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If you have raised a happy teenage girl…

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MoaningMel · 10/07/2021 13:08

How do you think you managed it?

My DD is 9 and I’m so worried about the world she is entering: self-harm, eating disorders, gender issues, school pressure, social media, friends etc etc

How do you equip them to weather these challenges?

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TopTabby · 10/07/2021 15:13

Don't try to ban any social media, it's a massive part of their lives no matter what we think of it.
Teach them not to believe everything they see & be open to things they show you.
It can get hard when you don't agree totally with their opinions but I definitely want them to have opinions
Yes yes to opinionated & loud girls!

FindingMeno · 10/07/2021 15:24

I don't agree with banning social media.
They don't learn to deal with it that way, and its here to stay.
They're not daft and they know all about body image and not believing the representations of bodies and lifestyles they see on SM.

BackforGood · 10/07/2021 15:25

Encouraged and enabled them to belong to things, where they mix with other like minded dc / families.
Sports teams, any sort of hobby or interest group, but the best one is a great Scout group.
They meet all sorts of different people from all different backgrounds.
They spend time in the open air, doing physical stuff. The learn problem solving and they learn resilience through the activity. They are not reliant on only the pool of people in school to have as their friends. They have great role models. There is a lot less time to be spending on social media.

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Howmanysleepsnow · 10/07/2021 15:28

Talk. Let them know what you found hard as a teen. Me and Dd are both shy and shared coping strategies: we both learnt. We’ve watched tv and news etc with slightly older themes all her life, so sexuality/ gender/ mental health have never been taboo.
Both my 14yo and 15yo have always brought their friends issues to me for advice and are confident responding to anything.
DD did self harm once (it’s endemic in school and she copied a friend). We talked about better ways to cope. It hasn’t happened since (3 years ago).

Livingintheclouds · 10/07/2021 15:34

Your kids are going to be who there are despite you, not because of you. Some parents congratulate themselves on their happy adjusted kids, and then have a tearaway and wonder what happened.
Of course educate, but mainly be supportive, nonjudgemental and open to the fact your daughter is not a mini you, is not there to fulfil your ambitions for her, or go through life without making mistakes and not getting in to uncomfortable situations. She will not learn to cope with adulthood without facing some hard issues. All you can do is be there.

violetmonster · 10/07/2021 15:38

My parents were incredibly supportive through my mental health issues and I'm so grateful for them. Having said that, some things they possibly could've done differently (not a criticism, they did the best they could with the knowledge they had):

Open up conversations about mental health early on. I struggled with anxiety and SH from quite a young age and the biggest problem was that I didn't understand what was going on. When I eventually spoke to my mum I found out she'd been through lots of the same things, had counselling etc. She wanted to hide it from me to protect me but in this case it would've helped to have had more open conversations earlier.

Definitely monitor social media/phone use. I was on Instagram/tumblr etc in the early and most toxic days and my parents had no idea what I was looking it. Lots of self harm context, glamorising of mental health issues etc. Def made me worse and gave me ideas

Frenchfancy · 10/07/2021 15:44

Talk to them.
Tell them you are proud of them.
If you can afford it buy them a pony (spending hours an hours at the stables means you don't have to ban social media or limit screen time).

violetmonster · 10/07/2021 15:45

Sports was very important for me, so was being involved in other activities outside of school in general because I struggled with friends at school and that was a one of the main sources of anxiety. Just be there for them as much as you can, open& honest conversations

