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I think harry is really brave

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ssd · 21/05/2021 09:18

Talking about his mental health. Starting talking is the hardest bit. I have to start the conversation and i cant. And i can usually talk for Britain.
I admire him.

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ScienceSensibility · 21/05/2021 12:19

@LalalalalalaLand123

Harry is lying, making things up for money - that is not brave. There were so many lies in the Oprah interview. Now there are so many more.

Now, for example, he says that he sought help for his mental health relating to his grief over his mother's death after this argument with Meghan, at her suggestion that he 'needs to see someone'. Yet Harry, William and Kate had set up the mental health charity Heads Together in spring 2016, so Harry was already aware of the importance of dealing with mental health and the issues surrounding his grief (there is a video on youtube of the three of them from April 2016 ); and in an article in Vanity Fair in April 2017, Harry says “And it was only three years ago, funny enough, from the support around, and my brother and other people saying, ‘You really need to deal with this. It’s not normal to think that nothing has affected you.’ ” ( www.vanityfair.com/style/2017/04/prince-harry-reveals-he-went-to-therapy-to-process-princess-diana-death ) So that would have been in 2014 that his brother William was telling him to deal with his grief and get therapy.....
YET Harry and Meghan didn't even meet each other until July 2016.

AND they now claim that they were unable to obtain mental health help for Meghan when she was suicidal, that the royal family actually prevented this. How can that be true, if Harry, William and Kate were part of a mental health charity, and Harry himself was in therapy?

Harry and Meghan are rewriting history - lyng, basically. So many lies.

Excellent post.

So much lying. Harry can’t even keep his story straight from one interview to the next. Some people are swallowing it hook, line and sinker. Fools.

AdaColeman · 21/05/2021 12:20

The only thing that Harry has in his skill set is his "woe is me" narrative, and he has to use it now, and frequently, while the public is still interested enough to pay to hear it.
In another twenty or thirty years, no one will want to pay to hear that well known story yet again, so he has to make all his money now. None of his recent actions have been about his mental health, they've been about securing his own financial future.

MagicSummer · 21/05/2021 12:20

I wish he would just shut up! He is pathetic the way he blames his own family for every perceived slight which he thinks has happened during his life. Yes, we all know he lost his mother when very young, but so did William and he doesn't whine about it.

13579db · 21/05/2021 12:21

Frankly his whining is an insult to people in society with actual problems

He needs to rejoin the army

towers14 · 21/05/2021 12:22

Talking to Oprah for money? Don't see how that helps his mental health. I feel it won't end well for Harry when Meghan eventually dumps in, he's sold out his family. I say that as someone who used to respect and like him.

Cocolapew · 21/05/2021 12:22

I don't understand why he is saying Mm couldn't get any help when pregnant. Does he mean none at all or just his family weren't supportive?
Because if its the first senario I'm callling bullshit.

TheFairyCaravan · 21/05/2021 12:23

I think Harry is brave for speaking out and one thing that really annoys me is when people pipe up “well William went through the same and he’s ok.” No two people are the same. William was older and may have had a different relationship with his mother. We don’t know.

My upbringing has had a huge impact on my life now but I don’t feel like I can talk about it. The one time I did, when I was 45, I got a huge bollocking from my dad because it had upset my mother. Not one person had thought about how upset I was. I’d tried to address it before but I’d had been completely shut down. It’s always dismissed, you get told to get on with it and your siblings are ok, but there’s different dynamics in families which aren’t addressed and it’s all swept under the carpet.

I will never speak up now, my parents are too old and it’s not worth it, but if I was in Harry’s place where he and Meghan have been made out to be the villains by the press and the family have never supported him, I’d be talking too.

Wakeupin2022 · 21/05/2021 12:23

He needs to rejoin the army

As long as its not the British army.......

Whythesadface · 21/05/2021 12:24

Can you imagine when Charles loses his mum, are Queen.
Bet they will want to robe up and be front and centre for that.
But if he has trashed his dad , which he seems to be doing as his next victim, just how do they expect to be welcomed back to the UK.

feellikeanalien · 21/05/2021 12:24

@70smillie

I'm horrified by what he's doing but not because I want him to go away.

He's obviously at such an early stage of dealing with all this (and if this isn't an early stage then his therapy to date has failed him), that whoever is advising/tempting him to put all this into the public arena that he says destroyed his mother should be thoroughly ashamed.

He is being as used and destroyed just as much as Diana was. We are not watching empowerment or a mental health advocation , we are watching the media (yes including Oprah) collude in yet another act of destruction.

Exactly this. I saw the headlines briefly this morning and my first thought was that he seems to be in serious trouble. I hope he will find someone wise to counsel him and enable him to deal with his obvious demons.
Summercocktailsinthesnow · 21/05/2021 12:24

That heads together post made me feel really sad.

They have all lost so much. They were awesome together and the smile and laugher on Harry's face came from a very warm and happy place, he looks so carefree in that clip. I have not seen him look that way for years now. It is deeply sad. What a loss.

NewMatress · 21/05/2021 12:25

I'd like someone to publically ask him how he thinks his current behaviour is impacting his family's MH.

The "whole family" were silent at his requests for help. Including his mother's family? His brother? His Gran who's just lost her husband

It's true that some MH conditions can make you self absorbed but flippin heck.

I do think he's being exploited by some media, in some ways, but clearly that suits him as, in many respects, it did his mother.

