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Prince Philip has died

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YellowPurple · 09/04/2021 12:06

He died this morning

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Mugginyouleftrightandcentre · 10/04/2021 18:51

I believe since his marriage Harry has talked about how he didn't understand racism or unconscious bias and has talked about BLM etc. To my knowledge the DoE has never discussed his sexist and racist remarks so I have to conclude he had not changed those opinions.

To be fair, Philip never ever claimed to be anything other than a very privileged man though did he? He never claimed hardship, he never really complained about his life, or declared himself to be an amazing person or anything did he. He was who he was, he knew he could say certain things because he was the Queens husband and no one would give a shit, he didn't give a shit what anyone thought of him because he didn't have to and he never claimed otherwise.

Alsohuman · 10/04/2021 18:53

You forgot his sister and her entire family dying in a plane crash @ancientgran. Apparently he was utterly devastated.

So you do think racism is a one way street @OrangeBlossomsinthesun?

Marmaladeagain · 10/04/2021 18:53

as always, stupid doesn't know stupid...

I used to work with the most tediously boring man who would arrive and sometimes literally tap dance for attention in a room of people chatting. I sometimes wondered what it would be like if he could see himself clearly and not as the entertaining soul he thought he was. I realised he really didn't need to know as it would be too cruel.

I guess that's the benefit of the stupid not knowing how stupid they are, it would be cruel really - that's why Twitter exists for them. Racist, bigot bingo keeps them busy all day and out of the way of the real world where none of us believe their hate soaked view of the world Grin

SueSaid · 10/04/2021 18:54

'To be fair, Philip never ever claimed to be anything other than a very privileged man though did he? He never claimed hardship, he never really complained about his life'

Yes imagine the amount of Oprah interviews he could've done to moan on about the hardships he endured in his childhood. Made of sterner stuff though he was resilient and got on with it.

ancientgran · 10/04/2021 18:56

@Alsohuman

You forgot his sister and her entire family dying in a plane crash *@ancientgran*. Apparently he was utterly devastated.

So you do think racism is a one way street @OrangeBlossomsinthesun?

Thank you, yes so much tragedy.

You know one thing I really admired about him and the Queen? When his mother turned up to the Coronation and other later events in her nun's robes they never tried to hide her, people thought it was funny, this mad old lady who had spent years in a psychiatric hospital in her funny outfit but she was there with them, not hidden away.

HypocriteHunter · 10/04/2021 18:58

Well I haven't seen the need to refer to another person by the colour of their skin or ethnicity. I use their name. If I have to describe a person I've always used hair colour, height, eye colour instead

And also felt the need to insinuate someone was racist despite not knowing their ethnicity or skin colour.

I am more than aware of racism thanks. I do not seek it in every single utterance. That way lies madness.

It is also not useful to deflect what could be construed as questionable behaviour by accusing others of racism. Bad behaviour is displayed by all colours and ethnicities.

And, by the way, you do not need to be racist, sexist or misogynistic to cause offence.

You offended me.

SueSaid · 10/04/2021 19:05

'You know one thing I really admired about him and the Queen? When his mother turned up to the Coronation and other later events in her nun's robes they never tried to hide her, people thought it was funny, this mad old lady who had spent years in a psychiatric hospital in her funny outfit but she was there with them, not hidden away.'

Exactly. A thoroughly decent man it seems.

HypocriteHunter · 10/04/2021 19:05

Indeed.

WeekendCEO · 10/04/2021 19:15

So the definition of a thoroughly good man is one that doesn’t try to hide his mentally ill mum. Raise the fucking bar! You’re all getting a bit desperate now.

HypocriteHunter · 10/04/2021 19:17

My bar is plenty high enough.

ancientgran · 10/04/2021 19:20

@WeekendCEO

So the definition of a thoroughly good man is one that doesn’t try to hide his mentally ill mum. Raise the fucking bar! You’re all getting a bit desperate now.
How many high profile people in the 1950s would have done that? Maybe you aren't old enough to know what a huge thing that was back then.
ancientgran · 10/04/2021 19:21

The tribe in Vanuatu who worshipped him have lost a God. I wonder how he felt about being a living God and I wonder if he will still be regarded as a God now he is no longer alive.

ilovecarbs90 · 10/04/2021 19:22

So the definition of a thoroughly good man is one that doesn’t try to hide his mentally ill mum. Raise the fucking bar! You’re all getting a bit desperate now.

