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I think harry is really brave

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ssd · 21/05/2021 09:18

Talking about his mental health. Starting talking is the hardest bit. I have to start the conversation and i cant. And i can usually talk for Britain.
I admire him.

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InFiveMins · 21/05/2021 20:30

He is awful. Never stops moaning and trying to create drama and gossip. The sooner the world stops giving him and his dreadful wife the attention they clearly so desperately crave so that they crawl away into the obscurity they were apparently so desperate to have, the better.

ScienceSensibility · 21/05/2021 20:31

@ajandjjmum

It looks like the thing Harry inherited from his Mum was paranoia - but hers was more understandable in the light of the BBC enquiry.

With limited exceptions, most of the country was thrilled he'd found 'the one' and Meghan was welcomed with open arms. It was her/their actions that changed that - the colour of her skin was and is irrelevant.

Excellently put.

Her grandiose behaviour and thinking the rules would bend for her have led to her reputation and fall in popularity.

She is using racism to cover for her own conduct. She only ever had the dollar signs in her eyes. So much more to come out...
They are both relying on the RF’s discretion. The RF would never engage in a public mud slinging exercise the way H and his wife are.

Hope that doesn’t come back to bite them, especially if they keep pissing William off. Future King and holder of the purse strings...

Puzzledandpissedoff · 21/05/2021 20:32

If the other royals want to speak (their minds) they are welcome to follow suit

Somehow I don't think they'll do that; there's very little I admire the RF for, but for once I think they've got it right in keeping quiet since anything they say may just bring more outbursts from LA

In any case they hardly need to offer "their side" when Harry damages his credibility further with every appearance

Bluntness100 · 21/05/2021 20:36

The other royals won’t say anything, for two main reasons.

It will just escalate it and make it worse. It would be undignified to start a public media war like this with Harry.

They very likely love him and don’t want to make it worse.

So they won’t engage. They will maintain a dignified silence and go about their jobs.

And quite frankly I think that’s the right decision.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 21/05/2021 20:39

I just think there's a lot we don't know about why exactly he seems to be so done with the RF/ the firm

I wouldn't worry - at the rate he's going, and given time, there probably won't be much left undisclosed

The RF would never engage in a public mud slinging exercise the way H and his wife are

Not in public, no, but they're not above "letting things be known" through sources
I wouldn't expect this to happen yet, but if god forbid H&M split and there's a wish to rehabilitate Harry, things might look rather different

TruelyStruttingHotpants · 21/05/2021 20:40

@supermoonrising

That's right it is oblivious just about the colour of her skin nothing else. Thank you for such a insightful post. Obviously we are all a bunch of racists in the UK.

I dont think so at all. I think the majority are fairly tolerant - "tolerant" being the correct word here. Every country has issues with racism. But I do think the UK has deceived itself about how non-racist it is. Eg,
"84% of BAME Britons still think Britain is very or somewhat racist."
yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/articles-reports/2020/06/26/nine-ten-bame-britons-think-racism-exists-same-lev

Perhaps they're all wrong.

I am in a ethnic minorities that most people don't think is BAME. Therefore get all the racism but people tell us not to complain. So have no problem with that statistic.

What I am saying is maybe people just don't like the woman. That is equally as likely as people being racist. I don't like her since the Oprah interview. I had no problem with her before that. People have opinions that don't necessarily have anything to do with skin colour.

Jellykat · 21/05/2021 20:43

H & M left the UK because things were so awful, yet they keep poking at it all with a long sharp stick.. reckon they should just shut the fuck up and get on with their lives now..
I feel so sorry for William, at the end of the day they're brothers regardless of anything else.

Bluntness100 · 21/05/2021 20:44

Harry has said in his latest interview he had to make rhe decision to leave as Meghan was so unhappy she was suicidal, this is what drove him he had no other option when she informed him it was now so bad she was driven to contemplating suicide. I suspect she was going and he either went too or she went with Archie.

Why he’s now behaving as he is, I think is becayse he feels it got to this stage due to the lack of support he felt Meghan was given. So his hand was forced to leave and now he’s in this position. So I think it’s anger and resentment that it came to this.

It seems they wanted to walk their own path as royals, and a lot of what they wanted was not permitted, as it was effectively monetising the royal brand. They were expected to behave a certain way and do certain duties, and the unhappiness set in, and it spiralled, with the negative feedback in the media, it just spiralled down to this.

osbertthesyrianhamster · 21/05/2021 20:48

Think you are spot on there, Bluntness.

TruelyStruttingHotpants · 21/05/2021 20:53

Good post Bluntness

amusedtodeath1 · 21/05/2021 20:57

I know there has been some awful racist things said about MM and I'm sorry she has to deal with that but I haven't seen anything like the amount of racism aimed at MM that is talked about here. Don't get me wrong, any racism is too much, but I don't think that it's at the heart of why most people find it hard to like her.

