Shamima Begum’s solicitor just tweeted this

[DesperateForSun]

At least there’s a place that will happily take her now

She wasn’t groomed. She was radicalised. And she completely bought into the culture that radicalised her.

BME girls also introduced their friends as directed by their abusers. @Ozanj

CuriousaboutSamphire an offender who has committed violent crimes will always carry a level of risk when they leave prison. They is why they will have a team working around them to try and prevent this. The test is when they are living in the community

So why do we allow this with men who have committed terrible crimes when they were adults but turn our back on a young woman who was manipulated as a child

This is obviously a sarcastic tweet. I would easily write that tweet if Trump and his team comes back (god forbid).

@Ozanj

*According to her Wikipedia page, she allegedly was an enforcer in the ISIL camps and sewed suicide vests so that they could not be removed without detonation...*

Take that with a pinch of salt. Foreign born jihadis, especially women, were often blamed and ‘othered’ and accused of things it would be impossible for them to do by the Turkish forces that captured them to try and push the blame away from Syrians (with whom many share a cultural bond with).

The fact is that most foreign born ‘jidhadi wives’ became little more than glorified prostitutes; only the ones married to local warlords had any influence and even there they were sidelined because they didn’t know how to cook Syrian food or keep house as well (or provided as much dowry) as the local born wives.

Begum was a child who was groomed and who was then used to groom other children. She can’t be blamed entirely for the things she did - in the same way our society didn’t blame the young white abuse victims who arranged girls for the rochdale rapists.

Completely agree with this.

@Wheretobuy

This is obviously a sarcastic tweet. I would easily write that tweet if Trump and his team comes back (god forbid).

No you wouldn't. It is a glorifying, cheerleading type comment. If he'd sneered and said 'look what's crawled out from under a stone' or similar fine, but this is slap on the back style 'satire'.

Surely solicitors are ill advised to make such sarcastic tweets?

@RhonaRed

Surely solicitors are ill advised to make such sarcastic tweets?

You would think so.

@JaniieJones
How do his tweeter posts come across? I have a really good friend, who is as vocal an anti-Taliban as you would ever know, who posts stuff similar to this abs it’s actually quite funny cos he adds memes etc. So I am not entirely sure.

@OhWhyNot

CuriousaboutSamphire an offender who has committed violent crimes will always carry a level of risk when they leave prison. They is why they will have a team working around them to try and prevent this. The test is when they are living in the community

So why do we allow this with men who have committed terrible crimes when they were adults but turn our back on a young woman who was manipulated as a child

Yes, and...?

Or are you assuming that I think any of that is right, that I don't see the inequity?

I posted that yes, this is, seemingly, what we are doing to this young woman!

I posted that this is human nature, a normal reaction, the flip side of other reactions.

It is also a politically expedient, apparently.

I think you have misunderstood my posts!

Maybe I too used sarcasm... or at least a dry sardony!

@Blossomtoes

She wasn’t groomed. She was radicalised. And she completely bought into the culture that radicalised her.

What’s the difference between grooming for sex and crimes and grooming for sex and crimes?

With the Elon Musk paedophile slur being deemed acceptable do we just have to concede anything can be a joke on Twitter?

U.K., or any other western country, has no right to dump its terrorists on other countries just because they can.
Take care of your own shit and make sure your tax payer pays for them when they are jailed.

@Ozanj

These are excellent sources about what is really happeniny on the ground in these refugee camps.

www.mei.edu/publications/challenge-foreign-fighters-repatriating-and-prosecuting-isis-detainees

icct.nl/app/uploads/2019/10/Women-in-Islamic-State-From-Caliphate-to-Camps.pdf

The latter article is basically what the reality would have been for women in Daesh / Isis. There is no way any woman had the influence it is rumoured they did - it was mostly all propaganda. I work with a charity that is trying to help to repatriate some of these stateless ‘terrorists’. I am working with the family of a girl who was groomed at 10, managed to travel unaccompanied without being challenged at 12 across three countries, and then was basically a prostitute to several jidhadi fighters (she was ‘married’ to them for a night or two at most before they killed themselves in suicide attacks). As part of her duties she was forced to recruit other girls of a similar age by men threatening her children (who have mostly all since died; in the refugee camp). That she isn’t being repatriated is racism - a white European girl in that situation would have easily been brought home. But she’s brown and despite being born in the UK one of her parents wasn’t, so the UK made her stateless. The country where her parent was born has said they won’t have her because the grandparents were Bangladeshi, and Bangladesh won’t have her because she quite rightly isn’t a Bangladeshi citizen and can’t even meet the evidence requirements for Bangladeshi citizenship.

It’s all a giant shitshow.

Thank you for sharing.

@CuriousaboutSamphire

I can't see anything online - can you link it? Google The Law Society and social media guidance update 2021 and you'll get a few hits. Not the actual documents as you have to pay for those, be a member!

I’ve googled this but nothing comes up.

You don’t have an article or anything to link?

@Ozanj

The arrangers of the girls they abused where young white girls (who were groomed themselves) but weren’t blamed or arrested. Begum did a similar thing in Syria but has become stateless.

Understood, thanks.

@Meraas

The Law Society pages!

Not an article. As I aid, paid for, updated resources by The Law Society

I am not paying a couple of hundred pounds so you can have a read

I doubt they would be happy being called boys …

^

But then there’s no proof that lawyers can’t tweet opinions…

That’s shocking. Well no it’s not really you get to my age very little if anything at all shocks you.
Now I’ll be honest I’ve certainly got no love for nor will I lose any sleep over Shamima Begum.
However irregardless of what she’s done isn’t her Solicitor supposed to be on her side. Isn’t he paid to fight her corner.

@Meraas

But then there’s no proof that lawyers can’t tweet opinions…

Huh?

That is such faulty logic! In many ways!