Queen and Meghan and harry

[Pixxie7]

Apparently the queen is considering taking legal action to stop the verbal attacks on the royal family.

kidney: it's an extension of reality TV - celebrities choose to live their lives in the public and gain income through that public profile and product placement.

H&M are attempting to leverage their unique position to access to potential "spill the beans" on the RF to hoik themselves all over the world and be taken seriously as "kind" people whose voice matters.

They are unaware of how tacky their actual brand is as no-one wants to be associated with people running their own family down in public. They are on a downwards trajectory to the Katie Price show - it's about relationship fall outs. They really aren't any different.

Making announcements about breaking intergenerational "pain" by running family down his own family on any media platform that'll have him, Harry has tarnished his brand.

Kind of missing the point - Scobie gets things wrong even when doing exactly what's he's been told to do - that's why he fits the character of Manuel- he isn't doing anything wrong at all. It's just his employers will blame him anyhow. I would not feel too secure in the role as people are endlessly cast aside looking for new people to blame.

@MummyJ12

I tend not to post on threads like this anymore because there are such entrenched opinions on MN and I often don’t feel like I can contribute constructively. However! Apparently the story has stemmed from Harry writing and releasing this book. It’s just all very sad. I’m not sure what his intentions are with it. No one does and I think that is the issue. He has people worried that there is more mud slinging ahead. It’s taking the spotlight from a more pressing issue which is dealing with PA that’s for sure. Harry needs to start focusing on the future and look more positively ahead. He has so much to be thankful for rather than complaining and being angry. Whether or not he means to feed the press frenzy and poke the beast doesn’t matter, he seems to and it’s a shame.

Has anyone read it yet? I haven't.

I can't see him doing any mud slinging, frankly.

@Marmaladeagain

kidney: it's an extension of reality TV - celebrities choose to live their lives in the public and gain income through that public profile and product placement.

H&M are attempting to leverage their unique position to access to potential "spill the beans" on the RF to hoik themselves all over the world and be taken seriously as "kind" people whose voice matters.

They are unaware of how tacky their actual brand is as no-one wants to be associated with people running their own family down in public. They are on a downwards trajectory to the Katie Price show - it's about relationship fall outs. They really aren't any different.

Making announcements about breaking intergenerational "pain" by running family down his own family on any media platform that'll have him, Harry has tarnished his brand.

Kind of missing the point - Scobie gets things wrong even when doing exactly what's he's been told to do - that's why he fits the character of Manuel- he isn't doing anything wrong at all. It's just his employers will blame him anyhow. I would not feel too secure in the role as people are endlessly cast aside looking for new people to blame.

Your opinion is that they're in a downward trajectory. Your recap of all their activities over the last 7 days and the ongoing media and public interest in their lives doesn't support that

You liken them to Katie Price. Socially and reputational my, there are clear differences but if we accept that, then she may well divide public opinion, but she's still a successful millionaire

Regardless, whilst ever you're avidly discussing, posting and clicking on media about them, you are promoting and supporting them.

@Roussette

For those that need 'comedy' in their lives and are insisting that H&M are... I have lots of recommendations!

Who were the ones who gave damning verdicts on the Oprah interview without even watching it first?

Yep.
Dickie Arbiter
Ingrid Seward
CNN's Victoria Arbiter
and Richard Fitzwilliams.

Deceitful liars who heavily criticised H&M interview without having seen it, totally judgemental.

They talked about Meghan's involvement in Balham donkey sanctuary FFS!

They made themselves look like the fools they are.

It just another example of the lengths people are prepared go to and the things they will say in order to top up the coffers. It’s more like two cheeks of the same comedic/foolish arse. IMO

I think the whole of the Royal Family are the ultimate in reality TV actually!

They are unaware of how tacky their actual brand is as no-one wants to be associated with people running their own family down in public

How wrong you are... do you have any idea of the projects H&M are involved in?
Why do you come out with this stuff like it's fact.
It isn't.

