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Not wanting fertility tests

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CaitlyntheCactus · 02/08/2021 12:43

Long time lurker, first time poster.

DH and I have been together 10 years, married 6 years, TTC for 3. We are both 33.

Prior to getting engaged we had the usual conversations about kids etc. DH wants 2, I wanted 1, may be 2 depending on how it goes but essentially was just happy to see how things went. I made it clear that I wasn’t someone who wanted to be a parent, whatever the cost. We have a number of friends who have chosen to adopt so alternative ways of becoming parents was also discussed – DH wanted biological children, I was less fussed, but I was very clear that I did not want and would not have fertility treatment.

After 3 years of TTC I have never once POAS. There has been not so much as a hint of a pregnancy. After about 6 months, DH suggested we may be speak to the GP but I was clear I didn’t want to. He’s raised the idea a couple of times since and I have always refused. Last time I suggested he go to the GP, which he did but other than a general check up they refused further testing or referrals unless I would go as well.

I have an underactive thyroid which is appropriately medicated. Last time I had my annual blood test I told them we were TTC and so they did the free T3 etc tests and all came back within optimal range, I did have the details and confirmed that online and was confident everything was where it should be.

DH thinks “they’re only tests” but my argument is that tests lead to treatment – if it discovers I’m not ovulating there’s a pill for that. A pill a will refuse to take. So what is the point of having tests to discover something I am not prepared to do anything about? I think it’s a waste of my time and a waste of NHS resources (these are my own feelings and in no way a reflection of my feeling of others choices).

It all came to a head last night and I have told DH that if he wants children he needs to find someone else – I’d be thrilled to get pregnant, but I think at this point we have to accept it won’t happen naturally for us and for me that is the end of it.

I was considering suggesting that we seek private support to get DH tested so we can be sure the issue doesn’t lie with him?

I’m just very clear I won’t take drugs to get pregnant – other than my thyroxine I haven’t taken any medication in close to 15 years (I’ve had all my vaccines including COVID). I’ve never taken hormonal birth control. I simply do not see the need for most things and I don’t want to start down a path. I think it would be really easy to have some tests, try some medication for a month, just another month and before you know it I’m injecting myself with hormones and such (yes I appreciate there are many many steps between the 2!).

I’ve spent time reading the fertility boards here and I just don’t want that for me. I don’t recognise myself in those women, I don’t want that to happen to my relationship – but I guess it is ayway.

Argh. I just don’t know what to do. I need to cut him free don’t I?

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CaitlyntheCactus · 02/08/2021 13:23

I think my issue with testing is that if it were found I had some issue that could be sorted with a drug or such it would be easy to be swayed in to taking it, "just to try". Once you take a step down a path, it's harder to turn back.

There's also the apportioning blame point - there's something wrong with me, it's my fault etc and then it's my fault and I won't do anything about it when there are things available.

Summerbreeze111 I'm not sure what not medication "quick fixes" you are referring to?

Orf1abc But I was clear prior to marriage (prior to engagement) how I felt about fertility treatments. I haven't deceived anyone. I still want children. I'd be happy to consider adoption.

You won't take medication, but you already do! I take essential medication that prevents serious heart damage. People think thyroxine stops you getting fat, but the reality is that it stops your heart muscles getting damaged and increases your ability to fight infection (back to a normal level). If I didn't take thyroxine I'd be at risk of serious health complications. If I don't take fertility drugs there are no health repercussions for me.

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1940s · 02/08/2021 13:23

I think you 'owe' the super simple tests to your husband so he can understand if he has a chance of biological children with you

cansu · 02/08/2021 13:25

I think you are maybe not being very honest with your dp. It sounds like you don't really want kids. Did you maybe suspect that you had fertility issues before all this??

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GetTaeFuck · 02/08/2021 13:28

It’s alright for the men folk, a quick wank and their portion of tests is done.

Not so for women.

SelkieQualia · 02/08/2021 13:29

@CaitlyntheCactus

Wanttocry Thanks. I do want kids. If I didn't want kids I would say I'm not that fussed etc. I think not wanting kids is a perfectly valid life choice. I do want kids, I just don't want fertility treatment.
If my husband said to me that he wanted kids, but didn't want to do a basic sperm analysis, I would be convinced that he was either future faking or kidding himself. And yes, if I had no kids, I would be cuting him loose.
PattyPan · 02/08/2021 13:31

If you are saying to your DH that he should find someone else to have kids with then you should do the tests so that if it turns out the problem is with him you know there is no need for you to split up!

