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Kitty Spencer

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lollipoprainbow · 25/07/2021 13:15

It's a rainy Sunday and I'm surrounded by mountains of washing ! Looking at pictures coming out of Rome of Kittys amazing wedding to her rich gorgeous fiancé and feeling a tad envious Envy

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Panickingpavlova · 27/07/2021 11:36

because Diana can't be criticised.

^^I am not a wild Diana fan.

KillingMeDeftly · 27/07/2021 13:05

I didn't think anyone was criticising Diana, it's her wedding dress we're talking about.

Gilmorehill · 27/07/2021 14:11

Fergie made a lovely bride. I recall there were a lot of personal touches on the dress, like their initials being embroidered. I also loved her going into the church with flowers in her hair and coming out with a tiara. Her hair was gorgeous too. It’s sad their marriage didn’t work out. Beatrice and Eugenie were lovely brides. That picture of Beatrice under the arch of flowers- stunning.

diddl · 27/07/2021 14:17

I loved Diana's dress-I think it was a little reminiscent of Queen Victoria's wedding dress.

Redact · 27/07/2021 14:54

I'm not that bothered about wedding dresses but the one that I do remember is Diana's. Now that I'm older and looking back, I think it was beautiful, one of a kind and very memorable. The other one I remember is Meghan's, plain and beautiful, the rest imho were mostly lace and all just look a bit samey.

DysonSphere · 27/07/2021 16:33

I just saw a video of kitty walking in the blue dress (and all the other dresses including a silver spangled thing) with a matching flower embroidered veil/cloak, and I have to say quite seriously, she is simply the most beautiful society bride of the decade. I can't see anyone topping it. Absolutely disney-esque, what my young girl dreams were made of!

Someone said they pity her. Huh! Not me, envy maybe, although I don't. I wish her a settled, comfortable, married life to a man it seems she can depend on (he's not exactly going to get better is he?). Even if she divorces in the next ten years, she'll be an experienced, well travelled, still beautiful and fascinating woman at the start of her peak, and still leave with a handsome sum, regardless of any pre-nup.

I know plenty people married to Dave down the road, who already has a couple children with the first wife, and still struggles to keep it in his trousers while shacking up with the 2nd.

In fact I think divorce is more likely with a man your age if you get together young. You have children together, then around age 40/50 or earlier, it often happens that he leaves you stranded with the kids (or waits for the kids to reach magic number 16+) to rediscover 'freedom' and 'singledom' and a second youth, usually after speaking some 'I love you but you're not the woman I married/love you but not in love with you/I need to find/ have found/a woman who better understands me bolloxs.

Big age gap is a securer bet if it's stability after growing up in a dysfunctional family you're after.

Wheretobuy · 27/07/2021 16:40

@DysonSphere

I just saw a video of kitty walking in the blue dress (and all the other dresses including a silver spangled thing) with a matching flower embroidered veil/cloak, and I have to say quite seriously, she is simply the most beautiful society bride of the decade. I can't see anyone topping it. Absolutely disney-esque, what my young girl dreams were made of!

Someone said they pity her. Huh! Not me, envy maybe, although I don't. I wish her a settled, comfortable, married life to a man it seems she can depend on (he's not exactly going to get better is he?). Even if she divorces in the next ten years, she'll be an experienced, well travelled, still beautiful and fascinating woman at the start of her peak, and still leave with a handsome sum, regardless of any pre-nup.

I know plenty people married to Dave down the road, who already has a couple children with the first wife, and still struggles to keep it in his trousers while shacking up with the 2nd.

In fact I think divorce is more likely with a man your age if you get together young. You have children together, then around age 40/50 or earlier, it often happens that he leaves you stranded with the kids (or waits for the kids to reach magic number 16+) to rediscover 'freedom' and 'singledom' and a second youth, usually after speaking some 'I love you but you're not the woman I married/love you but not in love with you/I need to find/ have found/a woman who better understands me bolloxs.

Big age gap is a securer bet if it's stability after growing up in a dysfunctional family you're after.

Wow. Just wow….
Thewinterofdiscontent · 27/07/2021 16:55

Vile is so overused on MN.
You may not like Diana’s dress but it wasn’t that. Personally I thought it was outstanding. Literally everything about being married to a royal encapsulated in a dress. Over the top, suffocating, beautiful and iconic.

Kitty lives in a different world with different problems. I can’t see it matters who she marries really as long as he has a similar background. Potentially more problems if she married 30 year old Dave the dustman surely.

woodfort · 27/07/2021 17:03

I’m sure the age gap works for them and children having an older father won’t be an issue, they’ll have nannies and lots of help.

I don’t envy her though. When I was younger and starting to date I did find the idea of an older man quite attractive but I am really enjoying growing older with DH and the idea that, if we’re lucky, we’ll have a long, long life together. I’m sure likewise she doesn’t envy me one jot either though…!

BeenAsFarAsMercyAndGrand · 27/07/2021 17:59

children having an older father won’t be an issue, they’ll have nannies and lots of help

I would disagree. No amount of nannies or paid help will comfort the children when they inevitably lose their dad at a fairly young age. He will be doing well if he sees his kids turn 25, let alone 30.