Here's some info for you to rebut your rant

The Women For Afghan Women charity thanked Prince Harry and Meghan on its Instagram account publicly on Sunday.

The message read: "We are immensely grateful for the generosity of the Archewell Foundation in support of our efforts to evacuate/relocate thousands of Afghan women, children, families, including our staff."

Meanwhile, World Central Kitchen shared on its Instagram page: "With support from around the world — and our partners The Duke and Duchess of Sussex & Archewell Foundation joining the relief effort — WCK is now delivering thousands of hot, nutritious meals daily to hospitals & shelters caring for Haitians impacted by the earthquake. Thank you!"

No-one wants to be associated with them?

I think not. That's just in your head and what you wish.

Many people would disagree with you @Plumtree391 which is exactly why this legal team has been put together apparently.
It’s the point of the story and the point of this thread.
No one is claiming to have read the book.
Harry has made many claims that could be seen as ‘mud slinging’. He’s not exactly claiming that everything is fabulous with him and his family is he?
But no worries, let the Queen know she can send her lawyers home because Harry would never sling any mud, anywhere. Nothing to see here…..🙄

@MummyJ12

Many people would disagree with you *@Plumtree391* which is exactly why this legal team has been put together apparently. It’s the point of the story and the point of this thread. No one is claiming to have read the book. Harry has made many claims that could be seen as ‘mud slinging’. He’s not exactly claiming that everything is fabulous with him and his family is he? But no worries, let the Queen know she can send her lawyers home because Harry would never sling any mud, anywhere. Nothing to see here…..🙄

It’s the point of the story and the point of this thread

Really? Is there any evidence of that?

I haven't scoured news reports and won't click on Sun links but my impression was that the point of the story was for the Royal rota to divert away from PA and the point of this thread seems to be an excuse to put the boot into H&M for no clear reason

kidney: why do you care though what I post or what links I look at.

I've said I find their PR very amusing and I'm a consumer of their PR disasters. HTH. They are wealthy whether I look at a link or not. There are lots of wealthy people that will be concerned at the scrutiny that H&M will in time draw to how they accrue vast wealth and Foundations etc.

You do understand H&M are required to give 5% via a Foundation every year? It's not charity as UK sees charity, it's US tax planning ultimately.

We won't know if he will be mud slinging until the book is published. I don't see what mud he has to sling, frankly, and presumably he loves his family. He certainly has nothing against his father, brother and grandparents. We all know the lifestyle didn't suit him and Meghan but it wasn't anything personal against his folks.

Yes, it’s in quite a lot of the press. All of the stories mentioned the book.
www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1480121/Queen-news-prince-harry-meghan-markle-legal-action-royal-family-attacks-sussex-memoir-book

@Marmaladeagain

kidney: why do you care though what I post or what links I look at.

I've said I find their PR very amusing and I'm a consumer of their PR disasters. HTH. They are wealthy whether I look at a link or not. There are lots of wealthy people that will be concerned at the scrutiny that H&M will in time draw to how they accrue vast wealth and Foundations etc.

You do understand H&M are required to give 5% via a Foundation every year? It's not charity as UK sees charity, it's US tax planning ultimately.

Well considering they provide you with so much entertainment you seem oddly critical of them.

I guess some people actively enjoy criticising others. I find that fascinating

[quote MummyJ12]Yes, it’s in quite a lot of the press. All of the stories mentioned the book.
www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1480121/Queen-news-prince-harry-meghan-markle-legal-action-royal-family-attacks-sussex-memoir-book[/quote]
Yes they mention the book tangentially.
They don't say what it contains or that it is the reason the Queen was allegedly seeking legal action. In fact the reason for her seeking legal advice is unclear in all reporting.

It makes me wonder what could be more important than legal and FBU activity against her son for child sexual assault.

I would be surprised if she's prioritised Unknown book contents against that

You do understand H&M are required to give 5% via a Foundation every year? It's not charity as UK sees charity, it's US tax planning ultimately

This is very normal in the US. There are hundreds of thousands of charitable foundations giving away billions of dollars. Rockefeller, Gates, Soros, Buffet, Bloomberg, Zuckerberg, and so on.... I'm mystified why anyone thinks this is wrong.

