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I think harry is really brave

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ssd · 21/05/2021 09:18

Talking about his mental health. Starting talking is the hardest bit. I have to start the conversation and i cant. And i can usually talk for Britain.
I admire him.

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Grohlsguitar · 21/05/2021 16:28

He's not brave. It's not brave to persistently attack your own family when they can't defend themselves. What about their mental health? All these whiny self-centered blame-fest interviews, it's like listening to a Jerry Springer show with posher accents. I hope he can find peace, but he's going about it in the worst possible way.

Frizzbeol · 21/05/2021 16:28

I think that he is feeding his narrative to the Americans, capitalising on their fascination with the RF. And in true Californian fashion, no doubt influenced by Meghan, he is talking it out and in true Grit fashion, we are all horrified. I had the impression from an earlier interview he did with PW on his mother's death, that he doesn't like the UK much and very much resents the position he was born into and the obligation to the great unwashed that comes with it. He completely doesn't understand, or want to understand what being part of the RF means in reality - all that privilege requires something back for the country. He has truly turned his back on it now.

dancealittleclosertome · 21/05/2021 16:28

Susanshite I don't think he was necessarily 'made' to walk behind the coffin - as I understand it, he was unsure and the Duke of Edinburgh said he should do whatever he wanted, but that he thought Harry might eventually regret it if he didn't, and the Duke of Edinburgh offered to walk too if that would help.

I do think that had Harry not walked behind the coffin then he would have both regretted it and also blamed people for not encouraging him.

So there was no right or wrong thing there, just a hideous situation all round.

LeilaLiesLow · 21/05/2021 16:29

@Roussette I too find your comment distasteful and frankly, borne out of ignorance.

My father died at 92. Far from it being a 'happy time' it was one of huge sadness. Yes, everyone is thankful for a long life, but make no mistake - it doesn't make grief easier. In fact it's almost worse as you think they are immortal, having outlived most of their friends.

(And please say 'died' not 'passing' - another horrible term from the US that's become a euphemism for dead or died.)
'Passing' is when someone 'passes on' [to the other side] and is only meaningful to those who believe in an afterlife. I don't and neither did my father.

newnortherner111 · 21/05/2021 16:29

Regardless of how it continues, I hope we can recognise and appreciate his military service.

peoniesarejustperfect · 21/05/2021 16:29

As soon as I read about the Martin Basheer stuff, I thought that nothing has changed as here is Oprah and Megan exploiting him too.

PuffItsGone · 21/05/2021 16:30

When I see all of the ‘poor little Harry losing his mum’ comments all I ever think is...and what about William?

whataboutbob · 21/05/2021 16:30

We do not know what is going on in Harry’s family behind closed doors- although the papers might lead us to believe that we do. I see the same victim blaming going on here that was levelled at his mother. Let’s show some compassion. He lost his mother when he was a young child and it’s been revealed that as well as being hounded by the Paps she was tricked into self revelation by the BBC. Of course he’s upset.

Alonim · 21/05/2021 16:31

Having lost my mum at a similar age I can relate to so much of what he says - and I wasn't living in the public eye and all the rest he had to deal with.

I was wondering today how others perceived him because we're not very good at putting ourselves in other people's shoes - are we? I'm not with others and situations I don't understand.

It's impossible for people who've lost a parent so young to imagine what trauma that brings - I think. It's impossible for any of us to understand what it would be like to live with that trauma with the world looking at you.

Badpicknic · 21/05/2021 16:31

@Tinkling

Are we going to criticise lady gaga and all the other family for talking about their mental health experiences on tv or is it reserved for Harry because he’s a prince and born into being in the private eye rather than seeking it out?
Not really the same though is it.

If they are slagging their families off the likely hood of their families even bring known is very slim. Harry comes from one of the worlds most known families and is a very privileged young man who enjoyed his families wealth and privilege until he met his new wife. A very privileged young man throwing his grandmother under the bus when she has just lost her husband.

The ONLY reason he is getting attention is because he is part of the Royal Family. It’s his new party trick ( instead of dressing up as a nazi solder) as I doubt he can sing or act..

peoniesarejustperfect · 21/05/2021 16:32

Puffs - that is a very good point

Dragongirl10 · 21/05/2021 16:32

You be sad for them then tired, whatever fills your boots. They seen very much in love which seems to rub so very many people up the wrong way. Baffling.

He rubs people up the wrong way because he has publically embarrassed and shamed his family.

Badpicknic · 21/05/2021 16:33

@Alonim

Having lost my mum at a similar age I can relate to so much of what he says - and I wasn't living in the public eye and all the rest he had to deal with.

I was wondering today how others perceived him because we're not very good at putting ourselves in other people's shoes - are we? I'm not with others and situations I don't understand.

