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Women who use 'she/her' ??

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WineGetsMeThroughIt · 19/05/2021 16:50

I've noticed this in many social media profiles, but I also saw it used today in an email signature from someone in a professional agency I'm working with. Why do women (who are very clearly women from their Instagram pictures or their own names) use '(she/her)' in their bio / signature after their name? Am I missing something here? Isn't it obvious? What is the point of this? Just really seems stupid to me, but then perhaps I've completely missed something...? 🤷‍♀️

Example of the signature:

Isabelle Winter (she/her) • Senior Account Executive

OP posts:
donkey86 · 19/05/2021 16:56

It’s pointless virtue signalling. I suppose I could see the point if you were called something unisex like Alex or Chris, but then I’d put “Alex Smith (Mrs)” or “Ms Alex Smith” or whatever.

GinWithLime · 19/05/2021 16:57

It's because it makes those comfortable with non binary pronouns to use them. The more we discuss our pronouns, the easier it is for those who use they/them or alternatives.

MistySkiesAfterRain · 19/05/2021 16:57

It's so that if (for example) Sam Jones,
a transgender male, wanted to put he/him they would feel comfortable about it because its been normalised.

Personally I have a client group some of whom might not like it.

NutellaEllaElla · 19/05/2021 16:58

Virtue signalling, part of the purity spiral culture that's currently circling in the toilet bowl.

ClarrieGrundy · 19/05/2021 17:00

It's nonsense virtual signalling.

It makes a lot of women (and some men) feel incredibly uncomfortable.

I would actively avoid doing business with anyone with pronouns in their bio.

Iminaglasscaseofemotion · 19/05/2021 17:01

Either virtue signalling, or someone has told them they have to, and they can't afford to refuse and potentially lose their job.

Jobsharenightmare · 19/05/2021 17:01

It's pointless to me unless it's ambiguous. We already have he she it. They is plural surely?

Finfintytint · 19/05/2021 17:03

Woke bollocks and people trying too hard.

emmathedilemma · 19/05/2021 17:06

I think it’s as @GinWithLime says but tbh I find it really quite weird and haven’t seen a single person use they/them. We were given the option to add it to our work email signatures but very few people have done so.

bunburyscucumbersandwich · 19/05/2021 17:10

They may look like a woman but they are biologically male? Or, they are trying to jump on the woke bandwagon.

TeenMinusTests · 19/05/2021 17:14

When a company has a policy to do this it also
a) forces people who are questioning their own identity to make an active choice
b) forces women to highlight that fact. many women find that they get treated less well in work when it is clear they are female and so positively like using a more neutral name or just using their initial.

looptheloopinahulahoop · 19/05/2021 17:23

My employer has just changed our email signatures and made it a "compulsory" field. I've not done it yet but wonder how long it will take for someone to notice that I've not added my pronouns in.

I have an obviously female name so I guess it makes no difference really. If I identified as male, presumably I'd also change my name from eg Kirsty to Kevin?

But if I were Sam or Alex or Charley I might actually like it to be unclear whether I was male/female/indeterminate, because people may treat you differently if they think you are a man.

Love51 · 19/05/2021 17:29

I like to think if I was told it was compulsory I'd just put the pronouns I use for myself, but as I like getting paid every month I'd actually cave and put the ones that people have automatically been using for me my entire life without needing prompting.
You don't need to know someone's sex or gender identity if they have one to write and email.

Dear Chris,
Thanks for the paperwork you sent. I'm really impressed by xyz. Would you be able to change section A to the end? By Thursday would be fine.
Kind regards
Love51
Alphabet department
Woke Industries
Pronouns: first person singular

Devlesko · 19/05/2021 17:34

I can't be doing with it.
If you look like you have balls and a cock, then you are a man, if you have tits and a vagina then you're a woman.
She/ her for a woman, he/him for a bloke.

PenguindreamsofDraco · 19/05/2021 17:34

In your example, Isabelle is either a pointless virtue signalled after the woke cookies, or a man.

PenguindreamsofDraco · 19/05/2021 17:35

Signaller

Carriemac · 19/05/2021 17:44

I'd put

"Obviously when you're talking to me you'll use my name. When you're talking about me, it's really not my business to police your language."

mindutopia · 19/05/2021 17:51

Actually, it's not obvious at all. Entirely apart from the fact that some people may not consider themselves the gender they used to be at a different point in life, honestly people are not good at figuring out what gender people are just by their names. I have several colleagues who have not obviously gendered names. People get it wrong all the time. I also work with lots of people who don't necessarily have English names. I have absolutely no idea if I should use he or she when referring to them and it can be super awkward. I end up having to just talk about them in the third person rather than get it wrong. I think it's really useful.

Tal45 · 19/05/2021 17:52

I can't cope with this non binary they/them BS. Just look between your legs and then you'll know if you're she or he. Gender is a social concept ie made up by people. If you don't fit it that's fine, it doesn't change that you either have a vagina or a penis.
If you are transgender then chose a name that is clearly of the sex you think you should be, then put Mr or Ms or whatever in front of it if you want to make it even more clear.
This stating your pronouns is just corporate bullshit.

MsFogi · 19/05/2021 17:56

Woke bollocks that will eventually eat itself.

Georgyporky · 19/05/2021 17:59

A simple Mr/Ms would be better.

I get annoyed when there is no indication of gender, e.g. Chris, Sam etc, or an unfamiliar name from a different country/culture.

PhilCornwall1 · 19/05/2021 18:00

@MsFogi

Woke bollocks that will eventually eat itself.
Agreed, it's over LinkedIn (Facebook for suits) as well.

Doesn't surprise me on that platform, as it's sole purpose over the last 12 months has been virtue signalling bollocks.

Insidelaurashead · 19/05/2021 18:01

Wow, there's some incredibly intolerant people on this site. It doesn't make me any less of a woman if my trans colleague wants to be referred to as they/them and if me putting she/her in my email makes them more comfortable putting they/them, which in turn saves them upset in the future, then I'm all for it.

FFSFFSFFS · 19/05/2021 18:02

So that they can make it clear that they are identifying into gender stereotypes.

Its a really useful way of knowing who likes pink, pretty unicorns and being paid lower (she/her) and who likes blue, trucks and dinosaurs and being paid more.

Finfintytint · 19/05/2021 18:04

@Insidelaurashead

Wow, there's some incredibly intolerant people on this site. It doesn't make me any less of a woman if my trans colleague wants to be referred to as they/them and if me putting she/her in my email makes them more comfortable putting they/them, which in turn saves them upset in the future, then I'm all for it.
Eh?
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