I think harry is really brave

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Talking about his mental health. Starting talking is the hardest bit. I have to start the conversation and i cant. And i can usually talk for Britain.
I admire him.

How in god's name do you know that???? You don't

I do know that, because I was there at least a few times. As were many many others. I don't think silence is helping now, these lies now need to be fully challenged.

Brave is leaving your family behind and making it on your own.

Brave is not continuing to cash in and accept money from your family in your late 30's while whining about them and how hard your life is to the international press. How tone deaf do you have to be to say "it's been hard but at least we've got each other" from your million dollar mansion in the middle of a global pandemic.

It must be agonising for Prince Charles to watch his son publicly breaking down like this, like the stuff of nightmares

Yes absolutely and he can hopefully empathetic with a tiny proportion of the agony Harry must have felt at the public break down of his parents marriage, both their awful interviews, the escaping of the Camilla gate tapes ....the list goes on and on and on...

Definately Fri 21-May-21 12:53:28

^^ he said they tried for years and Harry and Charles never seemed close at all, Charles has always struck me as an emotional but warm man who thinks deeply but is ultimatly inward looking.

I do know that, because I was there at least a few times. As were many many others. I don't think silence is helping now, these lies now need to be fully challenged

What do you mean. You know because you were out with Harry?? That does not make sense.
When someone is drinking too much, that does not necessarily mean "wayhay PAAAARTY"

Harry realises that the hatred will only stop when Meghan is dead. He mentions it in episode 3 of the series.

I feel for him.

I think that he and Megan do actually believe that this kind of mental health and wellbeing discourse, putting yourself forward as an example, and working with the media, is for the greater good.

I think they are wrong though. People just won't respond well. You see it everywhere. "Be Kind" "Be Kind" "Be Kind" left right and centre, but when someone actually needs you to be kind and hear their truth, they spout forward with all kinds of caveats, uninformed judgements, ifs and or buts why that particular individual doesn't deserve their kindness. Parents of SEN kids see this all the time -the other parents with Be Kind facebook profiles, clothes etc...who exclude and ignore the children who actually need that kindness, in favour of easier targets or meaningless virtue signalling. Actually being kind requires thought, empathy and effort and most people aren't prepared to do it.

He is a man who was raised restrictively within an extremely odd institution. That alone should make the rest of us (who didn't) wary of making assumptions, prepared to default to actually being kind. Before we even consider the loss of his mother. But we don't. And we come up with excuses to justify our behaviour. Many here already and many more to come.

I just felt really sad when I read something William had said about the Diana interview from 1995 having had an impact on him all this time. Does Harry not realise that is what he's condemning his children to? Ill advised interviews spurred on my press manipulation?

@Elementarymydearr

I really dislike the weird frothing at the mouth animosity towards Harry and Meghan. I don’t think they always do the right thing but I genuinely wish them well. Honestly, some people act like a bitter ex that they’ve broken up with...so vicious in such a personal way.

I know! Why take it so personally? Honestly baffles me.

I have nothing but respect for Harry right now

I know only too well how much it hurts and the huge implications of a family who are emotionally cold and detached. It's demoralising to be told by them that your views aren't valid. That you over egg your disappointment and emotional trauma, or that you are attention seeking.

It's hard enough when you are given short shrift by people not connected to you. To get it from family is deeply hurtful.

Even now, 20 years on from having nothing to do with my abusive and destructive family, I still lack a lot of self belief, and confidence. I still never feel good enough. I double guess what people are wanting from me. I am deeply mistrustful of people being nice or saying nice things about me.
I always expect the inevitable nasty behaviour to come

I just want to give him a cuddle.

I think he could have lived a happier life quietly int he English countryside, perhaps with a role in the territorial army or part time services role. I don't think choosing to make money out of publicity is a great idea in his position. However I am sorry he is not living near his family any more and that his mother died when he was young.

Hopefully if the Royal Family say as little as possible this will die down and then he can start regularly UK visits and family relationships can be improved. His wife seems to have some strained relationships in her own family so she may not be the best person to turn to in deciding who to mend bridges.

Personally I think far too much emphasis is placed on the royal family by the media right now when there are far more pressing global concerns.

I absolutely agree that he is being brave. People talk about him as though he had access to all the usual ways normal folk can keep a grip on their MH, like going for a kick-around down the local park or a few pints down the pub.

There seems to be an element of "We paid for this fucker, so we want our money's worth" in the bullying tone of his critics.

The Royal Family is ridiculously cruel and anachronistic, especially these days with the level of media intrusion. It was only a matter of time before things exploded like this.

I don’t doubt he has some issues but he is incredibly tone deaf and appearing to be mo way grabbing. They could have settled down and had privacy and a quiet ish life. Instead they have chosen to stoke up a ton of publicity and fuel the media circus.

