I think harry is really brave

[ssd]

Talking about his mental health. Starting talking is the hardest bit. I have to start the conversation and i cant. And i can usually talk for Britain.
I admire him.

@Whythesadface

Meghan wanted to commit suicide, but decided not to as he didn't deserve to lose another female in his life. Isn't this what abusers do to their victim. How many abusive partners say they will kill themselves, but never meant it. Also praying on Harry's worse moment in his life, and the person abusing him like this is his wife.

What a disgusting thing to say. So someone suicidal is a manipulative abuser now are they? Jeez. 🙄

I think it’s unhealthy and undignified to work through it in public. I really hope he doesn’t come to regret it.

I really hope Harry’s marriage is very strong and is going to last for the next 40/50 years because I think he has burnt his boats with the rest of his family.

Quite intentionally, clearly. It's a toxic institution and both Diana and Harry have baulked and bolted. It's an outdated institution and I think it's time has come.

All the gleeful predictions that his marriage won't last - no-one here has the remotest idea.

I think that living (and grieving - at a young age) in full view of the public and media, it's not that surprising that he has had (continues to have) mental health problems
However he is very aware of how the media can make or break how you are perceived and twist or spin stories to fit their own narrative.
He has been (understandably) angry and upset at the media treatment, harassment and portrayal of his mother, and now his wife.
...but he needs the same media to get his own story across...
...And while the original interviewer might be sympathetic to "his truth" and his journey, or story., he cant control what slant or spin any other news outlets will put on it...hence him coming across as whinging.

I find them both a bit annoying but admire him for leaving. It must have been very hard. I can’t begin to imagine what it must be like to grow up in that family. I feel for them both and am surprised by the response on MN.

@NautaOcts

I'm not sure he is working it through in public so much as simply calling out the RF the way Diana did. Seems to me he's worked through it already and come to his own conclusions.

This is the inevitable consequence of the way the RF and Charles treated Diana and its personal impact on Harry.

I truly hope that his marriage is enduring. I really do. He may be very lonely if it does not.

And as others have pointed out, he will not hold the same cards as his wife now holds.

For all sorts of reasons, he could be tying himself to the shoogliest of pegs.

I agree abusers often threaten suicide to manipulate the victim. Not saying she is an abuser at all but it is a common thing to happen. My abusive ex husband would do this. If you asked women in a shelter I reckon a lot of them would say this was something there partner would do.

@ssd I disagree. He's not talking to the media, he's talking to the public, and the public are bored of the whining and are turning on him. How's that going to help his mental health?

@TruelyStruttingHotpants

I agree abusers often threaten suicide to manipulate the victim. Not saying she is an abuser at all but it is a common thing to happen. My abusive ex husband would do this. If you asked women in a shelter I reckon a lot of them would say this was something there partner would do.

Ludicrous.

The entire country was bitching about her - mainstream media, social media, endless bitchy hater threads on here like this one.

She had arrived in a country hoping for a new life.

Wouldn't you feel depressed in that circumstance?

Most women on here can't cope with criticism from their MIL let alone being hated on by a whole country.

I think Megan and Harry are victims of a ridiculous notion that we still need a royal family.

I don't know if he is right or wrong to speak to the media about private matters but I do know I'm not interested in listening.

Money seems so horribly tied up in everything they do. I really judge everyone who hangs on to lots of money, whether they were born into it, earned it or won it. I couldn't live with my millions knowing there are children sleeping at the side of the road in India.

@Polkadots2021

I agree. Leaving the Firm was the only logical way to stop history repeating itself - historical analysis of his situation made that clear. It was very brave because everyone knows how savage they are to anyone that doesn't tow the line. The opportunists & acolytes around them have spawned their own profitable cottage industry that now consists of nothing more than spouting bile against Harry, Meghan & Archie and that will never go away.

He's a great family man doing what he's done & more importantly his life isn't the Truman Show vomited up daily for our entertainment daily. He lost his beloved mum to this ridiculous circus & did the only rational thing-leave & then speak out. He's just a young guy with a family and people need to lay off.

The thing is they didn't want to leave the RF did they?

They wanted all the benefits of being royal without any of the shitty bits.

It's notable that it's only since their demands weren't met that demeanour towards the RF changed with loaded press releases and woe is me speeches.

In their original "manifesto" they were full of praise for HMQ and stressed wanting to support her work and continue being members of a family that is apparently "now" utterly toxic.

This whole charade smacks of them trying to justify their behaviour as would a child "so and so made me do it".

Time and again what they say and what they do are very different and what they say has been on far too many occasions been untrue, a misrepresentation of the truth or things that really beggar credibility.

