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Queen and Meghan and harry

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Pixxie7 · 23/08/2021 04:47

Apparently the queen is considering taking legal action to stop the verbal attacks on the royal family.

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Itsthepitstoo · 30/08/2021 12:07

She allows everyone else to cherry pick considering that the rest of the family work privately and help her too. Ask her cousin, Prince Michael who infact does sell his connection.

How does she do her job of heading cw countries while overseas in the UK?

And what does leaving Canada have to do with them leaving because of security bill considering that the US also does not pick up their security bill. Sorry, am missing your point here.

Aspiringmatriarch · 30/08/2021 12:08

Blossomtoes by cherry pick, you mean have any flexibility or independence while also looking after their mental health?

KidneyBeans · 30/08/2021 12:08

@Blossomtoes

She had absolutely no qualms about 'reigning' in other members of the RF, for less. Taking away their patronages and titles

She didn’t take their patronages and titles. They walked away from them to live on the other side of the world.

So how is them walking away more worthy of title removal than being shady, hanging out with a sex offender and getting wrapped up in a child trafficking scandal?

What are the rules for title removal?

Cos to me it seems pretty whimsical and based on personal preference. Nothing to do with duty and supporting the nation

Interested in this thread?

Then you might like threads about this subject:

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Blossomtoes · 30/08/2021 12:10

@Roussette

Forgetting covid, by travelling?

What an asset they could've been. What a huge loss for us.

I completely agree. They could have been a great asset. The amount of goodwill towards them when they were married was huge. Unfortunately they’ve squandered it and are now beaten in the unpopularity stakes only by the odious Andrew.
Itsthepitstoo · 30/08/2021 12:12

Unpopular stakes to you, you mean.

Itsthepitstoo · 30/08/2021 12:13

Also, they did not squander anything, it was the media that squandered things for them as well the 'royal sources'.

Roussette · 30/08/2021 12:13

What I find amazing is... the fact the Queen is not reading the room.

Yes, the public are split on H&M, not sure how that split is as far as figures but despite posters on here continually saying "everyone thinks they are awful"... that is so not true, given my experience with other MNers, given other outlets of social media and given people I know.

BUT

It is pretty universal about Andrew. To be honest, I've not seen anyone strongly defend him, except in the yawnworthy 'innocent until proven guilty' twaddle.
He is disliked, he is almost despised by the general public... yet the Q tells the Armed Forces he's to keep certain titles, despite their disapproval.
Why?
Why, such a blind spot with him, surely it just can't be favourite son syndrome.... or can it?

KidneyBeans · 30/08/2021 12:16

Why would they want to be an 'asset' to a family that hangs out with sex offenders and shelters racists though?
Confused

They don't owe us anything and this country has been vile to Meghan throughout their entire courtship (I assume it was the British public supporting the awful media reporting on Meghan?)
I'm not sure they've 'squandered' anything. I think they've had a lucky escape.

Roussette · 30/08/2021 12:17

The amount of goodwill towards them when they were married was huge. Unfortunately they’ve squandered it and are now beaten in the unpopularity stakes only by the odious Andrew

Totally disagree. They squandered nothing. Yeah everyone loves a royal wedding, it's a spectacle but hang on a minute... the media had started with their drip drip criticism, and even on here, there were endess threads criticising them before they were married.

One thread title sticks in my mind and it was round engagement time... it said
'I'm fucking sick of Harry & Meghan aready' (or words to that effect)

Read into that what you will

Blossomtoes · 30/08/2021 12:18

@Itsthepitstoo

Unpopular stakes to you, you mean.
Nope.

yougov.co.uk/ratings/politics/popularity/royalty/all

Roussette · 30/08/2021 12:19

I think they've had a lucky escape

Yes yes yes. I've said before (and it's not gone down well) that I honestly think we will look back in a decade and think.. they were wise, astute, and clever leaving and forging their own lives because just look what they've left.
Good on them. A brave sensible move.

Roussette · 30/08/2021 12:25

Hahaha on the you.gov poll.

You do know they ask around about 1,000 people?! Hardly representative and if we're talking you.gov polls ....

A YouGov survey of 4,870 indicates that at least 41 per cent of people aged 18 to 24 preferred an elected head of the state as compared to 31 per cent who wanted a king or a queen

Once the royal tea towel flag waving generation die out... that's our future, the 18-24 year olds.