I know that young fathers can die too, but let's face it - it's a lot rarer to lose your father young if he was 30 when you were born. Money really isn't everything.

Panickingpavlova · 27/07/2021 18:01

Dyson

Kitty is an absolute image of perfection and her tale of woe adds to the romance and glamour and... Princess Diana's niece!

Panickingpavlova · 27/07/2021 18:05

The winter, I agree and for her, what happened to her etc it's perfect...

I always find it strange in films, most brides look amazing but when it comes time rl people with all the money struggle to get something unique and beautiful.

I also have really liked the main characters wedding dress in pursuit of love.

ResIpsaLoquiturInterAlia · 27/07/2021 18:12

@BeenAsFarAsMercyAndGrand

children having an older father won’t be an issue, they’ll have nannies and lots of help

I would disagree. No amount of nannies or paid help will comfort the children when they inevitably lose their dad at a fairly young age. He will be doing well if he sees his kids turn 25, let alone 30.

I know that young fathers can die too, but let's face it - it's a lot rarer to lose your father young if he was 30 when you were born. Money really isn't everything.

Absolutely spot on! Will the father be at all weddings of any subsequent children? It’s difficult if that means more 90-100 than say from 50-60 years old.
KillingMeDeftly · 27/07/2021 18:25

Vile is so overused on MN.
You may not like Diana’s dress but it wasn’t that.

Too right @Thewinterofdiscontent. Vile seems an odd term to use for an item of clothing. And love it or hate it, it is one of the most iconic wedding dresses of the 20th century.

ancientgran · 27/07/2021 18:33

@Brefugee

For me the biggest fault with Diana's dress was it wore her, she didn't wear it.

Yep. And completely agree with Fitted Sheet - it was a huge, creased, messy metaphor. I did like the edging lace tound the veil though.

I didn't wear a wedding dress either although I do like looking at them. I hate it when they're "sexy" though. It feels somehow inappropriate. I like it when they have a good v back detail, that's what we see most of 😁 and I really don't like too much see through - Kitty Spencer's bodice is (for me) à bit cheap-looking because of it.

I never wanted a wedding dress, I never did that little girl thing of dressing up in net curtains but I like most wedding dresses. I don't think I've ever been to a wedding and not liked the dress. I suppose in that way Diana's dress really did stand out.
Mandalay246 · 28/07/2021 02:32

Vile is so overused on MN.
You may not like Diana’s dress but it wasn’t that.

Totally agree. What nasty people there are on MN. In real life I have never heard anyone describe someone's wedding dress as "vile". I lived in a little bubble of thinking most people were at heart basically nice until I discovered MN.

avamiah · 28/07/2021 02:44

I say good luck to her as they both look happy and even if they are only in love for a short time well it’s better than “No Time”.

Asherline · 28/07/2021 03:09

@ResIpsaLoquiturInterAlia older dad isn't ideal at all but compares to so many kids now at least they will have a dad to start with. No family is perfect and if they are happy then that's all that matters. I agree ace difference would be weird if she was a child or young adult but she's 30. If she can't get some credit for making her own choices at that age then there's no hope of women supporting other women at all.

Antwerpen · 28/07/2021 04:56

Seeing the pictures of them kissing made me cringe.

MsTSwift · 28/07/2021 06:49

Me too sorry to say.

PearlFriday · 28/07/2021 07:59

It wasnt me that pitied her or said they pitied her, i certainly dont. But her father has behaved terribly towards women of the course of his three (?) marriages.

If he hadnt treated his first wife like a womb on legs and mocked her eating disorder and shamed her in front of his friends and instead put energy in to making the family he was in currently, flourish, then i doubt his daughter would be marrying somebody so much older.

Kitty is beatiful and she could have chosen any man but she chose or felt comfortable with a man older than her father. That isnt usual.

My friend married a man 28 years older than herself. Divorced now of course. In her case she had therapy and understood she didnt owe it to a man to be younger. Her father had a lot to answer for.

Brefugee · 28/07/2021 18:40

Vile seems an odd term to use for an item of clothing.
Blimey, hold on to your knickers lady. I think it is an absolutely ugly dress. It is too big. The fabric is awful, totally unsuited for how it was going to be transported. The sleeves were over the top.

I did like the lace trim round the veil (or was it the train?)

It, for me, encapsulates everything that i loathe about people with inherited wealth and influence. Overblown and ugly.

So sue me. Her tiara was lovely, and she looked very beautiful. But her dress was absolutely meh.

Sorry. I know nobody is allowed to be mean about hallowed Di. But there it is.

Sceptre86 · 28/07/2021 19:13

They have been together for a long time and look very happy so best of luck to them. Would I want to marry a man older than my dad, no but it clearly isn't an issue for her. He is older, cultured and extremely rich and she is very pretty, if they are happy with the trade then fair enough.

Panickingpavlova · 28/07/2021 19:23

I have think there is more to to be the trade, than that ^^Hmm

It's so bizarre how people judge others when it comes to an age gap!!
Kitty does not come from in a grueling country and extremely impoverished background where perhaps she would put money before anything else.

It's like women swoon over muscles!.

Panickingpavlova · 28/07/2021 19:24

Pearl, Earl Spencer is Vile.