Queen and Meghan and harry

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Apparently the queen is considering taking legal action to stop the verbal attacks on the royal family.

Ghislaine is awaiting trial, date set for November
Reports today intimate she is looking for a plea deal

The rape allegations against Bill Clinton are credible but if you mean Pizzagate re Hillary then that's in the realms of conspiracy theory.

I think she should focus on andrew.

The Queen believes Andrew when he says he is innocent. What kind of mother would she be if she forced him to speak to investigators knowing this could put him at risk.

One with a good moral compass.

tigger1001, but what would you do if you believed your child if they said they were innocent? Would you still force them to talk to investigators even if there was a risk to them. FWIW I don’t think Andrew is innocent but I sympathise with the position the Queen is in. Things may well escalate when Ghislaine Maxwell is testifies and the Queen May well be put in an impossible position. She’s 94 though, I think people need to remember that.

@stairway

tigger1001, but what would you do if you believed your child if they said they were innocent? Would you still force them to talk to investigators even if there was a risk to them. FWIW I don’t think Andrew is innocent but I sympathise with the position the Queen is in. Things may well escalate when Ghislaine Maxwell is testifies and the Queen May well be put in an impossible position. She’s 94 though, I think people need to remember that.

Yes, in order to clear their name. Not saying anything isn't working as a strategy.

But let's be honest, it wouldn't be open to us as a strategy anyway. It's only due to the massive privilege that they enjoy that they can continue to shield him,

The Queen is misusing her position to protect loathsome reptile Andrew. H and M are also loathsome reptiles who are misusing their position to make as much money as possible.

It's high time they all went.

If it's true that the royal family is consulting with libel lawyers, it probably has more to do with Meghan's threats to sue newspapers over stories purporting to describe her and Harry's interactions with other members of the family. The newspapers will most likely argue truth as a defense. The royals may be dragged into it at that point, and they can choose to either try to avoid that or take the opportunity to set the record straight. Whatever their preference, they'd be wise to research their legal options beforehand.

It may also have something to do with the bullying accusations. If previous reports that the Sussexes prepared a 30-page rebuttal to the allegations were accurate, it's likely that it will end up published soon after the formal investigation is finished, or perhaps before. To be fair, it's likely that information from that investigation will be leaked, too. Meghan appears to have put several of her friends and spokespeople up to saying things about those employees that, if not outright defamatory, are at the very least unfair to say about someone who can't respond due to a non-disclosure agreement. If the palace anticipates more of the same down the line, then IMHO, they'd be reasonable to start talking to libel attorneys now.

It may also have to do with Andrew. One of the other men Virginia Giuffre accuses of sexually abusing her, an American attorney, has vehemently denied it and sued her in the US for defamation. If (big "if") Andrew didn't do it - or if the Queen believes he didn't - that would also be a reasonable thing for them to talk to libel specialists about at this point.

If it’s true then I think it’s perfectly acceptable - my initial thought was “good for the Queen”.

I can sympathise with Harry to an extent. He had always hated the media intrusion into his life, there are interviews when he was much younger when he spoke of hating the U.K. press. Although being a royal comes with much privilege, I get that it also comes with huge restrictions and Harry didn’t want that.

That’s fine.

But he and Megan have double standards. All families have disputes and issues. But not all families have a platform on which to tell the world - they wouldn’t want it. Why is it ok for Harry and Megan to air everything in public and criticise his family yet it’s not ok for other people to talk about them or criticise them?

I wish they would just shut up and get on with their lives. They say they wanted privacy but in reality they don’t want privacy - they want to be splashed all over the media but in their terms only.

The queen is 95 and must be sick of the whole lot of them (including Andrew)

One of the other men Virginia Giuffre accuses of sexually abusing her, an American attorney, has vehemently denied it and sued her in the US for defamation.

Actually that is inaccurate.
Alan Derschowitz was Epstein's attorney and was sued by VG.
He's attempting to countersue as a defence

On the upside, if Harry can stick the knife in to his own father in a big heavily publicised interview - publicised by that media he hates so much, he will definitely have some dirt on Uncle Andrew so he can serve that up cold. He loves slagging off family so time he did it to the family that really deserve it.

tigger1001

“Cannot discuss H&M without wondering if it's all just a distraction from the real issue of andrew.”

I might - just might- go along with that assertion if H and M were living quietly and saying nothing about the RF but they are not so I really don’t see how anyone can say that H and M are a distraction ! They are 2 entirely separate issues .
PA is an arrogant nasty piece of work( quote from my DH who met him on more than one occasion ) while H and M are clinging desperately to the RF coat tails to fund their lifestyle .