PicaK · 02/08/2021 13:31

I did the fertility journey - it ripped the heart out of us so I understand your reluctance.
It doesn't matter how reasonable we think you are - it's your relationship at stake here. I'd look at counselling for a few sessions to really talk this through.
Can I also suggest that having been on the fertility threads you also look at the adoption ones and join one on parenting kids with fasd for a few weeks. Adopting and parenting an adopted child are very different things to parenting a birth child.

SW1amp · 02/08/2021 13:31

You clearly don’t want children and are using the tests as a convenient cover for it

At least be honest with your husband so he has got time to evaluate his options and leave while he is still young enough, if that’s what he wants to do

Odile13 · 02/08/2021 13:32

Well it is up to you, you don’t have to do anything you’re uncomfortable with, but if you were my partner I think I’d be annoyed that you weren’t willing to try anything. You don’t have to have fertility treatment like IVF but there are things you could try to help. I’m wondering if you’ve tried ovulation test kits? I used the Clearblue advanced digital OPKs. They gave me an idea of when I was ovulating and made it easier to work out when to have sex. Without that we would have been having sex at the wrong time every month without knowing.

CaitlyntheCactus · 02/08/2021 13:32

@Piapea

Hi OP, I have been trying to get pregnant for about a year and a half and the next step is deeper investigation/treatment. I completely understand if you don't want to get into it, but I am curious as to why fertility investigations or treatments are not for you.
I don't feel they are necessary. I don't think it is an effective use of NHS resources, but even if we went privately I don't feel they are good things to do to your body. I think there are plenty of children who need parents already and I don't think I need a child to have come from me for me to love them.

We've got friends who have had fertility treatment and I'm very supportive of them - it was the right decision for them, but I don't feel it is the right decision for me.

I think some people can have biological children and some can't, and I am in the latter category.

I hadn't considered that tests may take the TTC off the table and give us some clarity in that regard - it is certainly something to think about. It may help us see a clearer path forward. Particularly if I am again clear that any tests would not change my stance on treatment. I'm glad I posted!

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PattyPan · 02/08/2021 13:33

Have you considered that your issues conceiving could be as a result of a health issue you are currently unaware of? Eg PCOS. I’d want to get checked out on that basis anyway.

EL8888 · 02/08/2021 13:33

It’s a personal choice and you feel the way you feel. Male fertility tests are super easy but most of the women’s ones aren’t. Let’s be honest fertility treatments would mainly me on you; side effects, lots of appointments (my record was 5 in a week), lots of forbidden things (lots of them nonsense requests with little evidence base). There were a number of parts to fertility treatment l was unhappy with, a big one was me having to do everything. Sky high expectations of me but low ones of my partner. Everyone ringing me and never him. It’s a lot of faff, to be honest has left me less motivated

@JustLoveYourselfALittle everyone’s experiences are different so it’s not impossible that some people may have had some negative experiences. Plus it worked for you twice, so most likely your perspective would be different anyway

LaBellina · 02/08/2021 13:34

@PattyPan

If you are saying to your DH that he should find someone else to have kids with then you should do the tests so that if it turns out the problem is with him you know there is no need for you to split up!
No she doesn’t. She doesn’t owe anyone any tests that she doesn’t want to undergo. It’s her body!

If her DH wants to check if it’s him having fertility issues, he can undergo tests if he chooses to but the OP should not allow herself to be guilt tripped into something that she clearly does not want.

NiceTwin · 02/08/2021 13:35

Yes, you need to cut him loose so he can find a woman who wants children.

girlmama32 · 02/08/2021 13:36

@PattyPan

Have you considered that your issues conceiving could be as a result of a health issue you are currently unaware of? Eg PCOS. I’d want to get checked out on that basis anyway.
This. There could be a whole range of health issues for both you and your husband that could be stopping you from conceiving naturally that you don't know about. Surely it would be better to know and at least rule it out? Tests don't automatically mean your agreeing to fertility treatment.
Trampolean · 02/08/2021 13:36

I think it's fair enough you don't want to go down that path, it seems logical that he would get tested because presumably if it is him and there's something he could do he would be happy to? Ultimately your body your choice, also his choice if not having biological children is a dealbreaker for him- it's a hard situation to be in.