GoWalkabout · 10/07/2021 15:45

Be an authoritative parent or a liberal one at a push, but not authoritarian or neglectful (even benignly).
You need to BE positive about your own self and body, not just expect them to be about theirs.
And if you are naturally anxious then that needs to change so they don't have to walk on eggshells while you agonise about decisions or act inconsistently or continually verbalise an anxious self-critical monologue that they will internalise.
Have your own goals, study and read and don't be their skivvy. Model that you have value and self worth.
Don't comment about looks or ability except positively or to praise effort and reward successes or commiserate on failures (teaches them that failure is part of the process and not too big a risk to try new things).
Have rules but compromise and grow with them.
Give them permission not to worry about sex and dating too soon.
Don't box them in too early as 'not sporty/academic /arty' give them opportunities to try things and notice what makes them tick and encourage that. (For instance dd1 has learnt a lot of persistence and grit through sports and music, but I need not have worried that dd2 has not been interested in these because suddenly she has learnt to paint and crochet and discovered a lot about herself through doing it (that she is a quick learner, can persist when she cares about something).
Have a calm home environment and always speak respectfully to each other. Allow siblings to sort things out between themselves as far as possible (teaches you how to deal with difficult people and how to manipulate a situation to mutual advantage ie cut a deal!!!)
Strike a balance between protection and watchfulness versus helicoptering, smothering and overprotection. Let them take risks.
But I have to say that all of the above majorly assumes that you have had the luck not to be affected by adversity, bereavements, domestic violence, have had a good upbringing yourself, can regulate your emotions, and make good decisions and have secure housing and employment. Life is not easy and parents are not to blame for all of societies ills or indeed intergenerational trauma. We do our best for the ones we love and they will make their own way in this challenging world.

CettiWarbler · 10/07/2021 15:46

Don't pathologise perfectly normal emotions. Teens throughout time have been very fed up, bored, lethargic, anxious - nowadays people are obsessed with mental health and quick to label their kids as suffering from anxiety and depression.

The number of times posters on here advise OP to take their teen to the GP or insist on a referral to CAMHS makes me roll my eyes. And it takes resources away from those who genuinely need it.

Oh and if you have a happy teen, don't be a smug git. I sometimes think my DD turned out so well in spite of me rather than because!

BumbleMug · 10/07/2021 15:50

Never comment on your body or how you look in front of your DD. Even if you’re not, let them see you being happy with your body and shape. Don’t comment on their bodies either. Good or bad. DD has no body issues and I put a lot down to raising her this way.

Praise how hard they try/work … not the results. We can only control how much effort we put in. And sometimes our best will still be a fail. But if we’ve worked our asses off what more could anyone ask for. Praise them for working hard. Not being clever. DD knows that I’m always proud of her when she works hard. The final grade doesn’t matter.

toastantea · 10/07/2021 15:50

@FindingMeno

You forget all about the " you are their parent not their friend" and be the person they will come to with anything and everything.

100% this

violetmonster · 10/07/2021 15:53

Oh and personally I'd keep them off tiktok as long as possible. It's very hard to monitor and is FULL of a lot of the old tumblr toxic ideas

HeadNorth · 10/07/2021 16:02

I have 2 fabulous teenage/young adult daughters - clever and successful in their very different fields with good friends. I am so lucky and so proud of them. I do think their lovely dad takes equal credit - girls learn how men treat women in relationships from their father more than anyone else. Their dad is lovely, adores them and adores me and I think that is priceless for any girls self-esteem. I think my wonderful, late dad is why I ended up with a similar man - kind, decent, non-macho and caring.

Apart from that, I was never a clingly, controlling parent - I had my own absorbing interests and friends outside the home, so my girls learned to be pretty resilient and easy going - I never had the time or inclination for helicopter parenting. I am not one for marching in and solving problems, but will listen and help them develop solutions/tools to cope.

We have had our share of tragedy and set backs but have always approached them as a family and I think a secure family unit gives girls a great springboard to take on the world.

galaxyfairy · 10/07/2021 16:15

I'm in my early twenties now and had a horrific teenhood. Some things stick out for me:

  • My mum did not want to hear what I had to say, ever, and often made me feel like I wasn't important. Instead of listening, she'd make jokes
  • There were no boundaries. I was allowed to pretty much do what I wanted from about 12. Great when you're a teen, not so great as an adult when you look back to 13, remembering smoking weed with people 5 years older than you!
  • Made no time for me. We never went on daytrips, holidays stopped when I was 13. There was no proper quality time established as a family, which made me feel very alone
  • Maybe a controversial one, but I didn't go to extra-curricular activities as a teen because my mum didn't push me to go. I was badly bullied in school by my year group so made friends with people much older than me rather than exploring activity-based friendships with people of similar ages.