Itsthepitstoo · 30/08/2021 12:26

Yougov has been noted for it's dodgy little ratings. So Bea and Eugenie are pretty much the same as H&M?

There was also another poll for young people who said they respect H&M the most out of the rf.

Plumtree391 · 30/08/2021 12:28

@Roussette

I think they've had a lucky escape

Yes yes yes. I've said before (and it's not gone down well) that I honestly think we will look back in a decade and think.. they were wise, astute, and clever leaving and forging their own lives because just look what they've left.
Good on them. A brave sensible move.

I too think their move was brave and sensible.

The pandemic hasn't been exactly helpful in them getting started seriously on anything much however the benefit of time with Archie, and the privacy of her pregnancy, have been good things.

They will ultimately find their niche. I wish them happiness and hope they will come here often.

People really must try to separate them in their minds from the sordid Andrew business, it has nothing to do with them.

KidneyBeans · 30/08/2021 12:29

@Roussette

Hahaha on the you.gov poll.

You do know they ask around about 1,000 people?! Hardly representative and if we're talking you.gov polls ....

A YouGov survey of 4,870 indicates that at least 41 per cent of people aged 18 to 24 preferred an elected head of the state as compared to 31 per cent who wanted a king or a queen

Once the royal tea towel flag waving generation die out... that's our future, the 18-24 year olds.

It's the same if you filter the popularity ranking by age groups too.

Interesting that death seems to have increased Prince Philip's popularity as a royal Confused

Roussette · 30/08/2021 12:30

I think covid has been a blessing in disguise for them as far as having two little ones and how great there is no photo of Lili yet. They don't have to provide one, they are independent, and we don't own them!

I've always said it... in the grand scheme of things, the Andrew thing will and has done far far more damage to the Monarchy than H&M.

SpindleWhorl · 30/08/2021 12:34

Charles can't stand [Andrew] (apparently)

I wish he'd show it very publicly. Maybe after London Bridge, eh.

Roussette · 30/08/2021 12:41

Yes, indeed. I think it will be very very different then.

Blossomtoes · 30/08/2021 12:50

@Itsthepitstoo

Yougov has been noted for it's dodgy little ratings. So Bea and Eugenie are pretty much the same as H&M?

There was also another poll for young people who said they respect H&M the most out of the rf.

Got a link to that poll?
SpindleWhorl · 30/08/2021 12:58

I don't believe Beatrice and Eugenie have ever as adults been remotely popular. Not since Hatgate in 2011. It wasn't just the ridiculous and frivolous hats, it was the year they started to close ranks with their father (and mother) as the Epstein connections began to unravel in public.

Queen and Meghan and harry
Blossomtoes · 30/08/2021 13:00

Their popularity is neither here nor there. They’re not working royals.

Roussette · 30/08/2021 13:09

They're living in royal dwellings/palaces though. Eugenie, husband and son in Frogmore and Beatrice and husband in St. James's Palace.

So we are funding them. And have a say. I doubt they pay rent given that St. James's Palace is over a million a month!

Why2why · 30/08/2021 13:10

It was a poll done by a mental health charity of about 1000 young people.

However, it’s not surprising that young people would identify more with Meghan and Harry. William and Kate do not represent modern. Kate could not possibly have much to say to young women who see through the lens of women empowerment.

There is nothing about the Royal Family as it is that is in keeping with the big issues of today: racism, feminism, climate change, anti-colonial history that is skewed, etc, etc

Why2why · 30/08/2021 13:14

@SpindleWhorl

Charles can't stand [Andrew] (apparently)

I wish he'd show it very publicly. Maybe after London Bridge, eh.

Oh? So the press is concerned that Meghan has no relationship with a brother and sister she barely knows and is called all sorts for it but Andrew’s and Charles’ fractured relationship is okay. The British press also wants Harry to leave his wife and kids to support William but no such expectations of Charles’ brothers?

Charles also does not get on well with Edward. The whole family is dysfunctional but the British press would have us believe that it is Meghan that has broken relationships with her father and his other kids.

Blossomtoes · 30/08/2021 13:19

The British press also wants Harry to leave his wife and kids to support William but no such expectations of Charles’ brothers?

Does it? I haven’t seen any media coverage suggesting that. And of course there’s an expectation of Charles’ siblings. Anne and Edward are the two hardest working royals and we’re currently all clamouring for Andrew to be relieved of that expectation.