CaitlyntheCactus · 02/08/2021 13:36

@Odile13

Well it is up to you, you don’t have to do anything you’re uncomfortable with, but if you were my partner I think I’d be annoyed that you weren’t willing to try anything. You don’t have to have fertility treatment like IVF but there are things you could try to help. I’m wondering if you’ve tried ovulation test kits? I used the Clearblue advanced digital OPKs. They gave me an idea of when I was ovulating and made it easier to work out when to have sex. Without that we would have been having sex at the wrong time every month without knowing.
Yes, we used OPKs for about 6 months which I wasn't thrilled about but it showed that I was ovulating when I thought I was. We have a healthy sex life and I found the OPKs put a dampener on things a bit (and obviously didn't help either!) but it is also fairly obvious when I am ovulating so it was nice to know that I was right in judging all the signs. We mutually decided to stop using them.
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1940s · 02/08/2021 13:39

@Trampolean

I think it's fair enough you don't want to go down that path, it seems logical that he would get tested because presumably if it is him and there's something he could do he would be happy to? Ultimately your body your choice, also his choice if not having biological children is a dealbreaker for him- it's a hard situation to be in.
The frustrating this is OP is assuming the 'path'. Getting medically checked over will give a clear picture of what 'may' need to happen. Maybe OP ovulates every few months and OPK's would be key. Maybe OP needs vitamins to help stabilise her cycle. Will you TTC indefinitely? Or will you call it a day DH gets vasectomy 'just incase' and then go down the adoption path? To be 'TTC' indefinitely would be tiresome
PattyPan · 02/08/2021 13:39

@LaBellina I meant it more like, having that knowledge could prevent needlessly ending the marriage. Fair enough if blood tests or whatever are worth ending a marriage over but for most people it isn’t.

CaitlyntheCactus · 02/08/2021 13:41

@PattyPan

Have you considered that your issues conceiving could be as a result of a health issue you are currently unaware of? Eg PCOS. I’d want to get checked out on that basis anyway.
I have none of the indicators for PCOS other than infertility. I'm not sure what other health issues could cause infertility that wouldn't have other symptoms! I'm the picture of health in all other ways.
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Wanttocry · 02/08/2021 13:41

You clearly don’t want children

She’s been having unprotected sex for three years with the aim of getting pregnant.

I’m currently ttc DC2 and it’s taking a lot longer than with DC1. I have no idea what fertility treatment the NHS offers if you already have a child and it doesn’t matter, I won’t be having any. I do not “clearly not want” a second child, I do. I appreciate its different because I do already have a child, but my unwillingness to have treatment doesn’t mean I don’t want a second child anymore than OP’s means she doesn’t want a first.

MySecretHistory · 02/08/2021 13:41

Adoption isn't perfect little babies.

It is children (sometimes babies) who have had tough lives with life long consequences. Fetal alcohol, attachment disorders, neglect. Very very challenging children who need very special parents.

You sound very very naive.

LaBellina · 02/08/2021 13:44

Yes I understand @PattyPan and I agree with your logic to a certain degree. It’s just that the OP is VERY insistent that she doesn’t want any tests (fair enough) so I think it’s up to her DH to do his part of testing as he doesn’t have an issue with it and it’s obviously his marriage as well. Personally if I were the OP, I would probably have agreed to testing and no treatment but the only one who can decide this is her and I think we should not try to change her mind on this. Just my opinion Smile

Wolframhart · 02/08/2021 13:48

You don’t have to agree to a bunch of fertility treatment, but right now you are essentially blocking him from getting a semen analysis. All you have to do for him to get that is go to an appointment and maybe get your blood drawn. You could then cancel any follow ups they schedule for you.

On the whole though, you are totally right, you don’t have to agree to any fertility treatment or testing. If you don’t care that much about having a child, it’s not worth it for you.

CaitlyntheCactus · 02/08/2021 13:48

1940s

I've already said I've used OPKs. I have a very regular cycle with clear indicators of ovulation, though appreciate I may not actually be ovulating. I can set my watch by my periods. I've never been late, never been more than 24 hours early since I first got my period. I've never taken hormonal birth control so have always tracked my periods fairly well.

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