I don't doubt for one minute that life in the RF, whilst offering great privilege can be very hard. I absolutely accept that M was the recipient of vile racism by the press.

I don't blame them for wanting a different life but that doesn't mean I think the manner in which they've decided to achieve that reflects well on their characters.

@PandaLady I was interested in a head of state discussion but didn't know where to put it.

@TatianaBis Totally agree with you there. Also I have always felt the fact she was pregnant when this happened doesn't surprise me. Prenatal depression can be very bad. Suicidal thoughts are not uncommon. Add to that the pressure of being part of the royal family etc.

In my post was just saying the poster getting slated for saying abusers uses this tactic is right. It is a well used tactic by abusers. People need to be aware of this I feel.

I have been so conflicted in my reaction to H's approach to discussing his own MH problems.

My DD (16)'s life is massively affected by mental illness, and has been for a number of years. One of the very few places she is able to go is a (charity funded) support group for young people with MH problems. The individual stories of many of these teens are heartbreaking.

Part of the aim of the group is to spread awareness, champion causes and fight for funding.

My DD and others in the group have spoken with the local MP, been interviewed for TV news items and fund raisers, visited schools etc. They talk about how their lives are affected, what has helped and who has supported them. As well as what support is still desperately needed.

When they meet as a group, they are able to share personal stories and day to day challenges and offer peer support.

Therapeutic support is undertaken individually and privately.

I can't help wishing Harry had approached his mission to open up in a similar way. It is entirely possible to discuss the effect something has had, without disclosing details of the event itself -(especially to the world's press!)

His approach leaves him wide open to prurient interest, criticism
of his account of events (which will be "his truth" not necessarily other people's truth), and hurt to others.

SheldonesqueTheBstard Fri 21-May-21 17:49:58

...it was done not with the intent of healing but in pure spite. No one could ever think that interview was going to make everything all better again. For anyone involved.

It did feel spiteful. Really uncomfortable viewing. ''Poor us'' .

“The thing is they didn't want to leave the RF did they?

They wanted all the benefits of being royal without any of the shitty bits.

It's notable that it's only since their demands weren't met that demeanour towards the RF changed with loaded press releases and woe is me speeches.

In their original "manifesto" they were full of praise for HMQ and stressed wanting to support her work and continue being members of a family that is apparently "now" utterly toxic.”

Yes I think that’s what has made me less sympathetic and more doubtful. It just doesn’t ring true.

I could sympathise with finding it hard to fit in and wanting to move away but then it all changed.

Strange how his family are now toxic now he feels financially cut off. This is all it is. If they were still funding them then they wouldn’t say anything.

Harry has no work skills so he is monetising the only thing he has. I cannot see this ending well. I admired them for leaving for privacy and have done anything they can to be in the public. They haven’t even taken an extended period of time off, it’s been straight into making money.

Both are totally self absorbed. I'm sick of hearing their names.

I think the following:

He states he has been having therapy for 4 1/2 nearly 5 years BUT.......he says this was Meghan MAKING him go -he had a counsellor -make it 4 years ago -Dec 2016 they met May 2016. Yet she says when she was pregnant August 2018 -she had nowhere to turn and couldn't get counselling and no one was allowed it -yet by Harry's own words- over 2 years early he had started therapy and counselling -I don't get it.

They have the money to pay for therapy -do they even understand how the rest of it works for us??

He's not talking to the media, he's talking to the public, and the public are bored of the whining and are turning on him. How's that going to help his mental health?

I’m not bored and I like what I know about Harry. The people I’ve spoken to in real life about this don’t seem to feel how many do on this thread. They like Harry and have sympathy for what he has been through. Even a couple of people who aren’t ‘on Harry’s side’ still want to hear what he has to say.

Posted to soon.
There’s a lot of interest in this, look at the media, online forums such as here, people are interested.

Yet another excellent post, DeRigeurMortis

I don't think people are interested in the way you think they are kale it is probably horror, mixed with distraction after all we are in pandemic that has killed millions H&M drama is a great distraction to the very real life suffering people are enduring now and bewilderment.

You can see how people view them now looking at the polls, and that makes for grim reading for someone relying on public interest to pay the bills for the next fifty plus years. Selling your trauma might be fun at 40 odd and it is going to be very limited in shelf life.

@KaleSlayer

Posted to soon. There’s a lot of interest in this, look at the media, online forums such as here, people are interested.

Interest doesn’t mean approval, and it doesn’t necessarily mean interest in what he’s saying, as much as in the small p political ramifications.

Personally I’m most interested in the media angle and whether the monarchy will crumble.