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I think harry is really brave

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ssd · 21/05/2021 09:18

Talking about his mental health. Starting talking is the hardest bit. I have to start the conversation and i cant. And i can usually talk for Britain.
I admire him.

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Samcro · 21/05/2021 16:01

@Miranda15110

The be kind brigade obviously took a holiday!
so true. but they love the sport of ripping him apart.
Roussette · 21/05/2021 16:03

Horrible. Harry can think for himself you know, I can only presume the poster is vewwy vewwy upset that an American woman stole our Prince and took him back off to the US. Him not having a mind of his own an' all

Just ridiculous.

SirVixofVixHall · 21/05/2021 16:03

@LeilaLiesLow

How many of us have perfect parents?

How many of us ARE perfect parents?

Exactly.

And how many of us whether in counselling or not, would take to the media and criticise our families who are still alive?

Every single person could blame their parents and upbringing for something. I could. But I talk to my friends and DH about it when I need to.

Talking to the media and causing so much pain to your parent and grandparents who simply did their best at the time, is cruel and shows a lack of maturity.

I agree with this. He seems to have not grown up at all, yet he is mid thirties now. It will come back to bite him when his own adult children do the same.
StrawberryLipstickStateOfMind · 21/05/2021 16:04

I actually feel sorry for all of them tbh.

It's unimaginable what Harry and William have had to go through. I feel sorry for Charles too because I'm sure he has regrets and if Diana hadn't died, there's every chance that the past would have been in the past and everyone would have moved on from the mess of their marriage. I feel sad for the queen who must be exhausted and upset at how things are, and she's now lost the person who was supporting her all that time.

I think Harry is wrong to be making everything so public and I don't think it will do him any good long term. I question his motivations- and I don't really understand the comments of 'good on them for escaping the British tabloid press'- Oprah is a vulture circling and the press in the US are no better- they are at least as bad as here.

waitingforthenextseason · 21/05/2021 16:05

@parsnipsnotsprouts

Really? I think he’s making a career out of whining
Absolutely.

A total whiner.

He has more than most people could ever dream of ... and he's looking for ways to continue the lifestyle. Shockingly self-centred, actually.

Summercocktailsinthesnow · 21/05/2021 16:06

I’d agree that being in the us gives Meghan much more power than it does Harry

And that is going to play out in the years to come, and not in Harry's favour bluntness every single aspect of their lives is now on her terms.

osbertthesyrianhamster · 21/05/2021 16:07

@Tabitha005

So, they'll be handing back their titles any moment now, right? If the RF really is so awful, why would they want their titles? For the money, of course. There's a premium that comes with being a duke and duchess. They're so transparent as they hawk their stories around Hollywood for the cash that you could put a pair of curtains on them and call them a window.
This. The family is, his terms, abusive, neglectful. They're bullies, racists, awful etc etc wouldn't you not want to touch their titles or money? Not want your kids to have titles or places in the succession.
Hugoslavia · 21/05/2021 16:08

I do find it interesting that she told him that he needed therapy after they had an argument!
Also, I have read up a lot on Narcissism and suicide threats and feelings are actually common in narcissistic individuals as they cannot cope with a loss of control.

Backstreetsbackalrightdadada · 21/05/2021 16:08

He comes across as really entitled - I mean now, not just his background. It’s just a weird sell for me... goes on about mental health but didn’t get his wife help, goes on about injustice but not how he even now lives a life of favours (literally anti-merit), speaks nobly about racism but never mentions how he used the p word (wtf) and dressed as hitler. It’s like he’s found out what intersectionality is but like it’s a buzzword and doesn’t take ownership of having benefitted from it. That really annoys me - he won’t even give up a make believe title, so just feels like a lie. Like he’s trying to sell he’s one of us but clinging onto that title for dear life. Walk the walk...

Plus he’s not a professional and mental health is too serious for glib shows.... Then he’s not relatable - anyway everyone’s pain is particular to them and worth no more and no less than anyone else’s. But his life too is unrelatable even now he’s trying to be “just Harry”. If his message is “seek therapy” then it’s totally lost in his deepdiving his own life experience. It’s sort of really misplaced at best.

So .... not into it :)

adrianmolesmole · 21/05/2021 16:10

Haven't RTFT but I think it's good for him to talk. Easy to say "shut up you're rich" but if you don't like it just ignore him.

Many, many more people suffer emotional abuse/neglect than physical, it's so common that we're often unaware of it. He's clearly suffered emotional trauma from his woefully emotionally unintelligent family and why shouldn't he speak about it? It could help others.

Just because someone appears to have a perfect life from the outside doesn't mean that everything's rosy on the inside. PPs should look at the bloody stately homes thread on this very forum.

Closetbeanmuncher · 21/05/2021 16:10

Yes his mental health was soooo terrible when the paps used to snap him regularly round various London celeb haunts having the time of his life pissing away the tax money of people (some of whom are on the poverty line) 😳

Funny how these "mental health problems" started when he stopped getting his own way isn't it??

William has been through the exact same trauma the only difference is hes not a spoilt whiney brat and handles himself with class.

The very least he can do is renounce the titles, repay the wedding and renovations costs and STFU.

