Queen and Meghan and harry

[Pixxie7]

Apparently the queen is considering taking legal action to stop the verbal attacks on the royal family.

Problem is how can Harry desist? How is he going to earn money if not by washing their dirty linen in public? Writing books and making bad TV on the Royal family. He has no skills and has expectations of a very high standard of living. He's not going to become a personal trainer or set up an outward bound activity centre is he? I'm not sure his Missis would be content with that. After all he is a Prince! And they're just not very useful for anything are they?

@dancealittleclosertome

So should the Queen just ignore H&M as they trash the metaphorical house just because Andrew is hiding in the shed?

So what have they said to 'trash the house' @dancealittleclosertome ?

I just read an article in the Metro, it says The Queen is consulting lawyers ahead of Harry releasing his memoirs.

Does anyone work in publishing? I would have thought that this would have been fairly standard for a large organisation or powerful/famous individual if they knew or suspected that they would appear in someone else's book with no prior consultation.

I'm talking metaphorically, but I mean the Omid Scobie book, the Oprah Interview etc.

I wonder how H and M would react if Thomas Markle published his memoirs.
I would think Meghan would feel betrayed by her father.
I am not sure why this is different.
I am not a fan of the Royal family (the idea that anyone would be expected to curtesy to another human being is alien to me) but H and M are just irritating at this stage.

What have they said?
What laws have they broken?

If the Queen was going to sue anyone, it should be Omid Scobie, he is writing about the RF and their treatment of the Sussex's, despite the Sussex's denying any collaboration with him.

He seems to be a spokesperson for the Sussex's, officially or unofficially, he is the one who keeps dropping new info. Surprised the Sussex's have not threatened him with legal action.

They need to sue Omid and Caroline Durand who wrote finding freedom jointly - unofficially. This has been confirmed by the authors and the sussexes.

They also need to sue all the other authors of authorised and unauthorised biographies of the royals that are not uniformly positive. There are probably a few mean people on twitter too, those RF lawyers will be busy.
Lucky they have nothing else to think about at balmoral....

@Pixxie7

This thread is not about PA, it is about the RF and H and M.

And this is the crux of the problem.

People are far more concerned about H & M potentially upsetting the Queen than the fact that PA has been accused of raping an underage, trafficked child. He is refusing to speak with law enforcement in the states and is hiding behind his Royal privilege to get away with it.

I sincerely hope that the Queen does seek legal advice and sues if she feels she has been misrepresented. Let’s see if it happens or if this is just more smoke and mirrors to distract from the real issue here.

Thankfully, Virginia Giuffre has the courage of her convictions and is taking legal action against PA to try and get some minuscule form of the justice she so deserves, and isn’t just having her shady representatives leak the possibility that she might to the Scum. This is what we should be focusing on, H & M are simply a distraction.

@LuaDipa

Starting a thread about a news article is not a problem. I've already linked a couple of threads about Prince Andrew for those of you who only want to discuss him. Feel free to start another one if you want.

Why isn’t Ghislane dishing the dirt?

Very possibly saving it for a plea deal

Why hasn’t Virginia Roberts named anyone else?

She has.

[quote BringBackThinEyebrows]@LuaDipa

Starting a thread about a news article is not a problem. I've already linked a couple of threads about Prince Andrew for those of you who only want to discuss him. Feel free to start another one if you want.[/quote]
Imo these issues are somewhat interconnected as every time a further issue is raised re PA, further bombshells are leaked ‘from the palace’.

As I previously stated, if the Queen feels that she has cause to take legal action against H & M, I very much hope that she does. She would certainly have the support of much of the general public. As I also stated, let’s wait and see if she actually does or if this is yet another carefully timed distraction.

@CathyorClaire

Why isn’t Ghislane dishing the dirt?

Very possibly saving it for a plea deal

Why hasn’t Virginia Roberts named anyone else?

She has.

If I were Ghislane I’d be recording it somewhere and hand it over to a solicitor to keep and release if anything happened to me. And yeah, I’d be using it for plea bargaining too, but I thought more might have come out by now?

I missed who she has named! Is there a better thread for this please?

