Meg and Harry supporting race and mental health charities in UK

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Brilliant to hear this. They have approached three charities in UK including Mind and a charity to increase diversity in the media and press.

Great, doing good based on their experiences.

I can't see anything positive other than "we made loads of money off the family name and landed Netflix deal and found happiness whilst not speaking to any of our families" is that catchy a title for the next biography either. That's the truth too. None of the truth leaves a good taste in the mouth.

Cokie it's a rehash for the digital age - back when Harry was 20 digital newspapers weren't quite the thing - that's why the Standard was a paper city and London people bought daily - it was the latest news on the day after work before constant news on your phone was available. Different times.

Anyway late here leave you Australians to it with insights into UK daily life again.

Here's the link we needed at the start!

www.journalism.co.uk/news/presspad-aims-for-150k-a-year-in-donations-as-new-sister-charity-is-confirmed/s2/a804638/

That's for Presspad.

@MiaowMiaow99

Here's the link we needed at the start!

www.journalism.co.uk/news/presspad-aims-for-150k-a-year-in-donations-as-new-sister-charity-is-confirmed/s2/a804638/

That's for Presspad.

So they live in a $15million house but their donation to press pad was a long way off 150k? Are we supposed to be impressed or something .

I mean it is better than nothing but I donated a fiver to a charity the other day which I bet is a higher % of my annual income and I refrained from issuing a press release about it.

I refrained from issuing a press release about it

Neither did I....................Sorry, but who are you?

@Marmaladeagain

You sound incredibly bitter.

You ok hon?

[quote Mummy195]@Marmaladeagain

You sound incredibly bitter.

You ok hon?[/quote]
I know, right?!

So they live in a $15million house but their donation to press pad was a long way off 150k? Are we supposed to be impressed or something confused.

What ugly thoughts you have.

In response to several posters, Meghan and Harry have said that the 'Arche' in Archewell is from the Greek word meaning 'source' or 'beginning'. If that is the case the pronunciation would be 'arki', as in archetype.

I would also add there seems to be a concerted effort to turn this thread into the usual delete-worthy bunfight.

The whole debacle has become so complex with ‘sides’ pitching one against the other.

There are aspects of the interview, which have been totally disproved. Others which we know to be true. Some unclear. Harry was undoubtedly scapegoated for William. Meghan took the place of baddie and Katie of lovie in the press. It has forever been so. NB I didn’t read anything about her until after their exit btw and the first I heard was the shameful Danny Baker incident.

They thought they were going to do something special, make sweeping changes within the RF and hit the ground running. Then Meghan realised her role was to be quiet, get her head down and take direction. I understand now why the RF had a policy of bringing up the royal children differently, favouring the monarch.

From what I saw, Meghan was welcomed into the family with open arms. She clearly isn’t someone, who sees herself in a supporting role and is definitely unforgiving of her family. Her father didn’t fail to go to the wedding. He had just had heart surgery and wasn’t allowed to fly. Why is this never recognised?

I believe a lot of conversations and motivations within the RF have been misunderstood on both sides. Harry said the race issue was discussed before they were married. Was this his family asking him if he had thought about if their future marriage could take the shit from the press? Look how the press hounded Diana for supposedly having a love child. Maybe this was when skin colour was discussed along the lines of genetic throwback and how they would cope with the same accusations? I’m not saying she didn’t feel different.

What H&M have said is now on record and that will be investigated. For now, I think they should leave the U.K. alone. Pushing in this way is only going to polarise opinion. Wounds should be left to heal in private. For this reason, I don’t think supporting U.K. charities is a good idea atm.

Maybe minorities are glad that a woman of colour has talked about her experiences of racism in UK? Maybe it validates their own experiences?

Maybe people who suffer from mental health issues feel glad that she talked about her own issues and allegedly not getting proper care? It may validate others feelings and experiences?

This is a chance either to bury our head in the sand and rally around the past.

Or have frank and inclusive conversations to bring about change

I don’t know why any charity would decline funds from H&M, it is a bizarre suggestion that they should only take money from people who praise the RF. So us Republicans cannot set up charities or donate to them? And people who have complained about racism, sexism, mental health, police brutality etc should be shunned? And charities should not accept donations from these groups?

@OuiOuiKitty

I did think that too, if the donation kept them a long way off their 150k target, it does make you wonder how much it actually was.

Clearly M&H have picked organisations close to their hearts.

But was it for the headlines or to make an actual difference?

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Do M&H supporters not think it would be wise for them to focus on the US? Looking back at Britain - and its charities and so on - seems to be just scratching at a wound. Harry has basically trashed his family and there was an air of distaste about the British public at large, so it would be prudent imo to let that door close until bridges can possibly be mended.