It's impossible for people who've lost a parent so young to imagine what trauma that brings - I think. It's impossible for any of us to understand what it would be like to live with that trauma with the world looking at you.

He is just talking about the trauma of his mother’s death though is he? He is dragging his brother, father and grandmother in to it
whataboutbob · 21/05/2021 16:33

@PuffItsGone yes poor William too. People cope in different ways. I think the royal family is consumed by the public as if it was some kind of soap opera. They’re not JR and Bobby Ewing but the tabloids are having a field day pitting loose cannon ungrateful brat Harry against saintly William. And then we think we know them. We don’t.

SpeakingFranglais · 21/05/2021 16:33

I think Harry is so unbelievably privileged he has absolutely no sense of reality.

Badpicknic · 21/05/2021 16:33

@peoniesarejustperfect

As soon as I read about the Martin Basheer stuff, I thought that nothing has changed as here is Oprah and Megan exploiting him too.
Quite!
Roussette · 21/05/2021 16:34

@LeilaLiesLow

Who are you to tell me whether I should use the word 'died' or passing?

Are you in charge of my free speech?
No you are not

My passed away parents used that word and I do sometimes so just sod off telling me what I can and can't say.
If the word 'passing' breaks Talk Guidelines just report me.

whataboutbob · 21/05/2021 16:35

Agree @Alonim but people want simple archetypes. Bad Harry and dutiful William.

DeRigueurMortis · 21/05/2021 16:36

Using his platform to talk about mental health would indeed be a brave thing.

Using mental health as a platform to make money and score points against your family is anything but brave.

Being arrogant enough to think you've got something to offer the world about MH issues when you were by your own admission too embarrassed (despite having had years of therapy yourself) to seek support for your suicidal wife is laughable not laudable.

LeilaLiesLow · 21/05/2021 16:36

I'm afraid I think that H will only realise the error of his ways when it's too late.

To criticise your father so publicly is appalling.

Additionally, he has created a rift with William that cannot be healed. By deserting the 'firm' he has landed many more royal duties on the Cambridges at a time when they hoped they could have a few more years as a 'normal' family before William succeeds to the throne.

As 'the fab four' they could have done much more for MH. Look what we have now. He's making himself a laughing stock.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 21/05/2021 16:38

Well, I got that one spectacularly wrong; I really thought - or maybe hoped - that the "upcoming revelations" thing was a teaser to drive the viewing figures and money

All the arguments have been hashed and rehashed, but in the end he's a 36 year old man and going on and ON speaking publicly like this (as opposed to getting the help he needs privately) is his choice
I don't happen to think it's a very wise choice, but it's his to make and I hope he won't regret it ... or if he does, that it won't all be everyone else's fault too

Badpicknic · 21/05/2021 16:38

@Roussette

Horrible. Harry can think for himself you know, I can only presume the poster is vewwy vewwy upset that an American woman stole our Prince and took him back off to the US. Him not having a mind of his own an' all

Just ridiculous.

Absolutely tone deaf.

He can bloody stay there! He bleeds on about the media then is selling his ‘story’ to the highest bidder. Zero class.

I doubt he will be welcome back!

LeilaLiesLow · 21/05/2021 16:38

@Rousette Well- you have made your point loud and clear.
Have a lovely day :)

Alonim · 21/05/2021 16:39

He is just talking about the trauma of his mother’s death though is he? He is dragging his brother, father and grandmother in to it

I could drag my family into my trauma too - because they were part of it. My dad reacted very similarly to Prince Charles - maybe it was the way people dealt with death at the time. We never spoke of my mum again. As kids we were expected to not even feel sadness. There was no one to talk to about our feelings. It was all just shut away.

This is difficult to imagine in this day and age when therapy is so accessible and would be advised, I think. I'd expect Royal Family to have been given some sort of therapy - even back then. It was only 1997. Not that long ago.

I find it refreshing to hear him talk so honestly. There's kids I know who've lost their mum recently too - and I was thinking today it would have helped me to hear from others who'd been through losing their mum, when I was young. It's good to know you're not alone in your suffering.

StrawberryLipstickStateOfMind · 21/05/2021 16:39

I don't think Roussette's comment is ignorant or distasteful- she's mentioned losing a sibling at a young age in horrible circumstances. We're all products of our experiences and I know exactly what she means.

Of course grief can hit people in unexpected ways and can be horrific. But taking personal situations out of it, can anyone really say that an elderly person who has lived a long full life dying is the same as a young person? I've always found it a comfort to think of a long life well lived but do appreciate that others think differently. I think it's helped me to think this way.

My one remaining grandparent is very elderly and in absolutely terrible health, and it's at the point where it will be a relief when they are no longer suffering. I thought when Philip died good on him, he lived a long full life, and I'm glad he didn't drag on in terrible health. He didn't seem the sort of person who would want to live in that way.