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Kids playing outside

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Jiggy16 · 21/04/2021 20:19

Trying not to be a grouch, what time do people feel is acceptable for kids (10/15 maybe around the age 10ish?) playing outside in the evening, shouting and loud singing, sometimes with whistles.

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Branleuse · 23/04/2021 23:33

Im sure if you lived in certain places, everyone would have gardens and big houses and people would be able to have more friends over. but if you live in flats or on a lot of estates, then kids do play on the street.

Maggiesfarm · 23/04/2021 23:37

I agree about flats, there's no choice then and children need to get fresh air.

FrangipaniBlue · 23/04/2021 23:43

*They played with friends throughout their childhoods, of course. It simply wasn’t on the streets or at a recreation ground. As older children, it was at the watersports centre where they worked, at friends houses, at the tennis club, at the rugby club or after orchestra in the recreation area. Their friends came to us to use the pool or play badminton etc.
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You realise that not every child has such a privileged life right?

Wandamakestoast · 23/04/2021 23:53

School pool, as happens. and you do realise that most schools don’t have pools either?.....except the private ones...

GintyMcGinty · 23/04/2021 23:53

@Nonmaquillee I think it's lovely to have children playing in the street

Completely agree. I think that the pandemic has turned the clock back a bit on it too as kids don't have after school activities anymore there has been a resurgence of going out to play.

I live in Scotland so our under 12s haven't had any restrictions on social distancing and it has been such a relief throughout lockdown to get my youngest (8) out to play every day when the weather has been dry.

My older one (12) couldn't go out until the latest lifting of restrictions and encouraging him to go out and hang out with his pals in the last few weeks after school has made such a difference to him and his wellbeing.

I really find these folk who are opposed to a normal childhood to be rather odd.

minniemomo · 23/04/2021 23:55

8 for noisy play, 9 for quiet talking or riding bikes etc. But there shouldn't be more than 6 anyway, according to covid rules (people seem to be forgetting it when they have kids)

minniemomo · 23/04/2021 23:58

@Wtfdidwedo

We weren't allowed in the street and I'm almost 50 - my mum thought it was a really working class thing to do

Nonmaquillee · 23/04/2021 23:59

@minniemomo

8 for noisy play, 9 for quiet talking or riding bikes etc. But there shouldn't be more than 6 anyway, according to covid rules (people seem to be forgetting it when they have kids)
Rolling my eyes at limiting numbers of kids playing together to six..... Joyless. Let them play, rules or no rules.
minniemomo · 24/04/2021 00:02

@Nonmaquillee

can I see my 19 year old daughter then, I'm told I can't currently (too far without staying overnight) yes I'm fed up that local secondary kids are driving up the covid rate which could result in me not being able to see her if hotel openings are delayed. Rule of 6 is for everyone there's no magic bubble that protects you until 18! Not seen my dd since December because she and I followed the law

Wandamakestoast · 24/04/2021 00:03

I am nearly 50 and we most definitely did play out in the street as children, even though we had our own back gardens. We’d cycle up and down the streets together, or go to the local fields and make dens.
Most people I speak to played out as kids, and feel that children nowadays sadly have far fewer freedoms.
Can I just check that all the posters on here are from the U.K.? As the world you describe of playing out in the street being frowned upon, and only supervised activities being allowed, is so unfamiliar to me that I am wondering if it’s the norm in other countries.

Wandamakestoast · 24/04/2021 00:06

minniomo, where do you live? As current rules are that we are allowed to stay away overnight in self-catering?

Foolintherain · 24/04/2021 00:08

[quote minniemomo]@Wtfdidwedo

We weren't allowed in the street and I'm almost 50 - my mum thought it was a really working class thing to do [/quote]
🙄

GintyMcGinty · 24/04/2021 00:14

@minniemomo But there shouldn't be more than 6 anyway, according to covid rules

No requirement for under 12s to socially distance and no limits on numbers in Scotland.

womanity · 24/04/2021 00:27

We all have huge gardens and the DC still play in the street, because in the street everyone can join in, it’s not about whose garden they are in.

They’re taking their first teeny tiny little steps towards independence by being allowed to scoot up and down a pavement.

After a crappy year, it’s absolutely joyous.

Wtfdidwedo · 24/04/2021 04:30

I played with friends in my or their garden, went to the park when a bit older. We were all the same, nobody played in the street. Like the above poster, my mother would have been mortified but it never occurred to me to suggest playing in the street because, well, no one did. We weren't wealthy or privileged in any way, just ordinary.

Why would someone be mortified about playing in the street if they weren't wealthy or privileged? What was there to be mortified about?

When going out and about in the car I would see children playing in streets, usually near blocks of flats, because they had no gardens. In such cases I think it was understandable, there was nowhere else outside for them to play.

You see that on television programmes, eg Call the Midwife, where many of the characters portrayed lived in flats. Children skipped, played games, football, etc. We did all that but in the garden or the park. It was really nice going to the park too, I loved it, rode my bike around it all the time. It was better than hanging about in the street.

I just don't see the difference between the park and the street, I'd consider any sort of playing outside in groups as equivalent. Some children ride their bikes around a cul de sac, you rode it around a park. What's the difference? The older generations I know mostly grew up in Welsh ex-mining terraces so their gardens were yards and backed on to each other. Children would go between houses and then go into the nearby woods and fields to play.

I can't see the correlation between kicking a ball against a wall and anti social behaviour. But then I live in a low crime area so would automatically link them.

School swimming pools certainly aren't the norm here either. There is one local secondary school with a swimming pool. There are no grammar schools in Wales, and there are no private schools in my county or my two neighbouring ones.