They have scored a hit in the US. Concentrate on efforts there.

There is the additional factor that all the flights to and from the UK will be expensive, especially if private flights. Who is going to pay for them? Also they will soon have two children. Why be away so much ? Not environmentally desirable either, but I guess that particular Issue went out the window a while ago when they bought their vast, sprawling mansion house.
They’re doing it to put two fingers up to the RF of course.

Young people by and large don’t know much about the RF and don’t much care. . They didn’t watch the wedding, don’t know Harry’s history and lack the life experience to see red flags or recognise certain behaviours. All they hear is ‘racist!’ and there’s a knee jerk reaction.
I have spoken to a few and once you get beyond the surface there is no real knowledge there. In the US they don’t understand the role of the RF or the protocols. It’s easy then to believe that things are black and white. ( An apposite phrase).

Some of the young aren't that informed yet. RF are a backdrop to our everyday lives and political system and every generation of young become more aware as they get older. Same arguments every generation - then they look around and say let's reform what we've got rather than throw baby out with bathwater.

Prince Edward etc downwards are part of what the wider UK want to see of significant slimming down of RF and significant changes will be afoot with Charles, not to mention William.

When I was younger I too didn't know much about how our system works, but the younger generations in UK will also learn it as backdrop and through their everyday experiences they'll also become aware of what twonks H&M are.

William's children are the future and will become the only news in town, same as Sarah Chatto isn't of much interest in the current set up. (that's the equivalent of who Archie would be when William's King).

The young become older and understand sometimes you have to reflect and adapt.

H&M will not be popular going forward at all as the younger ones gain more life experience. I know H&M aren't actually that young themselves and will be the "oldies" in due course etc - such is life.

What seems apparent is that the young do know they'd never treat their own grandmother like this.

There isn’t much to relate in M and H to for most young people in the current climate either. M is nearly 40 and a woman from a different culture , and her values are celebrity values. Most young people are trying to survive , find jobs, afford to live etc. Especially in the current climate. Relating to an entitled couple one of whom wears an Armani dress costing a fortune for an interview bemoaning her poverty Is not going to be easy. Their ‘charity’ work is not going to affect the lives of most people in the UK much. Their mental health problems also are hardly on the same level as someone on benefits living in a high rise flat who can’t afford any sort of therapy.

I have ‘young people’ in the U.K. and the US. None of them really ‘get’ what they are ‘for’. So claiming it’s all ‘nasty old white people’ is a bit simplistic.

They see a couple of very privileged people complaining about money and stress. As one in the US says - ‘all very well when you aren’t juggling childcare, a full time job, a horrible manipulative ex, a mortgage and vet fees, while having to scrape together/borrow money go to counselling because you were recently sexually assaulted’.

Can't imagine H or M being popular turning up to a charity event, they've publicly said it's boring.

All those people in the past that were pleased to see them feel a bit of a kick in the stomach.

RF are part of the mundane backdrop of UK and political life. They open up local SEN centre etc and it gets in the local newspaper, not the national news. Occasionally does - as was the case with the school last week when William was apparently "meant to have something prepared to say". The RF are to avoid personal opinions is how it has worked until now.

H sold M a pack of lies of what would be on offer - it's a job with rules and a bit boring. Not a fairy tale where a heroine turns up and asks "where do you want me". The answer being: over there observing and learning the ropes would be good.

We know that at least one woman turned him down before and if the press is to be believed, this was because they didn’t want to live the life of a goldfish in a fancy bowl. Yes I guess we’ve all had boyfriends that we know in our guts isn’t right for us, or his lifestyle isn’t something we’d want, or he had ideas or beliefs we couldn’t really stand - we may kid ourselves that ‘it can work’... and then we hit our teens and get real!

It's the first I have heard of this and I find it utterly bizarre.

They have chosen to make their life in the US. Why do they now want to support UK charities which come which will presumably involve a high degree of media coverage. The UK media which they apparently despise.

Meghan clearly wasn't able to manage her own mental effectively. She was incapable of accessing support despite having the means to do so. The majority of people with mental health issues won't be in that fortunate position. I really think she needs to resolve her own issues before she starts preaching to the nation.

Is this part of the new brand? Spreading love, compassion and understanding the challenges of mental health or some other such bollocks?

The woman is a complete car crash. I find it almost impossible to take her seriously. That comment extends to Harry too so it is nothing to do with the colour of her skin.

H always had a reputation of being a bit of a moaner too though. I think being his gf would have been hard work.