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Queen and Meghan and harry

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Pixxie7 · 23/08/2021 04:47

Apparently the queen is considering taking legal action to stop the verbal attacks on the royal family.

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GrimDamnFanjo · 30/08/2021 13:21

@SpindleWhorl

I don't believe Beatrice and Eugenie have ever as adults been remotely popular. Not since Hatgate in 2011. It wasn't just the ridiculous and frivolous hats, it was the year they started to close ranks with their father (and mother) as the Epstein connections began to unravel in public.
Nothing to do with hats. Everything to do with paying for their security until Charles finally said no.
Roussette · 30/08/2021 13:22

So the press is concerned that Meghan has no relationship with a brother and sister she barely knows and is called all sorts for it

And who goes on Big Brother and spouts off about her and the other one writes horrible books on her... yet they've seen each other about once in 15 years or something...

On the property subject again.....
Eugenie is currently staying with Jack Brooksbank and their newborn son August at Prince Harry and Meghan Markle’s UK home of Frogmore Cottage which the Duke and Duchess of Sussex are required to pay commercial rent on, but reports suggest Harry and Meghan are not requiring the couple to pay the rent

Eugenie and H&M obviously are close then, that's a nice gesture.

Roussette · 30/08/2021 13:23

we’re currently all clamouring for Andrew to be relieved of that expectation

You bet we are.
I don't want to see his smug face again unless it's answering to lawyers

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Blossomtoes · 30/08/2021 13:30

@Roussette

we’re currently all clamouring for Andrew to be relieved of that expectation

You bet we are.
I don't want to see his smug face again unless it's answering to lawyers

That’s something we can all agree on!
Roussette · 30/08/2021 13:31

Grin Indeed we can!

AnnunciataZ · 30/08/2021 13:51

Eugenie and H&M obviously are close then, that's a nice gesture.

An interesting revelation from the Oprah interview, for me at least, was finding out Eugenie and Meghan had been friends for a while. Fergie even taught Meghan how to curtsy! And I think Harry stayed at Frogmore with E&J when he returned for the DoE's funeral so he must still be on good terms with them.

Roussette · 30/08/2021 14:04

Yes and E and M spoke multiple times during their concurrent pregnancies

Puzzledandpissedoff · 30/08/2021 14:14

Charles can't stand Andrew (apparently)

I wouldn't know, but do recall him saying to some reporter "Are you trying to impugn my brother's honour?"
Bet he regrets that now, except I'm not convinced his mentality has space for regret

BTW Roussette, if it's Andrew you were referring to as "the only one who kisses HM's hand ..." I'm pretty sure there's newsreel of Charles doing it too? A slobbery, repusive gesture, it always looks to me like something more fitted to earlier centuries, but then I guess that sums him up

Roussette · 30/08/2021 14:25

I read somewhere (for god's sake don't ask me where, I can't bear to see his face if I google!) that Andrew had this particular gesture to greet the Queen which was a half bow, a 'mama and a kiss on the hand, or was it both cheeks, can't remember.

I imagine he does it if he's just popped to the loo and gone back in lol

Puzzledandpissedoff · 30/08/2021 14:28

I imagine he does it if he's just popped to the loo and gone back in

Grin Grin

Okay, so I promise I won't ask Wink It's never easy anyway, because whatever we google about the RF it's always leapfrogged by their more recent disasters

Why2why · 30/08/2021 15:08

@Blossomtoes

The British press also wants Harry to leave his wife and kids to support William but no such expectations of Charles’ brothers?

Does it? I haven’t seen any media coverage suggesting that. And of course there’s an expectation of Charles’ siblings. Anne and Edward are the two hardest working royals and we’re currently all clamouring for Andrew to be relieved of that expectation.

Stop acting as if you’ve not read the cries for Harry to be back in the UK supporting his brother, articles that say he is lost and is Meghan keeping him away, articles that say the relationship won’t last as he is missing his brother and sister-in-law, how he is unhappy in California and will regret and run back to the UK.

The British media would love nothing more for that marriage to end.

Blossomtoes · 30/08/2021 15:11

I haven’t read anything like that. Presumably links are available?

Nsky · 30/08/2021 15:19

Send them off to sea, A, M and Harry, leave the queen be.
Hopefully the end

KidneyBeans · 30/08/2021 15:21

@Blossomtoes

I haven’t read anything like that. Presumably links are available?
Google is your friend, there's no shortage

www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/harry-william-can-only-heal-24146582

Roussette · 30/08/2021 15:33

There's been endless speculation on these threads with posters talking about when Harry comes grovelling back to the RF. And it has been quite funny to read...
It started off as 6 months after they left, with whole scenarios of him never being able to see Archie again because he would definitely come back to the UK and if Archie came, the Queen would be in charge of him and MM wouldn't get a look in.
6 months came and went and then it was a year... wonder what it is now?!

