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I'll take your Chester draws and I'll raise you a...

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smellyjellycopter · 14/06/2021 17:18

Wallah! It's the first time I've seen voilà written this way. But when I think about it, it seems like a really obvious thing to do so I wonder how common it is.
Is it a "thing" that I've just missed before now?

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BIWI · 17/06/2021 15:23

I think it's indicative of the fact that

a) a lot of people clearly don't read much

and/or

b) the things they're reading are most likely to be posts on social media, where all manner of spellings will abound!

FayCarew · 17/06/2021 15:35

Did you mean all manor of...?

Reallyreallyborednow · 17/06/2021 15:39

Is amazing how many people think being able to spell matters more than having the good manners not to criticise other people's errors

I worry sometimes that we are actually going to lose the written word in some parts of society.

Some things I see on social media are bordering illiterate, and it takes me so long to work out the meaning I lose the will. I know some people will have dyslexia or other learning difficulties, and that language is organic and evolves, but it’s so many people and so many errors.

At work we get people using this on official and legal documents, and often have to take members of staff aside and explain that the customer was not “high rate”. If we can’t correct people for fear of looking petty or “grammar nazi” i do wonder how things will end up.

BIWI · 17/06/2021 15:46

@FayCarew

Did you mean all manor of...?
Grin
Amdone123 · 17/06/2021 15:47

I agree with pp, especially when we have teachers, as a pp stated, saying her child won't ' except' help. That is dreadful.
I once worked with a teacher who wrote Pauls' Behaviour Book, and it was so embarrassing for me to correct her. I shouldn't have had to !

FayCarew · 17/06/2021 15:53

It's communication. If you can't spell it weakens your message.

Using 'high rate' for 'irate' shows ignorance.

Planttrees · 17/06/2021 16:41

@Benjispruce3

A colleague used to say ‘As dead as a dormouse.’
I don't think there is anything wrong with 'as dead as a dormouse'. Dormice hibernate so appear quite 'dead' if found in the winter. I assume that is where the saying came from.
CaptainMyCaptain · 17/06/2021 17:21

@FayCarew

Did you mean all manor of...?
'All manner of' is correct.
FayCarew · 17/06/2021 17:48

@CaptainMyCaptain, it was a joke. Smile
@PlantTrees, the expression is 'As dead as a doornail'.

converseandjeans · 17/06/2021 17:52

Here here instead of hear hear

FayCarew · 17/06/2021 17:54

Brassic for skint. It's boracic

Bloodypunkrockers · 17/06/2021 17:58

@Bluedeblue

The linguist Arnold Zwicky hypothesises that it's what non-French speakers would automatically write if they knew the word aurally but not in writing

aurally Oh, the irony!

What's the irony here?
Puffalicious · 17/06/2021 18:04

@MasterBeth

I think they used to refer to Dux in The Beano when I was small. I remember trying to work out what it meant. I thought it was just something grown-up that I didn’t understand but now I know it was something Scottish I didn’t understand, like a fish supper!
GrinGrinGrin Fish suppers are the best!
Puffalicious · 17/06/2021 18:06

@RaraRachael

Puffalicious when I was little we even had Primary School duxes. We still have a secondary one at our local schools. I remember my MiL being very impressed because her relatives' kids went to Peterhead Academy. She thought it was a posh school - not just another name for a secondary.

This morning I read about a teacher asking for information on "principle" teacher posts Hmm. The worrying thing is that they will probably be a head teacher in a few years. Heaven help Scottish education.

I cover my face in shame when I see these errors. I'm an English teacher, so it really grates. I've been known to change signs/ notices when I'm out and about, much to the mortification of my DC.Grin
CaptainMyCaptain · 17/06/2021 18:24

Oops sorry @FayCarew

Amdone123 · 17/06/2021 18:36

@Puffalicious, I do this. Apostrophes in plurals is one of my major bugbears, so when I see Apple's and Pear's for sale outside greengrocers, I surreptitiously rub out the apostrophes.

RaraRachael · 17/06/2021 18:45

My friend, also a teacher was in a local greengrocer's shop and pointed out to him that his sign that read "tattie's" was incorrect- meaning the apostrophe was unnecessary. He changed it to "potatoe's" Grin

Amdone123 · 17/06/2021 19:04

@RaraRachael, Smile

FayCarew · 17/06/2021 19:21

@CaptainMyCaptain, apology excepted ducks to avoid whatever you might throw at me

I have no manors.

Puffalicious · 17/06/2021 19:22

[quote Amdone123]@Puffalicious, I do this. Apostrophes in plurals is one of my major bugbears, so when I see Apple's and Pear's for sale outside greengrocers, I surreptitiously rub out the apostrophes.[/quote]
Snap! In secret.

Puffalicious · 17/06/2021 19:23

@RaraRachael

My friend, also a teacher was in a local greengrocer's shop and pointed out to him that his sign that read "tattie's" was incorrect- meaning the apostrophe was unnecessary. He changed it to "potatoe's" Grin
🙈🙈🙈
RaraRachael · 17/06/2021 21:25

My MiL had no idea of the proper use of apostrophe. She said that if wasn't sure, she would put them into words anyway.
if in doubt, leave it out!

Also people who think the correct word is "pronounciation" Confused

iklboo · 17/06/2021 21:26

A shop near us (now defunct) sold

Bed's Sofa's Mattresse's

Mamanyt · 17/06/2021 21:48

Actually read this in a published book not long ago..."She was to the manner born." SURELY some editor should have caught this and changed it "to the manor born."

LittleDidSheKnow · 17/06/2021 22:04

@Mamanyt

Actually read this in a published book not long ago..."She was to the manner born." SURELY some editor should have caught this and changed it "to the manor born."
No! To the manner born is the correct/original iteration of this phrase. The “manor” version was a pun.