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Clergy families

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ClergyFamilyNameChange · 14/03/2021 20:25

I've name changed for this in case there's some chance someone could identify me from this, although I doubt it.

Another thread has just triggered some shit memories in me this evening, and I wondered if anyone else was in a similar boat or had similar issues? It feels really inappropriate to post on that one though as it's obviously its own issue.

My father was a minister for thirty-five years. He was kind, sympathetic, over-dedicated, optimistic and really believed in a kind gentle god. He eventually wore himself into a total breakdown by trying to be good and kind and loving and supportive.

Despite his hard work, many people still spent forever complaining about this, that, whatever - the committees, the church politics, the quarrels - and would turn up at all hours to rant about their issues. He was used as a verbal punchbag and I still remember the sickening feeling of having to be well behaved and quiet upstairs as loud voices downstairs went on for hours in church meetings in the house. They treated our home like a drop in centre, including sending any drunks or addicts our way. There were countless times he would miss dinners or events or days out because some person absorbed in their own drama would demand he run over to them.

I am not excusing him entirely here. He was overly naive, he put them first and shouldn't, he should have had firmer boundaries. He shouldn't have been a minister really. And maybe it suited him to either be constantly out the house or be constantly working.

But equally, some abusive parishioners used Christianity as a way of insisting he had to be perfect and meek and mild while they lashed all their issues out on him.

I had two questions if you've read this far. Again this is not about that other thread and the issues there.

First, if you're in a church, is it better these days for clergy families - do they protect them from this shit, is there any safeguarding?

And second, did anyone else grow up in a home with issues like these - or was it just me and my family?

OP posts:
Saltyslug · 19/03/2021 23:44

And yes, yes, yes to those on this thread who thought it was their place to say "BUT this" and "BUT that" who had never experienced it themselves. Yes, that is just like what it was like with sniping at the time from other members of the congregation

^^ this!

I think some people can only understand if they have experienced it.

BlowDryRat · 20/03/2021 10:00

This is a fascinating thread. Thankyou OP and to all those who have posted about their experiences. I'm a member of a church that doesn't have a paid ministry. The various positions are undertaken by ordinary members in addition to paid employment, family responsibilities etc. Almost every adult member of a congregation has a role to do and is assigned a pair of members as 'ministers' to look after them and in turn have ministering responsibilities to a couple of other members themselves. It means that the overall pastoral and practical responsibility is shared out but even so, whoever has the position of leading the congregation has that post for about 5 years at a time and a lot to do. I have a lot of respect and admiration for them and their families and try not to bother them at all, but I know others take advantage and expect them to be on call at all times. Their families get used to them getting calls and having to pop out at odd hours, being absent a few evenings a week and all day on Sunday. It's tough, especially with young children. I know 5 people with husbands in this position and they're all suffering from depression because of the pressure.

pandapop17 · 15/04/2021 08:22

5 people suffering with depression! Sounds like an awful system.

Interested in this thread?

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Bumpsadaisie · 15/04/2021 08:29

I know that many clergy really struggle in their marriages because they can't set boundaries.

You need very firm boundaries to do that work.

I think as a priest you become a figurehead/receptacle for peoples projections about you - idealising and denigrating simultaneously.

I know people react so differently to us as a family if we're out with dh in his collar.

People with problems with authority will see you in a certain way.

People who idealise you in another way.

My dh is a hospital chaplain so we don't have the parishioners in our home issue to negotiate.

MaidEdithofAragon · 15/04/2021 09:26

I have family members who are clergy families. It's awful I think. So much pressure, no privacy, spending a lot of time with some quite unhinged and obsessive people. My family member gave up the priesthood as it was so awful. They could see the family was suffering. So much happier now. I think it's one of the worst jobs...you can't even go home at the end of the day. It follows you wherever you go. Sending love to all you clergy families esp the children who didn't sign up for this life.

PKNY · 15/04/2021 09:58

De lurked to say you're not on your own with this, especially feeling or knowing that the children are second/third priority for their parents. That's very hard to come to terms with as an adult.

Lots of articles out there about this, you only have to Google "preachers kid" to find them. I've also spent time with my therapist talking about this issue as it still does affect me many, many, many years later.

It's a very weird way to be raised. I'd never heard the term 'boundaries' or even understood what they were until my late twenties.

I wish every PK on here peace of mind.

Good luck xxx

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