Ultimately, make time for them, be interested in their lives, carve out quality time, set healthy boundaries, and make sure they're interacting with a varied group of people of their own age... and the rest will follow.

Mummyoflittledragon · 10/07/2021 16:51

My dd is 13. She’s had a lot of ups and downs. Things that have been constant in her life are her sporting hobbies. She had a lot and has kept up 2 into secondary. Some parents insist a child has one hobby, whatever that is and I think this is an excellent idea.

I would say talk to your dd a lot and be as positive as possible. Seek intervention early if you think there is an issue, especially an emotional one. Emotionally intelligent people will go further in life.

Don’t expect your child to always be happy. They will not. You will be told they hate you. Don’t take it to heart. A child, who has been given an abundance of love but good boundaries and says this is a confident child. Dd has also told me a couple of times she wants to be adopted - this is because I make her study rather than anything else. Unfortunately she’s bright but very lazy and lacks confidence so takes the easy option and I’m forcing her to get out of her comfort zone. It’s hard for both of us. But like all things this is a phase like many others.

My dd isn’t outspoken. I can’t make her change. But through a series of events with another child, which ended up exploding massively despite her trying to manage the situation, she’s becoming more resilient. (I should have stepped in earlier). So my advice is to meet your DD’s friends and see how they interact. Expect some children to be incredibly demanding, bossy and some manipulative. Don’t take immediately take charge. Parents don’t normally get involved unless it gets too much. So instead of taking charge, take the time to discuss around the issues eg qualities, which make good friends and if you see regular cruel or mean behaviour, ask if they think that behaviour is ok. Children will often put up with a lot and often tell you nothing.

If your dd wants to do something and everyone else is allowed to, don’t take their word for it. But in the same token, do allow her to slowly take more and more risks. My dd has a medical condition and it is hard as it’s very serious if triggered - luckily not often. But I allowed her to take the bus to town with a big group of friends a few weeks ago for example. Children need to learn to look after themselves and not be suddenly plonked in university at 18.

I agree with a balance of social media. She’s on her phone and ipad far too much due to lockdown. Luckily she’s a sociable child so likes to be out a lot. I do allow her on TikTok. Dd is sensible. Unlike her friend, who decided to do a hairspray challenge, where you spray it on the bathroom mirror and set fire to it. Luckily her hair and the house is intact. She also knows I have the right to look at her phone when I want. I know she hates it. But I’m her parent, not her friend.

Give lots of unconditional love and expect a tween to make the most stupid decisions, which she wouldn’t have made 2 years before. The brain is rewiring and they become like headless chickens. Dd is pushing past that slowly now. And due to the rewiring she and her friends have lost the ability to empathise. It’s developmental. So above all, ensure your mental health is good to support your child.

barnanabas · 10/07/2021 16:59

This is an interesting thread.

I have three young/mid teens (2 daughters). Eldest, especially, is sailing through her teens so far. I'm not claiming any personal credit for it really, she has always been a happy, enthusiastic, self-assured sort of person and that hasn't changed as she's got older.

Stuff we have consciously tried to do and largely do well:

Support and facilitate sports/interests
Welcomed friends into the house/hosted sleepovers/given lifts etc etc
Consciously carved out one-to-one time for each parent with each kid. Some of it happens with car journeys/dog walks etc. Pre-Covid one of us would take one of them out for dinner once a month or so (so each kid went out with each parent over the year).
Do things as a family - small things, e.g. games, and bigger things, e.g. days out, camping.
Made it clear we will try to help, not judge, and tried to listen to and support problems calmly.
Both do regular exercise and kids see us taking care of our health. I never say anything negative about my weight/appearance etc.