Have you not heard of the Queen's hidden cousins? The RF has historically always covered up anything that could cause them 'embarrassment' (awful as that is) and it does say a lot that Prince Philip didn't feel the need to do so with his mother. Especially as we are talking about very different times.

WeekendCEO · 10/04/2021 19:22

My bar is plenty high enough.

Clearly not.

C130 · 10/04/2021 19:25

@JaniieJones

'You know one thing I really admired about him and the Queen? When his mother turned up to the Coronation and other later events in her nun's robes they never tried to hide her, people thought it was funny, this mad old lady who had spent years in a psychiatric hospital in her funny outfit but she was there with them, not hidden away.'

Exactly. A thoroughly decent man it seems.

Err if you say so. Hmm
SueSaid · 10/04/2021 19:26

'am more than aware of racism thanks. I do not seek it in every single utterance. That way lies madness.'

It is tedious isn't it. Racism has become the buzz word. Everyone and everything is racist. It really isn't and must do a disservice to anyone who has experienced real racism. It seems nowadays that any negative opinions on someone from the black and Asian ethnic community is automatically racist. Just because. It'd be like saying if you don't like Alan Carr's shows you're a homophobe.

That said I don't agree with some of PP's comments but his service and achievements over 70years are also what counts.

HypocriteHunter · 10/04/2021 20:01

I’ve lived my life well and can take someone with imperfections. I cannot take offence at those who mean no harm and indeed for those can no longer speak for themselves.

I prefer to save my anger and judgement for those who actually wish harm and wish misfortune on others because of their difference.

I wish I’d met so many perfect people in my life as there seem to be on here.

I’ve lived quite a few years now and haven’t met one person who has not inadvertently caused offence.

Once again, no one is defending what was said. But just celebrating a life lived well and someone who did, in the opinion of many, good with his life.

Not many of us can claim that.

Frownette · 10/04/2021 22:18

I thought this one had been pulled for a sec!

It's such a shame people keep leaving flowers instead of donating the money to charity as he wished, it's a real waste. Money and flowers.

I'm not sure if he specified certain ones?

Frownette · 10/04/2021 22:19

Good for the flower trade though I suppose.

HypocriteHunter · 10/04/2021 22:37

For me it is a disservice. I can’t talk for others but hate and finding offence where there is none helps me not. It does not change things.

Having been at work the last few days, I’ve only just managed to watch a few clips.

And looking at his children, all moist eyed and speaking so lovingly of their dad, tells me all I need to know. And when it has been echoed by strangers it must be a comfort. More so when they are living their worst days in the public eye. And being gracious enough to share their love and sorrow with those who also feel their sadness.

A woman has lost her husband of so many years. Children and grandchildren are grieving. And yet still the nastiness and accusations continue.

How many would like strangers to say things about their family or loved ones in the same circumstances?

Accusations fly easily. It just serves to inflame the hatred. It is a shame that compassion and tolerance don’t come easier for some.

And for the one or two who may know or remember the battles I’ve fought on here about this, you know how I feel.

I have no time for the modern witchfinders.

🌻 🌻 🌻 D x

jessstan2 · 10/04/2021 22:39

There's no such thing as a 'thoroughly' good man. Everyone has flaws, it's called being human. Prince Philip was no different. However he was remarkable in many ways and did a lot of good.

SueSaid · 11/04/2021 08:43

'And looking at his children, all moist eyed and speaking so lovingly of their dad, tells me all I need to know. And when it has been echoed by strangers it must be a comfort. '

Yes, other than twitter trolls no one has a bad word to say about him.

I'm sure if he was a racist or if he treated staff and the public badly we'd have heard about it.

I've found it quite moving seeing all the tributes. Someone who endured so much showing how to put duty and service above his own feelz. The younger generation should take note, but they won't.

Roussette · 11/04/2021 08:49

The younger generation should take note, but they won't

There are some truly wonderful 'younger generation' you know... I don't think they should all be lumped together as bereft of sense of duty or service.

ImpatiensI · 11/04/2021 08:55

@jessstan2

There's no such thing as a 'thoroughly' good man. Everyone has flaws, it's called being human. Prince Philip was no different. However he was remarkable in many ways and did a lot of good.
I really like that. It's a very good tribute and fits the man. Brew
SueSaid · 11/04/2021 08:56

'There are some truly wonderful 'younger generation' you know'

Sorry yes. Some of the younger generation, the horrors on Twitter for example, bleating on about being kind yet mocking an 'old white man'.

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