Many royal have a good life and don't court the media.
They seem to be rather good at it all, for people who want a quiet life.
Hanging your dirty washing out for all to see is not a way to heal .

Instead they have chosen to stoke up a ton of publicity and fuel the media circus.

I think whatever they do is likely to be a media circus, unless they literally stage their own deaths and retreat to some remote Javanese island.

He’s fucking it right up. It’s very sad. I hope he can step back and get the healing he needs privately.

The more interviews which Harrys does, the more concerning his behaviour is.

This looks like a breakdown. He is separated from not only his immediately family but also the wider group. He doesn't appear to have the friendships he once had.

What I don't understand, is if the media, and socials and paparazzi is so damaging to his mental heath, why continue to seek publicity? If he is so angry and has such contempt towards the royal family, why not renounce his titles and remove himself from the line of succession?

@Psychonabike

I feel for him.

I think that he and Megan do actually believe that this kind of mental health and wellbeing discourse, putting yourself forward as an example, and working with the media, is for the greater good.

I think they are wrong though. People just won't respond well. You see it everywhere. "Be Kind" "Be Kind" "Be Kind" left right and centre, but when someone actually needs you to be kind and hear their truth, they spout forward with all kinds of caveats, uninformed judgements, ifs and or buts why that particular individual doesn't deserve their kindness. Parents of SEN kids see this all the time -the other parents with Be Kind facebook profiles, clothes etc...who exclude and ignore the children who actually need that kindness, in favour of easier targets or meaningless virtue signalling. Actually being kind requires thought, empathy and effort and most people aren't prepared to do it.

He is a man who was raised restrictively within an extremely odd institution. That alone should make the rest of us (who didn't) wary of making assumptions, prepared to default to actually being kind. Before we even consider the loss of his mother. But we don't. And we come up with excuses to justify our behaviour. Many here already and many more to come.

Great post agree

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@YellowMonday

@TheVamoosh Maybe revisit your take on this?

Diana used the media for her own gain much of the time.
She set up photo ops and was incredibly manipulative.

Likewise, Harry is asking for these interviews to be made and sold.
How you can possibly say people have no sympathy for him when he is the conductor of this publicity around his life, is frankly unbelievable.

It might interest you to know that in some biographies of Charles, he forbade the inclusion of some anti- Diana information as it would be too hurtful to her.

And you seem to be completely ignoring the pain H's behaviour is causing to all of his family who cannot and will not join his soap opera to put the other side to his narrative.

@georgarina

Brave is leaving your family behind and making it on your own.

Brave is not continuing to cash in and accept money from your family in your late 30's while whining about them and how hard your life is to the international press. How tone deaf do you have to be to say "it's been hard but at least we've got each other" from your million dollar mansion in the middle of a global pandemic.

Agree. He's not brave, he's entitled, spoiled and desperate to destroy his family in every way he can. I wish the press would stop reporting it all. It's a family imploding which Harry's attacking knowing they will say nothing in return. That's not brave - that cowardly and nasty.

@YellowMonday

The more interviews which Harrys does, the more concerning his behaviour is.

This looks like a breakdown. He is separated from not only his immediately family but also the wider group. He doesn't appear to have the friendships he once had.

What I don't understand, is if the media, and socials and paparazzi is so damaging to his mental heath, why continue to seek publicity? If he is so angry and has such contempt towards the royal family, why not renounce his titles and remove himself from the line of succession?

In the short term he clearly finds it cathartic. He's lapping up the attention and being allowed to say his bit.

But it won't end well.

[quote Angiedx]@Psychonabike

I feel for him.

I think that he and Megan do actually believe that this kind of mental health and wellbeing discourse, putting yourself forward as an example, and working with the media, is for the greater good.

I think they are wrong though. People just won't respond well. You see it everywhere. "Be Kind" "Be Kind" "Be Kind" left right and centre, but when someone actually needs you to be kind and hear their truth, they spout forward with all kinds of caveats, uninformed judgements, ifs and or buts why that particular individual doesn't deserve their kindness. Parents of SEN kids see this all the time -the other parents with Be Kind facebook profiles, clothes etc...who exclude and ignore the children who actually need that kindness, in favour of easier targets or meaningless virtue signalling. Actually being kind requires thought, empathy and effort and most people aren't prepared to do it.

He is a man who was raised restrictively within an extremely odd institution. That alone should make the rest of us (who didn't) wary of making assumptions, prepared to default to actually being kind. Before we even consider the loss of his mother. But we don't. And we come up with excuses to justify our behaviour. Many here already and many more to come.

Great post agree[/quote]
Totally agree. And in connection to the SEN parent comparison, it's SO true. People can't empathise with something that they can't truly understand and is so far out of their frame of reference. This is entirely the same. There's no doubt that M&H feel very aggrieved and hurt in their suffering. Will this help them heal with the millions of column inches from detractors who have no idea what is like to be them? I seriously doubt it.