We are hearing about a very different side to MM from H than we have ever seen. If she really was that upset about the Interview coming out (quite apart from the fact that knowing MM has been unwell and is pregnant after miscarrying it seems like very stupid timing) then that's not at all how she comes across. Now I praise her self control in keeping that from showing, but in doing so it portrays someone who isn't struggling. It's the same with H to a degree. If they want the public to believe them and support them it has to be/feel honest. So far the things they're saying are erratic, sometimes clearly at odds with their own previous statements. All this has nothing to do with racism, although I don't doubt some assholes will use it to justify their racist agenda, most people just can't reconcile their words with their behaviour.

They're clearly both struggling with MH issues and it's appalling that people are using them for a story, but by the same token it's appalling that H is (or is allowing) his family to be used for a good story as well.

Staffy1 · 21/05/2021 21:00

They really seem to lack self awareness. Meghan disowned her father for embarrassing her publicly, in fact she seemed to have disowned him before that but we heard through her friends there was no chance of reconciliation after the press interviews. But now they're doing the same thing to Harry's family and expecting them to try and reconcile. It seems to be all about them and their feelings, stuff anyone else.

LittleBearPad · 21/05/2021 21:04

'I like to think that we were able to speak truths in the most compassionate way possible, therefore leaving an opening for reconciliation and healing' Harry about the Oprah interview. He has got himself in a mess

Fishandhips · 21/05/2021 21:04

@Bluntness100

Harry has said in his latest interview he had to make rhe decision to leave as Meghan was so unhappy she was suicidal, this is what drove him he had no other option when she informed him it was now so bad she was driven to contemplating suicide. I suspect she was going and he either went too or she went with Archie.

Why he’s now behaving as he is, I think is becayse he feels it got to this stage due to the lack of support he felt Meghan was given. So his hand was forced to leave and now he’s in this position. So I think it’s anger and resentment that it came to this.

It seems they wanted to walk their own path as royals, and a lot of what they wanted was not permitted, as it was effectively monetising the royal brand. They were expected to behave a certain way and do certain duties, and the unhappiness set in, and it spiralled, with the negative feedback in the media, it just spiralled down to this.

Never thought about it that way before, but makes a lot of sense.
Badpicknic · 21/05/2021 21:05

I’m surprised he’s not spoke about Prince Andrew. Maybe that will be in the sequel when this lot of money runs out.

Tbf I bet the RF are tenderhooks.

CathyorClaire · 21/05/2021 21:06

I think Harry is angry at certain things

Basically just being the spare then not getting the cake he demanded and eating it.

Mrsjayy · 21/05/2021 21:06

I do agree about their.lack of self awarenesss They really are wrapped up in an ego bubble. US media lap all that up though. Harry and Meghan are a refreshing change from the kardashians somebody else's "drama" to document.

thegreylady · 21/05/2021 21:07

I think he is courting the media he purports to despise.

Badpicknic · 21/05/2021 21:07

In any case they hardly need to offer "their side" when Harry damages his credibility further with every appearance

Yep

osbertthesyrianhamster · 21/05/2021 21:08

@CathyorClaire

I think Harry is angry at certain things

Basically just being the spare then not getting the cake he demanded and eating it.

That, too.
FrippEnos · 21/05/2021 21:09

@Badpicknic

I’m surprised he’s not spoke about Prince Andrew. Maybe that will be in the sequel when this lot of money runs out.

Tbf I bet the RF are tenderhooks.

Why would Harry speak about Andrew?

It would take the spotlight off him.

Myphone · 21/05/2021 21:12

I predict Thomas Markle is going to do an interview and speak openly about his mental health.

I don’t believe what Harry is doing is brave. Of all the time he has in his life to do these interviews, he has chosen it when he has a toddler, during a loss and pregnancy knowing his wife suffered suicidal thoughts in her first pregnancy. How on earth is that positive? It seems reckless and doesn’t make sense.

amusedtodeath1 · 21/05/2021 21:12

Yeah, part of me thinks H thought that once everyone had heard his story that the RF would either realise how badly treated they were and apologize, take them back with open arms, or that the public would shame them into it. I don't think he realised that people would see fault on all sides.

Doing all this, now after PP death and whilst he was ill (at 99 any illness, especially one that needs hospitalisation, is life threatening), seems incredibly cruel. Losing a loved one is always painful whoever you are and however old they are.

I just don't know what H&M are thinking ATM. Even if their claims were totally accurate presenting them at this time will not paint them in a good light.

dancealittleclosertome · 21/05/2021 21:13

As an aside, Harry has definitely grown more hair since he moved to California. His receding temples have disappeared it seems from the latest pics, but you can't see his pate so hard to compare that. Must be from lack of stress.

osbertthesyrianhamster · 21/05/2021 21:16

Have you ever met people who make up their own script about what happened, I mean, they can be out in space with it, it's so far-fetched, and they totally believe it, even when multiple others who were there remember or did no such thing? That's what H&M remind me of. They come out with stuff and I'll bet the rest of the people who were actually there are like, 'WTF? When did that happen?'

And because it's actually been proven that some of what they've stated is a flat out lie, it's hard to find them believable at all, much less sincere.