Blossomtoes · 30/08/2021 15:34

But that gutter press puff for some “Royal expert’s” book isn’t cries for Harry to be back in the UK supporting his brother, articles that say he is lost and is Meghan keeping him away, articles that say the relationship won’t last as he is missing his brother and sister-in-law, how he is unhappy in California and will regret and run back to the UK.

It’s just a cut and paste of non news.

KidneyBeans · 30/08/2021 19:45

@Blossomtoes

But that gutter press puff for some “Royal expert’s” book isn’t cries for Harry to be back in the UK supporting his brother, articles that say he is lost and is Meghan keeping him away, articles that say the relationship won’t last as he is missing his brother and sister-in-law, how he is unhappy in California and will regret and run back to the UK.

It’s just a cut and paste of non news.

How is that different to the article linked to in the OP then? There are very few news outlets with a proveable track record of lying than the Sun

A lot of of the Royal Rota are 'gutter press'

Blossomtoes · 30/08/2021 19:58

I don’t disagree with any of that. But it was offered up as evidence for a point it doesn’t prove.

KidneyBeans · 30/08/2021 20:08

@Blossomtoes

I don’t disagree with any of that. But it was offered up as evidence for a point it doesn’t prove.
You don't think a press article that states?

"the only way that things would go back to normal is if Prince Harry and Meghan Markle were to separate and Prince Harry returned to the UK solo"

Is evidence that 'The British press also wants Harry to leave his wife and kids to support William'

Which part of those two statements do you find contradictory?
Honestly I think you'd try to start an argument in an empty room Wink

Blossomtoes · 30/08/2021 20:13

the only way that things would go back to normal is if Prince Harry and Meghan Markle were to separate and Prince Harry returned to the UK solo

That’s a quote from the author of the book that’s the subject of the article. If you don’t want to engage with me that’s OK but if you want me to just nod and agree it’s not going to happen.

Plumtree391 · 30/08/2021 20:19

@Roussette

There's been endless speculation on these threads with posters talking about when Harry comes grovelling back to the RF. And it has been quite funny to read... It started off as 6 months after they left, with whole scenarios of him never being able to see Archie again because he would definitely come back to the UK and if Archie came, the Queen would be in charge of him and MM wouldn't get a look in. 6 months came and went and then it was a year... wonder what it is now?!
We need to take everything we read in the media (or see on Youtube), with a large grain of salt. I think you realise that but there are some who take it all as gospel.

I'd never read or seen so much royal family stuff before being on Mumsnet, it's got to the point where I'm almost dreaming about them!

My conclusion is, they can't win whatever they do or don't do and nobody actually knows what the Queen thinks about current situations, apart from her own family who aren't going to say.

Good luck to them all, I am very glad not to be famous.

Roussette · 30/08/2021 20:30

Absolutely right Plum

I agree, I've been on MN since dinosaurs roamed the earth and I barely remember royal threads years ago!

I read an interesting article a few days ago, cant remember where from, and it said that Harry's r/ship is close to the Queen and vice versa... and it's all down to her losing her Chief Aide/private aide a couple of years back, and the new one who dislikes MM had a different approach and part of these problems are down to him
(NO IDEA how true this is... but there's quite a bit out there on it)

Roussette · 30/08/2021 20:31

*Chief Aide/Private Secretary

KidneyBeans · 30/08/2021 20:35

@Blossomtoes

the only way that things would go back to normal is if Prince Harry and Meghan Markle were to separate and Prince Harry returned to the UK solo

That’s a quote from the author of the book that’s the subject of the article. If you don’t want to engage with me that’s OK but if you want me to just nod and agree it’s not going to happen.

Yes it is. Publicised in a major UK newspaper

And the press reporting promotes and disseminated that message.
Which is exactly the point that being made
and that you're challenging (based on nothing bout 'I've not seen it so it can't be true'

I believe the headline and the rest of the article come from the journalist. They're along similar lines. As mentioned before, you're welcome to google yourself

Which bit of that article did you feel didn't support the Press calling for Harry to leave Meghan to return to the UK?

KidneyBeans · 30/08/2021 20:37

@Roussette

Absolutely right Plum

I agree, I've been on MN since dinosaurs roamed the earth and I barely remember royal threads years ago!

I read an interesting article a few days ago, cant remember where from, and it said that Harry's r/ship is close to the Queen and vice versa... and it's all down to her losing her Chief Aide/private aide a couple of years back, and the new one who dislikes MM had a different approach and part of these problems are down to him
(NO IDEA how true this is... but there's quite a bit out there on it)

Agree as already said the Royal Rota system means any press reporting is highly influenced by the royal 'firm'

But to deny that reporting occurs is odd