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Students thrown off course for throwing a party.

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Cotbedy · 07/03/2021 11:37

Basically, a load of students held a party of around 16/17 people. They got reported, they all got a £400 fine, apart from the host who got a £10,000 fine.

Then their Uni kicked them all off their courses for bringing the Uni into disrepute.

I think this is probably a fair and reasonable punishment, but DP thinks the Uni have gone too far and they're being unfair.

I'm curious to hear others' thoughts on the matter! Fair or unreasonable?

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itsgettingwierd · 07/03/2021 12:29

They must have known that was a consequence?

My ds attends college and they've been warned of similar.

You hit the adult world you face consequences like an adult.

The same way other professions can sack their employees for bringing the workplace into disrepute.

Downthefarm · 07/03/2021 12:29

It's a step too far, as they've been fined already.

JustAnotherPoster00 · 07/03/2021 12:29

NuLabour should never have introduced tuition fees.

Neo liberalism started by the witch Thatcher and continued by subsequent PM's

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Chloemol · 07/03/2021 12:30

It depends what the uni rules are. They broke the law, so got the fines

Did they break Uni rules, if so then yes if the punishment is to be kicked out they derserved it

GiveMeNovocain · 07/03/2021 12:30

"Shame universities don't bother to take such action against all the rapists on their courses." - completely agree. Plus I bet they've wrongly fined. I'd definitely take my day in court as the law has been wrongly applied in so many cases and there's no way those fines are proportionate.

BigSandyBalls2015 · 07/03/2021 12:31

Too harsh, they were fined and that should have been it. Students have had an unbelievably shit time and they're going to have huge debts without the full uni experience IMO. £9k a year to be sitting in their rooms online ... it's a scandal. So is paying hundreds of pounds a month for a house they've barely been able to live in. A party of 16/17 people, crack on .... it's not a rave with thousands. The house could have had 8+ living in it!!

NewModelArmyMayhem18 · 07/03/2021 12:31

The students could be on a course that requires them to be the most upstanding of citizens (medicine, law, etc?), so that might explain the harsh punishment. But the rules should be applied equally across society. Young people seem to be being made scapegoats in this respect whereas those professionals who should know better including police, HCPs, teachers even have been fraternising together and getting off scot-free.

Youngatheart00 · 07/03/2021 12:32

The right thing for the uni to do. They need to learn actions and consequences!

HeronLanyon · 07/03/2021 12:32

If the university warned them this would happen then I think it is right.
Now the reasons for warning won’t have been altruistic supporting lockdown pandemic emergency I’ll bet. I’d hazard a guess they wanted students still on campus paying rent and unable to claim compensation etc. Only way to do it was to have harsh penalty for rule breaking.

So behind the scenes I think there’s a load of crappy policy going on with students as fall guys.
Still - students are capable of knowing what they sign up to and complying. They didn’t.

WhenISnappedAndFarted · 07/03/2021 12:33

It's fair

Igglepigglesgrubbyblanket · 07/03/2021 12:33

I think it's unreasonable. The fine is the punishment.

NewModelArmyMayhem18 · 07/03/2021 12:34

I also agree that a year down the line from when the pandemic started, intelligent young people should be capable of following the rules and delaying gratification.

AllMyPrettyOnes · 07/03/2021 12:34

@Youngatheart00

The right thing for the uni to do. They need to learn actions and consequences!
Is a fine not enough? Why aren't people who are employed sacked as well as fined? Do they not need to learn consequences too?
Beautiful3 · 07/03/2021 12:35

I dont think that is fair. The fines are punishment enough.

AllThatFancyPaintsAsFair · 07/03/2021 12:35

I'm wondering if there's an agenda here, maybe you've namechanged but I'm a little cynical about a first post from someone who is “curious” about a something that isn't really something anyone would be curious about

Is one of the students your child? Are you from the nameless university or something else

There's not really much to say is there, if a uni chooses to enforce one of its own rules why is that anyone else's business

Any student who hasnt got the braincells necessary to stick to a rule that everyone in the country knows isn't really suited to an academic life in the first place.

Stirmecrazy · 07/03/2021 12:36

This does make me wonder wether Unis would enforce such punishments on their own. If a lecturer was found to be in breach of covid rules would they be out of a job. I wonder
I am continually amazed how we talk about students being adults with responsibilities for their actions and yet we have spent the last year controlling all their actions , where they can live, what they can do , when they can leave campus when they can go , the quality or lack of quality of their education. While dictating that they should still pay full price in tuition fees and in some cases accommodation fees.
There is no sympathy and if anything this sector of population is continually vilified
We have all had restrictions made on our life this last year but I think students are a sector which has been hit most hard with least sympathy.

EllaPaella · 07/03/2021 12:36

So if you are a politician or MP, someone in a position of authority who should be leading by example who breaks the rules all you have to do is make a pathetic attempt at apology, you get to keep your job and all is forgotten after a few weeks.
If you are a young adult, probably a little immature and make a stupid mistake then you get kicked out of uni and your entire career fucked forever.
A fine is reasonable, kicking them off the course is over the top imo.

DenisetheMenace · 07/03/2021 12:36

Igglepigglesgrubbyblanket

I think it's unreasonable. The fine is the punishment.“

Though that depends who is paying it. Wonder how many will be bailed out by parents?

Stirmecrazy · 07/03/2021 12:38

@AllThatFancyPaintsAsFair

I'm wondering if there's an agenda here, maybe you've namechanged but I'm a little cynical about a first post from someone who is “curious” about a something that isn't really something anyone would be curious about

Is one of the students your child? Are you from the nameless university or something else

There's not really much to say is there, if a uni chooses to enforce one of its own rules why is that anyone else's business

Any student who hasnt got the braincells necessary to stick to a rule that everyone in the country knows isn't really suited to an academic life in the first place.

Sounds perfect for Government though!
BungleandGeorge · 07/03/2021 12:39

@NewModelArmyMayhem18

The students could be on a course that requires them to be the most upstanding of citizens (medicine, law, etc?), so that might explain the harsh punishment. But the rules should be applied equally across society. Young people seem to be being made scapegoats in this respect whereas those professionals who should know better including police, HCPs, teachers even have been fraternising together and getting off scot-free.
You would certainly have to declare it to the professional body and they would make a decision. At least there would be some sort of independent hearing to present evidence though, it wouldn’t be a case of immediately being struck off. I’m not convinced it’s proportionate myself
morningtoncrescent62 · 07/03/2021 12:39

I don't think universities kick students out unless as a very, very last resort. Is there a backstory? Were there multiple warnings? I find it hard to imagine that it was a first offence, given that students are now customers.

Stirmecrazy · 07/03/2021 12:40

@EllaPaella

So if you are a politician or MP, someone in a position of authority who should be leading by example who breaks the rules all you have to do is make a pathetic attempt at apology, you get to keep your job and all is forgotten after a few weeks. If you are a young adult, probably a little immature and make a stupid mistake then you get kicked out of uni and your entire career fucked forever. A fine is reasonable, kicking them off the course is over the top imo.
Completely agree!
RootyT00t · 07/03/2021 12:40

Ive known a few instances pre covid where students were kicked out for bad behaviour. Bringing the uni into disrepute is not taken lightly.

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Cotbedy · 07/03/2021 12:40

It's not my first post, I've name changed. I'm a regular.

No, I'm not associated with any of the students or Uni. My friends husband is a police officer in the same area and this account came from him.

It's interesting how many people think it's fair!

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Charm23 · 07/03/2021 12:41

Rightly so! They're university students which means there at an age where they are perfectly aware about the global pandemic and that it's illegal to socialise in this way right now. They entirely deserve it.