Summercocktailsinthesnow · 21/05/2021 16:11

If the situation were reversed and Harry was a woman, we would be very very fearful for her, and would be calling this relationship out for what it is.
Any woman being left without family or friends, thousands of miles from home in an alien country with her mental health in tatters would be cause for alarm, and rightly so. Particularly if her misery and trauma was being auctioned for large sums of money and others were profiting on the back of her MH problems. It is exploitation pure and simple.

milveycrohn · 21/05/2021 16:13

If the RF is so toxic, then why did he want to be half in and half out?
He is not the only person whose parent's marriage has broken down, and whose mother has died. However, to me he clearly hates his father and wants to punish him for cutting his funding.
This appears to be about revenge.
The RF may not be perfect - few families are, but calling them toxic is really unfair, when they cannot respond.
And even if they could respond, how could they say or do anything, when their every comment would be on US TV the following day (Gail King?).
I hope at some time they will be able to reconcile, but the more Harry blasts the entire RF, the less likely this will be.

CaraherEIL · 21/05/2021 16:14

I find it hard to believe that MM really loves him when she is playing such a large part in him bad mouthing his family. I think there is a terrible arrogance in believing that she will be enough for him.
Also her comprehension of type of family he grew up in and the sense of honour and tradition that has been instilled in him and his pride in his military position seems to be very limited.
I think when this cathartic ride he is on comes to an end and the dust settles he will be very unhappy.
I think she has manipulated him into believing that he is fighting a battle that should have been fought for his mother. I think the vilification of Meghan in the British press was reminiscent of the hounding of Diana and it reopened lots of old wounds for Harry. I think he has been badly misdirected but I think Harry really started with the best intentions to remove all the secrecy and deceit that had haunted his mum and he thought might now destroy his wife.
That original aim has been lost and he has now been drawn into saying far too much and causing irrevocable damage to his relationship with his family. I don’t think estrangement is what he really wants it feels like his marriage has wrecked the rest of his life.

Susanshite · 21/05/2021 16:15

Whenever I see Harry I think of that small 12 year old boy made to walk behind his mother's coffin, presumably because it was the done thing.

What a hideously cruel thing to do to children. He has so much internalised anger, it is so very sad. Now this latest report about his mo mother’s interview can only set him back further. I fear for him, I feel so very sorry for him. He really is a broken man. His family have done that and I can totally understand his obvious, raw pain.

Tinkling · 21/05/2021 16:16

Are we going to criticise lady gaga and all the other family for talking about their mental health experiences on tv or is it reserved for Harry because he’s a prince and born into being in the private eye rather than seeking it out?

Hugoslavia · 21/05/2021 16:17

I find it interesting how distanced he has become from Charles since being with Meghan. American's loved Diana and blamed Charles, as did many Britain's at the time. However, over time I think that public opinion shifted. We have witnessed Charles and Camilla quietly get on with things and serve the public. Over the course of 25 years public opinion has largely shifted in the UK, but much of this hasn't made it onto the radar in the States. It's not headline worthy. So many are still left with their feelings from 25 years ago with the focus being still on Diana. And of course, Meghan has modelled herself on Diana. So it stands to reason that she is biased against Charles and that this is rubbing off on Harry.

Sarahandco · 21/05/2021 16:17

I think they are behaving very badly.

osbertthesyrianhamster · 21/05/2021 16:17

He's 36 now.

Mydogmylife · 21/05/2021 16:20

@Roussette

hey choose not to delay the showing knowing they were placing a bomb under the royal family at a time of great suffering

Whilst there are posters on here who are talking about all the problems that people are going through far far worse than Harry, I really think it is wrong to call the passing of a 99 year old man at home having led a very very happy life 'a time of great suffering'. It would've been a time of peace and thanks for a life.

Well, my father passed when he was 93, and I was devasted. Was I not allowed to suffer from his death because he was old? I find your comment hurtful and pretty damm ignorant
SchadenfreudePersonified · 21/05/2021 16:23

@parsnipsnotsprouts

Really? I think he’s making a career out of whining
So do I.

I know that as a child he must have suffered terribly from the loss of his mother - and I think that that has left him vulnerable to manipulation by people - especially women - like Oprah, and even Meghan.

He needs to stay out of the public eye and get proper therapy. There is a narrow line between cathartic revelations in a clinical setting, and dwelling on the pain over and over again, publicly, and getting "petted and stroked" by self-serving individuals who are feeding off your distress, so that you become self-obsessed and whiney.

He had a hard time. Many children do. Not all of them are cushioned against the world the way he and his wife are. He should shut up.

LeilaLiesLow · 21/05/2021 16:24

@Tinkling

Are we going to criticise lady gaga and all the other family for talking about their mental health experiences on tv or is it reserved for Harry because he’s a prince and born into being in the private eye rather than seeking it out?
Oh God, how many more of these comments are there going to be here.

I think you mean @Tinkling he was born into the public eye.

The issue is NOT about H talking about his MH.

It's the insensitivity he shows to his father, brother, the Queen and everyone else in the family, by making films about 'how badly they treated him'.

The best way for him to raise the profile of MH is to do some unpaid work helping others who have MH issues, or to use his profile to fund-raise. He needs to stop parading his own experiences which are- quite frankly- in danger of damaging the mental and physical health of his family in the UK.

He is showing not the slightest regard for his own father who has recently lost his father (Philip) nor his grandmother, the Queen.

Mydogmylife · 21/05/2021 16:25

@LalalalalalaLand123

I really think it is wrong to call the passing of a 99 year old man at home having led a very very happy life 'a time of great suffering'. It would've been a time of peace and thanks for a life.

What a disgusting and ageist comment. My grandmother recently passed away at a similar age, and in no way was that 'a time of peace', we were all devasated at losing a vibrant and cherished family member. Disgraceful comment.

Totally agree with lila
Mydogmylife · 21/05/2021 16:25

Sorry lala

PuffItsGone · 21/05/2021 16:26

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