@ QueenHofScotland

I agree with a lot of what you say however H could have stepped back years ago if he hated the press intrusion . He could have renounced his place in the LOS and moved to Africa ( where he seemed so happy) and continued his good work or he could have stayed in the Military .

HM should stop protecting PA. he is 60 so not a child that needs her protection.

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Well considering the monarch is 'the figure in whose name justice is carried out, and law and order is maintained.'
She probably shouldn't be harbouring a potential fugitive.

Either she takes in public money because she does her duty and upholds the law or she should step down.

Not cast out her grandson for protecting his wife and children from his racist, family who associate with child abusers

What's the rationale for insisting PA keeps his military title as colonel in the Riyal guards whilst stripping Harry of his?

It's a tone-deaf personal favouritism and not in the public interest"

I agree with @KidneyBeans opinion as above

All these posters talking about distraction then trying to derail this thread 😁

You can discuss Andrew in these live threads:
👉 Prince Andrew sued by Virginia Roberts ll
👉 Prince Andrew 'fails to cooperate' with FBI

Back on topic, I think it's fair enough if true.

I don't really follow the H&M stuff - it seems to me to be mostly overblown diversionary tactics to distract from the racist bigots who associate with paedophiles and sex abusers that comprise our royal family.

Anyone able to outline exactly what is is Harry and a Meghan have done that warrants legal action?

The only thing I can find is that Harry plans on writing a book.
Interesting that the RF want to gag him.

@Oldbutstillgotit

@ QueenHofScotland

I agree with a lot of what you say however H could have stepped back years ago if he hated the press intrusion . He could have renounced his place in the LOS and moved to Africa ( where he seemed so happy) and continued his good work or he could have stayed in the Military .

Yes he could have. I dare say though it would be hard to step away on your own.

I hope he had happy times. The press certainly made out he was close to W and K

@Oldbutstillgotit

@ QueenHofScotland

I agree with a lot of what you say however H could have stepped back years ago if he hated the press intrusion . He could have renounced his place in the LOS and moved to Africa ( where he seemed so happy) and continued his good work or he could have stayed in the Military .

Africa is a big place. Can we avoid the colonial overtones?

I think H&M are laying off PA because H is close to Eugenie and she provides a bolt hole in the UK and an entree into his previous society. If they trash her father she may well withdraw her support.

Harry and Meghan are not tax payer funded and live thousands of miles away.

PA is accused of CSA and being associated with an international child trafficking ring for over a decade. His mum is allowing him to hide from the consequences at Balmoral and is paying his legal fees. The RF and the courtiers have set their royal rota reporters to spin the story as sad and upsetting for an elderly lady (never mind the victims). They have smeared Virginia and when all else fails we get the predictable
"waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah Meghan and Harry"
Oh and by the way we get to pay for this shit show via our taxes, but do lets talk about a theoretical legal action leaked by unnamed sources conveniently when PA and mummy are getting bad press.

Pathetic and Predictable

It's embarassing.

Oh, I think Harry likes the “colonial” thing very well. I think a general “Africa” is ok in this regard because it is a continent and no one is talking about any specific country. People talk about “Europe” and “South America” - it’s indicating a general area.

It's interesting, when I google 'royal family news'

I get a load of stuff about Harry and Meghan, some stuff about Kate's birthday and even an article about the Duchess of Cornwall discussing gardens

Absolutely nothing about Prince Andrew being sued for sexual assault.

Wonder why that is....?

@KidneyBeans

I don't really follow the H&M stuff - it seems to me to be mostly overblown diversionary tactics to distract from the racist bigots who associate with paedophiles and sex abusers that comprise our royal family.

Anyone able to outline exactly what is is Harry and a Meghan have done that warrants legal action?

The only thing I can find is that Harry plans on writing a book.
Interesting that the RF want to gag him.

I think the overexposure in the media is due to the money H&M clickbait makes for the British press.

Not sure about legal action, but the Oprah interview where they made a huge deal about a racist conversation, then said they were refusing to disclose the details crossed a line IMO. They should have named the person, or if they didn't want to, they should have resolved it privately. Every member of the Royal Family (including children) were accused on social media following that interview.

It comes as no surprise to learn of racism in the Royal Family. Harry has the biggest track record of racism after all, and he must have learnt it from somewhere.

Also given that the Q is multi tasking at the minute

I imagine she will be taking legal action against Fergie for her various books, Charles his witterings in the 90s, Netflix too for the Crown, the Guardian is pretty disrespectful too.

What a good use of tax paper funds?

Can anyone quote the particularly upsetting words that H&M said? Or do we just need to trust and believe in the integrity of the Sun and the unnamed sources that bad things were said and "steps must be taken" right at the very second they need to distract from PA and his special friends.