among us

Boooooooooooohoooooooooooo to the sad RACIST!

She can bugger off, she’s a racist!! Nothing more to say. Not giving more time to someone like her, there’s a terrifying history of people like her (emmett till’s accusers anyone? Who may still be alive!!). She can bugger right off and then some

@AtlasNeverShrugged

Does she mention that poor dog in the podcast? Is she at least sorry for how he was treated?

I listened to ten minutes of it then got bored of the American dramatic dragging everything out. They try to paint her as an amazing dog lover who fosters dogs and walked her dog ten times a day 🙄

Not clicking on the podcast link. I hope no one is being upset at the use of “Karen” and just blithely overlooking the hate crime committed by this trash bag. God it’s scary it happened in NY too

If the use of "Karen" is putting that many people off clicking on the link, then surely a better way of getting people to listen would be to not use the "Karen" thing in the first place.

This has happened so many times. If you know full well that the "Karen" thing is stopping people from listening to you about racism, and you choose to keep using it anyway, then that's on you. Loads of women have said they'll listen to you if you quit this one small thing, but no, you've deliberately chosen the approach that you knew would cause an argument.

There’s a reason the likes of Amy Cooper felt able to behave the way she did and it’s because of the people demonstrated here. Who think defending her against a mean name is worth more discussion than her actual racist actions.
Vile and I’m so glad the majority of the public aren’t like this, that they saw her for exactly what she was and she was held accountable for her actions.

There’s a reason the likes of Amy Cooper felt able to behave the way she did and it’s because of the people demonstrated here. Who think defending her against a mean name is worth more discussion than her actual racist actions.

Cosigned

@Makhiaman

There’s a reason the likes of Amy Cooper felt able to behave the way she did and it’s because of the people demonstrated here. Who think defending her against a mean name is worth more discussion than her actual racist actions. Vile and I’m so glad the majority of the public aren’t like this, that they saw her for exactly what she was and she was held accountable for her actions.

Yep. I don't give two fucks about the name and have never used it, but tbh this thread is making me want to start using it

It's the people who use "Karen" in the first place who are detracting from important discussions about racism, knowing full well that this would happen. If you're deliberately going to choose the method that causes maximum resistance, then you already know what will happen.

@Makhiaman

There’s a reason the likes of Amy Cooper felt able to behave the way she did and it’s because of the people demonstrated here. Who think defending her against a mean name is worth more discussion than her actual racist actions. Vile and I’m so glad the majority of the public aren’t like this, that they saw her for exactly what she was and she was held accountable for her actions.

This. I agree.

The fact that she called the police and said "an African American man was threatening her life", I checked out! Fuck her! WTAF!

we need to challenge racism and not buy into male belief systems at the same time, it should be possible

It is, it’s not difficult to care about racism and women’s rights. But there are posters here insisting that standing up for women means you don’t call out racism. I’m capable of both.

Loads of women have said they'll listen to you if you quit this one small thing, but no, you've deliberately chosen the approach that you knew would cause an argument.

No, it never works that way. There are people who will always find some reason to avoid confronting racism. "I would be happy to listen if you would only be less forceful in your approach, if you would only stop seeing racism where I don't see it, if you would only recognise that not all white people are racist, if you would only stop being so sensitive, if you would only realise that some white people just don't know any better," etc., etc., pathetic excuse after pathetic excuse. You may not like the use of the name Karen in this context. But surely you can look past it to the much more serious issue of racism that the Central Park incident brings into focus.

This thread is a prime example of a real problem in the wider culture.