Shamima Begum’s solicitor just tweeted this

[DesperateForSun]

At least there’s a place that will happily take her now

The comment re the Afghan president is probably fair enough. One of the major issues with the government and army was corruption. I'd guess that is what he is referring to.

She was a child when she left. Do we not recognise who easily children can be manipulated. Or does that only apply when we see them only as victims

*How easily

@C8H10N4O2

There are different models of CSE, they are not one group. The 11 year old girl taken into the woods and gang raped by 7 men and then left covered in semen naked on the ground - did not have the same experience as Begum.

@OhWhyNot

She was a child when she left. Do we not recognise who easily children can be manipulated. Or does that only apply when we see them only as victims

Yes we do, of course we do.

But we also recognise the damage of such brainwashing. The potential irreversibility of it.

We look to see contrition. We look to see something that gives us hope. A reason to believe that a person can be rehabilitated.

When we don't see it we remain fearful, angry, resentful.

It's called human nature and is as natural as the urge to forgive and forget regardless of the possible dangers. Two sides of the same human response.

@JudgeJ you show your utter lack of knowledge about the justice system with your ignorant comment.

@Meraas

Why is everyone assuming the tweet isn't sarcastic?

Where's the sarcasm in that? I love a bit of sarcasm and I would have to tie myself in weird knots to see any sarcasm there.

So we just leave her to suffer not return to her home country for fear of what she might do ?

We don’t keep people in prison for fear of what they might do.

@kirinm

The comment re the Afghan president is probably fair enough. One of the major issues with the government and army was corruption. I'd guess that is what he is referring to.

And yet no similar comment when the Taliban fled? I’d guess his loyalties don’t lie with their opponents.

Begum is in a Kurdish jail. If I were locked up abroad eg if I had imported drugs to Brazil the British Government would not pay to get me out. They would just leave me. I don't see why she should be any different. There are lots of people we could rescue abroad but the bottom line is we cannot help most of them.

We wouldn’t be turning our back on a young woman who was manipulated to carry drugs at the age of 15

Where's the sarcasm in that? I love a bit of sarcasm and I would have to tie myself in weird knots to see any sarcasm there.

@knittingaddict If you look at his other Tweets, you'll get a better context. The UK and other international governments have failed on a monumental level, and as a result Afghanistan has been taken over by a disorganised tinpot band of extremists. It's a wry dig at how beyond belief the situation is.

@Meraas

What on earth does Rochdate/Rotherham have to do with Shamima Begum?

The arrangers of the girls they abused where young white girls (who were groomed themselves) but weren’t blamed or arrested. Begum did a similar thing in Syria but has become stateless.

@MaMelon I haven't spent hours going through his posts. Which specific date of the taliban "fleeing" did you expect him to respond to?

If I were locked up abroad eg if I had imported drugs to Brazil the British Government would not pay to get me out. They would just leave me.

That's not true at all. Even adults found guilty of the most despicable crimes overseas are afforded support by the government.

@OhWhyNot

So we just leave her to suffer not return to her home country for fear of what she might do ?

We don’t keep people in prison for fear of what they might do.

It would seem so, yes.

And yes we do!

I truly thought this was fake news but no! He’s claiming it’s ironic - by what definition I don’t know. He’s an “intelligent” man so you have to seriously question his judgement!

@CorrBlimeyGG

If I were locked up abroad eg if I had imported drugs to Brazil the British Government would not pay to get me out. They would just leave me.

That's not true at all. Even adults found guilty of the most despicable crimes overseas are afforded support by the government.

Usually consists of making sure your treated humanly fed watered etc and a representative making sure your guilty of the crime

@Ozanj

*According to her Wikipedia page, she allegedly was an enforcer in the ISIL camps and sewed suicide vests so that they could not be removed without detonation...*

Take that with a pinch of salt. Foreign born jihadis, especially women, were often blamed and ‘othered’ and accused of things it would be impossible for them to do by the Turkish forces that captured them to try and push the blame away from Syrians (with whom many share a cultural bond with).

The fact is that most foreign born ‘jidhadi wives’ became little more than glorified prostitutes; only the ones married to local warlords had any influence and even there they were sidelined because they didn’t know how to cook Syrian food or keep house as well (or provided as much dowry) as the local born wives.

Begum was a child who was groomed and who was then used to groom other children. She can’t be blamed entirely for the things she did - in the same way our society didn’t blame the young white abuse victims who arranged girls for the rochdale rapists.

Her hard faced interview has soon been forgotten, hasn’t it? Her situation bears no comparison to those poor girls in Rochdale. She wasn’t groomed, she was radicalised and completely embraced the Isis culture, she’s openly admitted it.

Having said that, goodness only knows what her lawyer thinks he’s doing. It defies belief.

These are excellent sources about what is really happeniny on the ground in these refugee camps.

www.mei.edu/publications/challenge-foreign-fighters-repatriating-and-prosecuting-isis-detainees

icct.nl/app/uploads/2019/10/Women-in-Islamic-State-From-Caliphate-to-Camps.pdf

The latter article is basically what the reality would have been for women in Daesh / Isis. There is no way any woman had the influence it is rumoured they did - it was mostly all propaganda. I work with a charity that is trying to help to repatriate some of these stateless ‘terrorists’. I am working with the family of a girl who was groomed at 10, managed to travel unaccompanied without being challenged at 12 across three countries, and then was basically a prostitute to several jidhadi fighters (she was ‘married’ to them for a night or two at most before they killed themselves in suicide attacks). As part of her duties she was forced to recruit other girls of a similar age by men threatening her children (who have mostly all since died; in the refugee camp). That she isn’t being repatriated is racism - a white European girl in that situation would have easily been brought home. But she’s brown and despite being born in the UK one of her parents wasn’t, so the UK made her stateless. The country where her parent was born has said they won’t have her because the grandparents were Bangladeshi, and Bangladesh won’t have her because she quite rightly isn’t a Bangladeshi citizen and can’t even meet the evidence requirements for Bangladeshi citizenship.

It’s all a giant shitshow.

She should be brought here here and face justice

It wasn’t only white girls who were sexually exploited - trafficked and raped within the UK. There were and are lots of BME girls who are being abused in exactly the same way as the white girls are/were.

Again - absolutely nothing to do with Begum.
Completely different, it’s just that some people are attempting to weaponize the rape and abuse of girls in order to prove a point.

Gosh.

@IheartJKR

It wasn’t only white girls who were sexually exploited - trafficked and raped within the UK. There were and are lots of BME girls who are being abused in exactly the same way as the white girls are/were.

Again - absolutely nothing to do with Begum.
Completely different, it’s just that some people are attempting to weaponize the rape and abuse of girls in order to prove a point.

No but the arrangers who didn’t face criminal charges were white girls.

Begum was groomed. She had been in communication with two women who then flew her out of the country. These women are classed as ‘unknown’ only to the media but the UK government knows exactly who they are.