Stuff we're not doing quite so well on:

Inter-sibling relationships are difficult on and off. One of them is much more aggressive/confrontational than the others, so the dynamics can be difficult.
Not bringing too many of our own anxieties to their problems. Obviously we try to manage this as well as we can, and being aware of it is a good thing. I had a difficult time as an early teenager with friendships and have to work at not getting worried if they're not seeming sociable and socially happy.

I think, while being a good enough, kind, supportive parent is obviously very important, that's only one part of a complex picture of how happy teenagers are though.

ahoyshipmates · 10/07/2021 17:04

@MoaningMel

How do you think you managed it?

My DD is 9 and I’m so worried about the world she is entering: self-harm, eating disorders, gender issues, school pressure, social media, friends etc etc

How do you equip them to weather these challenges?

Funnily enough, by just talking to her about it. I told her that I'd been a teenager once so although she might not think so right now, I actually did understand what it was like.

We talked about all those things, not all at once obviously but gradually over a long period of time. What helped, strangely, was that she did an extra-curricular activity which meant that we spent several hours a week in the car together. It's a lot easier to discuss these things when you are sitting side by side in a car in the dark, rather than facing one another.

I told her about my schoolfriend who got pregnant at 13. About my work colleague who developed anorexia and eventually died from it. That you don't have to do what boys want you to do. All sorts of things.

I told her that no matter what happened, no matter what it was, she could talk to me about anything and I would listen and do my best to help if she needed it.

AlpineBell · 10/07/2021 17:05

My two seem happy. They are 14 and 16. I get on well with them and they are happy at school. (Dd1 wasn't so much at primary school) That's about it really.

Hoppinggreen · 10/07/2021 17:07

Mine is ok but did struggle with anxiety around school. I probably did a lot wrong but the things I think we did right were.
Always say goodnight and love you
Be unshockable
Apologise if you are wrong
Show them you always have their back
Listen REALLY listen
Don’t invalidate their feelings (even if secretly you think they are talking rubbish)
Don’t say no just for the sake of it
Be a parent not a friend

Foobydoo · 10/07/2021 17:15

I don't think there is such a thingGrin
I had a bad time with dd1 but we got through it and she is a lovely girl now at 17 although im not sure I'd call her happyGrin
All her friends had issues in their own way. You wouldn't know from Facebook et al though as they all seem to have perfect lives but they have all had their ups and downs in private.
You just have to be there to guide them through it all. Love them unconditionally and make sure they know that. Keep the lines of communication open so that they know they can come to you about anything. Pick your battles and know when to bite your tongue.
Good luck, I have a nine year old too and wish she could stay this age.

cannotchange · 10/07/2021 17:25

My DD 13 has had issues, but since everything opening up again we've really pushed sport clubs. She has got some amazing coaches at swimming and had some really great feedback today- she came home walking about 2 foot taller , full of energy and positivity. She's also mad about netball and at the moment is at these clubs nearly every day - keeps her going after hards days at school.
As to be expected girls' sport at school is rubbish and school seems to be the source of all her negativity.

IWentAwayIStayedAway · 10/07/2021 17:34

Came on to say sport like so many other posters. Truly believe that has given a confidence. We spend time together, out for a walk, trip to shops for food, eat together. Also has chores. No phones or devices in bedroom. All seems to be working so far 🤞

CheddarGorge · 10/07/2021 17:34

Remove tik tok or at best severely limit it

Sunshinedrops85 · 10/07/2021 17:35

I had a lot of trouble as a child. I'd advise:

Listening more.
Time for just the two of you.
Encourage friends outside of school.
Take self harm/ mental health issues seriously. Talk about feeling sad etc.

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