It would be very very odd if they didn't do this.

Seemingly so @KidneyBeans which is a shame as I said in my original post because that matter is far more pressing. It was one of my points.

@MummyJ12

Seemingly so *@KidneyBeans* which is a shame as I said in my original post because that matter is far more pressing. It was one of my points.

Yes, but I still don't see any evidence that the media reports or this discussion are actually driven by anything H&M have actually done

It wouldn't be odd not to do - it would be to their own personal tax disadvantage. So not odd it's how it works. It's as if someone announces publicly they've given the NI contribution to the NHS. You know annoucing you're giving something that's actually a legal requirement of PAYE system etc.

Do you know about taxes in the US marmalade?

Depending on the State they can be horrendous.
Run down charitable foundations all you like... but run them all down. Not just Archewell.

The recipients from their foundation are delighted. That's what matters. That's what's important.

I would suggest Harry writing his memoir @KidneyBeans
I’m not of the opinion that he feeds the press intentionally or that Harry has driven the press (I have not mentioned Meghan at all in this thread) if you have read my original post I did write that he does regardless of his intentions unfortunately.

Yes, but I still don't see any evidence that the media reports or this discussion are actually driven by anything H&M have actually done

They haven't!

It's a convenient newspiece about the Queen supposedly getting legal advise on a book due out in over a year's time and it's obvious it's to divert away from the elephant in the room.
And we all know what this is.

*advice

Fair point about perpetuating the publicity, KidneyBeans, though I'd be surprised if they actually want some of the comment it attracts.
I guess it's like a petulant toddler though, in that even negative attention's better than nothing (and just like the rest of the RF I'd be surprised, too, if they'd be pleased should millions just ignore them)

I liked the thing about Scobie and Manuel though; it put me in mind of when Basil turned him upside down and shook him, which I confess I'd dearly like to do

@Marmaladeagain

It wouldn't be odd not to do - it would be to their own personal tax disadvantage. So not odd it's how it works. It's as if someone announces publicly they've given the NI contribution to the NHS. You know annoucing you're giving something that's actually a legal requirement of PAYE system etc.

Huh? Are you speaking from a position of knowledge as in the rest of your posts?

@Roussette

Gosh. Why should he mention about 5% from charitable foundations going to causes when it is totally the norm in the US and goes without saying. Charitable foundations are a way of life over there.

Flying by private jet, always funny when H&M do that

I find it far more 'funny' when PCharles does it. He lives here and is supported by the taxpayer. H&M don't. PC took helictopers all over the place whilst lecturing people on climate change only recently. There's articles about it out there.

And have a look at this..
PA needed three SUV vehicles up in Balmoral. here That's over 1,000 miles and three gas guzzlers. And another 1,000 miles back to Royal Park.
Let's have some outrage on that.

Laugh at H&M all you like. There are very very many people who don't feel like you do, when the hypocrisy is far closer to home and we pay for it.

It’s not 1000 miles to balmoral from Windsor. Or did you mean two round trips?

@Roussette

Yes, but I still don't see any evidence that the media reports or this discussion are actually driven by anything H&M have actually done

They haven't!

It's a convenient newspiece about the Queen supposedly getting legal advise on a book due out in over a year's time and it's obvious it's to divert away from the elephant in the room.
And we all know what this is.

Everyone sees through this tactic. It simply solidifies the views that the Royal Family as an institution is not fit for modern society.

@Roussette

Yes, but I still don't see any evidence that the media reports or this discussion are actually driven by anything H&M have actually done

They haven't!

It's a convenient newspiece about the Queen supposedly getting legal advise on a book due out in over a year's time and it's obvious it's to divert away from the elephant in the room.
And we all know what this is.

Maybe it is sending out a warning to the guy who keeps adding epilogues to his book.