Jamboree01 · 24/04/2021 05:10

@Tinyspiky

These children are not in their gardens, they are in the street! That is bad, I don't understand why their parents allow it

EhConfused. Why is it bad? Children play out, it's called childhood.
OP you live in a street with lots of families, children playing out is to be expected. One day it will be your children annoying the neighbours. I'm actually aghast that you're a parent complaining about children playing when they've just been locked up for the best part of a year.
Oh and kids round here play out till dusk.

This.

Why don’t you offer them some ice lollies and let them carry on.

In the name of god, what is happening to the people in this world?!

Maggiesfarm · 24/04/2021 06:02

If people don't mind, it really doesn't matter. I think we have to accept that what people are used to varies, what seems odd to one is normal to another and none of it has much to do with being well off (apart from people who have swimming pools and not that many do!).

The person above is quite right, from the point of view of fresh air and exercise there is no difference in going to the park or hanging about the streets, except that the park is a designated area for children to play and adult people to relax and socialise.

My local park where I grew up, which was five minutes walk away from home, was a lovely place; whole families would go, grandparents, parents, children, babies in prams, when the weather was nice, sometimes taking picnics. Plenty of benches and a cafe selling drinks and ices. Children would walk through it after school with their friends. There was an area with a paddling pool, swings and slides for little ones, two tennis courts and a bowling green. The gardens and trees were lovely and the park had an aviary.

Where I now live there are cycle lanes and green chain walks in addition to parks so no need for anyone to congregate in the street.

It is interesting how people's perception and instinctive reaction to things vary.

Jamboree01 · 24/04/2021 06:20

Yes, it’s usually called real life for the majority of the population.

If children don’t have access to a garden, or a park, should they be confined indoors?

Again.

Shall we just lock up ‘working class’ children and be done with it?

MichelleScarn · 24/04/2021 06:31

They played with friends throughout their childhoods, of course. It simply wasn’t on the streets or at a recreation ground. As older children, it was at the watersports centre where they worked, at friends houses, at the tennis club, at the rugby club or after orchestra in the recreation area. Their friends came to us to use the pool or play badminton etc. what about the time at the stables as well, did they ever naughtily go for a hack on the stupendously expensive thoroughbred and make Rupert C-B enraged Grin

Jamboree01 · 24/04/2021 06:40

@MichelleScarn

They played with friends throughout their childhoods, of course. It simply wasn’t on the streets or at a recreation ground. As older children, it was at the watersports centre where they worked, at friends houses, at the tennis club, at the rugby club or after orchestra in the recreation area. Their friends came to us to use the pool or play badminton etc. what about the time at the stables as well, did they ever naughtily go for a hack on the stupendously expensive thoroughbred and make Rupert C-B enraged Grin
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midnightstar66 · 24/04/2021 06:56

8 for noisy play, 9 for quiet talking or riding bikes etc. But there shouldn't be more than 6 anyway, according to covid rules (people seem to be forgetting it when they have kids)

@minniemomo it's been nearly a year since this was true here. In Scotland children under 12 do not have to distance and are not number restricted, and rightly so! Even if they did - so what. At this stage I could not get upset about an extra couple of dc riding bikes outside. We now know the risk is tiny in these circumstances.

LemonRoses · 24/04/2021 07:12

Clearly a few from the coven over here with their blinkered idea that anyone who disagrees or leads a life different to theirs must be a troll. That limited perspective is what is truly sad.

Most children do not play in the street. Britain’s 11–15-year-olds spend about half their waking lives in front of a screen: 7.5 hours a day, an increase of 40% in a decade. That combined with school rather suggests that most children are not roaming the streets or estates but that is reserved for a subset. Neither is a subset I would not want my children to belong to (online almost continuously or street roaming). This false idea of teenagers happily chatting and swopping nail varnish in the local park is either blinkered vision or parental abdication of responsibility.

Where are these vast numbers of children with their whistles, their marbles and French skipping elastics playing sweetly whilst mother polishes the door knocker?
I’ve only ever seen them hanging around the stairwells and concrete playgrounds on inner city housing estates. Rarely was their feral play something to aspire too.

Risk taking, play, friendship are all important for children, but so too is parental control of those things to avoid excessive reliance on peers for decision making.

Indoctro · 24/04/2021 07:15

8pm due to small kids bed times as they can be loud.

LemonRoses · 24/04/2021 07:18

@MichelleScarn

They played with friends throughout their childhoods, of course. It simply wasn’t on the streets or at a recreation ground. As older children, it was at the watersports centre where they worked, at friends houses, at the tennis club, at the rugby club or after orchestra in the recreation area. Their friends came to us to use the pool or play badminton etc. what about the time at the stables as well, did they ever naughtily go for a hack on the stupendously expensive thoroughbred and make Rupert C-B enraged Grin
Not really wanting a fight with the coven but no, never really interested in ponies. Nothing to do with money either. We didn’t have much when the children were young. I think rugby club was about as classless as possible, with subs set at £5 per year. Orchestra was free. The pools were school pools in special schools. Hardly Eton or Althorp. Many of the children from the school were encouraged to ‘play outside’ or roam the streets free from parental control. That rarely ended well for them.
JaninaDuszejko · 24/04/2021 07:20

I didn't play in the street as a child for the simple reason that I grew up in the countryside, the nearest street was 10 miles away. But the neighbouring children would come and play with us on our farm and we'd roam about the fields as a big gang. No drugs or antisocial behaviour though!

DH grew up in a posh suburb of a large city (houses and flats there cost a fortune now but of course not all the flats have gardens) and he played in the street as a child. Our children have never played out though, our last house the speed and level of traffic on the street meant it wasn't safe, now we live on a quieter street but the houses all have good gardens so even when they play with the neighbouring kids it's in the front or back gardens.