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Boris and Carrie married?

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DonkeysNotDisney · 29/05/2021 19:57

Anyone else seen the news?? Another baby on the way, relationship on the rocks, or good old fashioned age gap love?

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JinglingHellsBells · 30/05/2021 09:27

Going against the trend here.

I think if they do split, Carrie will be the one to leave him (and not because of his philandering.)

His appeal will wear thin when he's not PM and she doesn't have the 'status' and 'power' she craves by the association.

At 50 she will be a relatively young woman and he will be mid 70s.

I think her head has been turned by power (his) and she's also optimistic that she can be the 'one' to make him stay faithful within a marriage.

IrishMumInLondon2020 · 30/05/2021 09:30

@Tubbs99

Carrie has an “interesting” background. Turns out she is the product of an affair between her mother Josephine McAfee and Matthew Symonds. Her mother was working at The Independant and he co-founded it. He was also married with kids at the time. Matthew is the illegitimate son of John Bevan who edited the Guardian. Matthew’s mother Anne Symonds is also believed to be the illegitimate daughter of Prime Minister Asquith. Christ no wonder her morals are iffy with a background like that. Guess it’s in the genes.

Ugh. Whatever about the rights and wrongs of the PM, connecting ‘illegitimacy’ with poor morals is really distasteful. Outdated and unpleasant.

Lucyh179 · 30/05/2021 09:38

@Evenstar

She is Catholic and baby was baptised Catholic, but still surprised that someone divorced was allowed to marry in Westminster Cathedral

Wouldn't look very good if the Christian church were condemning divorced people.

LemonRoses · 30/05/2021 09:38

If his previous weddings were ‘not before God’ ie not in a Christian church, the Catholic Church doesn’t recognise them, so no need for annulment.
My SIL remarried in a Catholic Cathedral, having divorced. She had only married in a registry office previously so it wasn’t considered a marriage. My MIL was widowed and remarried to a man who had a church wedding before he was divorced by his first wife, so could only have a blessing.

The Catholic thing is a diversion.

Lucyh179 · 30/05/2021 09:40

@ChicChaos

I'm finding it hard to believe that someone could get married for a third time in a Catholic Cathedral.

Westminster is not catholic!

Lucyh179 · 30/05/2021 09:42

@BedknobsNoBroomsticks

I think Carrie knows what she is doing. She seems like she is in control of their relationship and the country.

'Of the country' that sounds a little mad. Of course she isn't.

Leonardsgirl · 30/05/2021 09:43

Lucyh1979 Westminster Cathedral is a Roman Catholic cathedral.

Gladimnotcampinginthisweather · 30/05/2021 09:43

It isn't fair to bring up her background.
Westminster Cathedral is Catholic, Westminster Abbey is C of E. Allegedly they got married in
the Catholic one.

littlebillie · 30/05/2021 09:47

@Leonardsgirl

Lucyh1979 Westminster Cathedral is a Roman Catholic cathedral.

I've been to a wedding at the Catholic cathedral, it is a beautiful church

campion · 30/05/2021 09:52

Catholicism doesn't come out looking great here.

So all his previous promises are to be disregarded because they weren't Catholic ones.What hypocrisy.

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DonkeysNotDisney · 30/05/2021 09:56

@Covidmary

I suspect we could break this down into more than one dead cat, the Catholic thing keeping everyone occupied mostly.

But a PR push in June with the PM “celebrating with the Nation” rather than slinking under the wire in May would be worrying me if I had a major event planned in July or August.

This, what a great PR opportunity missed, Boris is hardly shy and retiring, he would have seen it as a big show of how we've beaten covid with the vaccine.

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SoupDragon · 30/05/2021 09:56

Wouldn't look very good if the Christian church were condemning divorced people.

But they do. Along with all sorts of other sections of humanity too.

LemonRoses · 30/05/2021 09:56

@campion

Catholicism doesn't come out looking great here.

So all his previous promises are to be disregarded because they weren't Catholic ones.What hypocrisy.

Not sure it reflects on Catholicism at all. Canon law is Canon law.

The rules apply to everyone equally - catholic literally means universal.

The rules apply because a marriage is only a marriage if the promises are made before God. That’s because marriage is a sacrament, not a legal contract. A registrar cannot oversee a sacrament.

SeaWitchly · 30/05/2021 09:56

Who cares?
They are both disgusting people who I wish would bugger off on a never-ending honeymoon on some billionaire's private island.

Peregrina · 30/05/2021 09:57

Westminster Cathedral is the one built of red and yellow bricks.

PhilCornwall1 · 30/05/2021 09:58

@SeaWitchly

Who cares? They are both disgusting people who I wish would bugger off on a never-ending honeymoon on some billionaire's private island.

Sadly, he's buggering off down here in a couple of weeks.

herecomesthsun · 30/05/2021 09:59

@SoupDragon

Wouldn't look very good if the Christian church were condemning divorced people.

But they do. Along with all sorts of other sections of humanity too.

It doesn't condemn divorced people, it just doesn't let them remarry in church (normally) as the traditional view is that they are already married.

Fine to be more liberal than that.

Not fine to bend the rules just for Boris.

LemonRoses · 30/05/2021 09:59

It’s not about condemning divorced people. It’s about vows being made before God being a lifelong, sacramental commitment. The Catholic Churches position is to not judge the person — that is very different from not upholding their beliefs that vows cannot be broken without mortal sin.

Leonardsgirl · 30/05/2021 10:00

Littlebillie I agree, it's a beautiful church. Almost always quiet and a very calming place to escape the crowds around Westminster. And it has a nice little cafe.

EsmaCannonball · 30/05/2021 10:08

I think Carrie Symonds went into this whole relationship with her eyes wide open and has decided the trade-off of money and fame is worth marrying a philanderer who wouldn't let your cancer stop him cheating on you and whose amount of offspring is rather uncertain.

I think this is probably the biggest dead cat I have ever witnessed. I presume they knew the Dominic Cummings testimony was coming enough in advance to ensure it wasn't dominating the Sundays. Or is there something bigger being covered up?

Anyway, good luck to her. She has her faults but she was good on the John Worboys thing, I found out about monkey slave labour because of her and am now careful about what I buy, and if newspapers claimed I was ditching my dog, I would write mad, angry letters to them too.

lazylump72 · 30/05/2021 10:11

religion money power...all twisted together ..the irony!

CarolandDarryl · 30/05/2021 10:15

Ugh just seen their wedding pic. He hasn’t even bothered to brush his hair for that.

MaggieFS · 30/05/2021 10:15

Further to my earlier post about surely they would have had banns read; DH has had to remind me that we didn't have any banns read (church was no longer a regularly used parish church so we had a special licence). Ah well. Eat humble pie on that one!

Peregrina · 30/05/2021 10:20

Oh dear, the hypocrisy of it all. Carrie wearing pure virginal white and Johnson making vows to be faithful.

herecomesthsun · 30/05/2021 10:20

@JinglingHellsBells