CPsRus · 21/05/2021 12:25

Yes, totally agree OP! He is a breath of fresh air and that toxic family might benefit from airing its issues more. Anyone else in such a weird family would be encouraged to talk and go low or no contact but Harry gets accused of whining! I think he is brave and I hope he and Megan can get their lives on a more even keel. If only the RF as an institution and a family (a family!) could be a bit more self-aware...

KarensChoppyGob · 21/05/2021 12:25

I agree OP and I think you're brave posting anyway knowing the slavering masses will be chomping at the bit when it comes to any attempt to sympathise with him and his choices.

Live and let live anyone?

EsmaCannonball · 21/05/2021 12:26

It annoys me that this is always framed as fans of the royal family vs. fans of Meghan and Harry. I'm not a royalist, which is also why I dislike Meghan and Harry, seeing them as just another variant on hereditary privilege and money-grubbing shamelessness. They are the perfect storm of aristocratic advantage and vacuous celebrity culture, so no wonder they aren't going down well with those members of the public who don't spend their days getting into vicious Twitter spats over Harry Styles and BTS.

As for this latest bout of revelations, I think Harry has lost his right to complain about press intrusion when we've learnt more about his private life from his own mouth than we ever did from the media. I guess this is his career now. The information that Meghan accused him of behaving like a 12 year old during an argument and that she threatened to kill herself and their unborn child in precise detail, only stopping herself because she didn't want him to lose another woman he loved, have made it sound like he's in a psychologically abusive relationship. Imagine if he was posting on here for advice.

CPsRus · 21/05/2021 12:28

Thing is, if it was ‘just family’ he could just talk to a therapist. However, because of it being the RF, the general public and the press are part of the toxic dynamic. The amount of hate they get on social media is part of it. The press led to his mum’s death fgs. They won’t leave him or his family alone either, be real! He is trying to get out of it in the only way he can - taking control of the narrative and changing public/press opinion.

DelilahDingleberry · 21/05/2021 12:28

“ I'd like someone to publically ask him how he thinks his current behaviour is impacting his family's MH.”

Is that what we do to people who have been abused and neglected?

queenofarles · 21/05/2021 12:29

I’m beginning to think Harry is just miserable no matter where he is, what can he do other than give interviews about the RF? I don’t think the US audience will have any interest in his mental health if there was no connection to The RF.

Angiedx · 21/05/2021 12:29

I think whatever peoples view of H&M they are at least in the main in control of their own narrative which supports what they said about leaving as senior members of the RF.

Ultimately they are making the decisions and whether the future tells them their decisions were right or wrong they can and will have to own them, as opposed to as they state previously happened that decisions happened to them rather than with them.

I think it is often easier to accept your mistakes ( if made) when you are the author of them

Only time will tell if Harry and to a lesser extent Meghan have been right to speak out as they do

It will be of help to some to others it will be the opposite.

NewMatress · 21/05/2021 12:30

Is that what we do to people who have been abused and neglected?

Which ones? If you think that's what happened, he's trashing at least one other person it also happened to.

NewMatress · 21/05/2021 12:32

If he'd genuinely withdrawn from public life the press would have left him alone. There'd have been nothing to tell.

YanTanTethera123 · 21/05/2021 12:33

@Sirzy

My worry is the way he is doing things is showing no concerns about the impact his comments could have on the mental health of his wider family. There is a way to talk but personally his way makes me feel uncomfy
He continues to lob grenades into his family with absolutely no insight into the harm he’s doing. His incessant me, me, me is nauseating. All he’s thinking about is himself and the money he can get for whinging to the world. I don’t think he has the slightest empathy for anyone.
LeilaLiesLow · 21/05/2021 12:34

@TheFairyCaravan

I think Harry is brave for speaking out and one thing that really annoys me is when people pipe up “well William went through the same and he’s ok.” No two people are the same. William was older and may have had a different relationship with his mother. We don’t know.

My upbringing has had a huge impact on my life now but I don’t feel like I can talk about it. The one time I did, when I was 45, I got a huge bollocking from my dad because it had upset my mother. Not one person had thought about how upset I was. I’d tried to address it before but I’d had been completely shut down. It’s always dismissed, you get told to get on with it and your siblings are ok, but there’s different dynamics in families which aren’t addressed and it’s all swept under the carpet.

I will never speak up now, my parents are too old and it’s not worth it, but if I was in Harry’s place where he and Meghan have been made out to be the villains by the press and the family have never supported him, I’d be talking too.

So you think your own experience is in some way comparable? From what you write, there is no comparison, other than you having issues with your parents which I suspect 99% of us have!

And you believe all H says? You don't think his MH issues may in fact cloud his judgement?

The point is, the people he is hurting by his talking have no way of telling their side of it. Whether he knows this and is being manipulative or just dim, is unclear.

H could easily have said his mother's death had an impact on him and he didn't want to be an active royal. Everyone would have understood.

what he ought not to do is sell his soul to the media, in some vain attempt to get revenge, by criticising his father, his brother and the Queen.

No one sympathises or respects that.

PurpleRainDancer · 21/05/2021 12:35

I think Harry isn't 'brave' he's insufferable.

sundayistheday · 21/05/2021 12:36

The sad fact of the matter is that it doesn't matter if you are a prince of royal birth or not, people can't really understand and empathise with something that they haven't experienced. So sharing your truth globally isn't the way to destigmatise or solve anything. His motivation isn't global mental health or even his own - it's revenge and cash. Pouring shame on his family doesn't prove he's 'better', it just double underlines how far he still has to fall.