What is she taking legal action against H&M for? The book isn't out for over a year.

Perhaps she needs to take legal action on guessing what might be in it, and to use the legal bods who are up at Balmoral probably at the moment. Although theyre a tad busy...

And not necessarily does she have support of much of the general public.

A carefully timed distraction, yes.

I missed who she has named! Is there a better thread for this please?

There are a couple of threads specifically on PA:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/the_royal_family/3807047-Prince-Andrew-fails-to-cooperate-with-FBI

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/_chat/4326214-Prince-Andrew-sued-by-Virginia-Roberts-ll

but other alleged abusers were named in unsealed court documents:

www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/08/new-details-in-unsealed-jeffrey-epstein-documents

Jean-Luc Brunel is currently in custody having been detained in Paris as he was about to board a flight.

Harry dated Caroline Flack and she later wrote an autobiography. It's obvious from that everything had to cleared with Harry before publishing, and she wasn't allowed to speak openly about him.

The Queen probably wants to clear the personal info in Harry's memoir before it becomes public knowledge, particularly after the need to issue the 'recollections may vary' statement.

I don't know anything about writing personal information about other people in a book, but I've heard newspapers alert people just before they run stories on them. Would be interesting to learn more about this.

I’m interested in how the Queen can sue anyone because surely a U.K. court couldn’t find against her (could they?).

As for Andrew, I believe the law also states nobody can be arrested in the queen’s presence, or within the surroundings of a royal palace. Does that mean he is safe as long as he stays living at Royal Lodge?

@SunbathingDragon

I’m interested in how the Queen can sue anyone because surely a U.K. court couldn’t find against her (could they?).

As for Andrew, I believe the law also states nobody can be arrested in the queen’s presence, or within the surroundings of a royal palace. Does that mean he is safe as long as he stays living at Royal Lodge?

By nobody, I mean nobody in the royal family.

What is she taking legal action against H&M for? The book isn't out for over a year

I imagine the RF are taking advice about the Oprah interview and now all further developments. I know the investigation about Meghan bullying and abusing her staff is due for completion, so quite possibly that will also be included. Additionally, I imagine Harry is not going to be writing about his privileged and wonderful childhood of ponies, polo lessons, ski trips and a life time of incredible holidays and opportunities, of course he will spin it be the worst childhood in the world. The RF would be naive in the extreme to trust H&M one inch, and I don't expect we will see them back in the UK ever by the time they have finished.

Camilla announced she would never forgive Meghan for what she has done to Charles last week, that would not have been said lightly, for sure H&M have truly scorched any chance of being part of the RF even in a very distant way, the drawbridges will go up now to protect the family. H&M can expect a very cold future is my guess. So I hope the interview and book(s) will be worth it, and will cover their eyewatering lifestyle costs for the next 60 years.

Gosh so the Q is taking legal action not just about the unpublished book but any every public utterance they have made or will make.

And we all needed to be put on notice about these potential law suits for (checks notes) hurt feelings, general meaness and for crimes unknown when her 61 year old son has been accused of child rape.

Good to know. I am so pleased, as a tax payer, I am contributing to this.

Camilla announced she would never forgive Meghan for what she has done to Charles last week

Really?? I must've missed that announcement 🤨

Terribly sorry - I forgot to include the hurt feelings of Camilla

Maybe the RF could create an agreed script of pre approved comments about the RF so we can ensure that no one anywhere ever hurts their feelings again.
Better safe than sorry.

Reall Cammila said that!,
After what she did to his mother
Wow

@Samcro
Some people are more important than others. This is a heriditary monarchy after all.

Maybe they could publish all the approved comments about the RF in a little red book and distribute it to the population so should we need to think what is appropriate to say or tweet or think we would have it right there in our pockets.

I know the investigation about Meghan bullying and abusing her staff is due for completion so quite possibly that will also be included

That's not due until June 2023

Camilla announced she would never forgive Meghan for what she has done to Charles last week,

Gosh... never saw that, what news source was that in?

I imagine Harry is not going to be writing about his privileged and wonderful childhood

I read that he will be talking about his time at Highgrove, it was all pretty idyllic until his Mum died I imagine