Does anyone else think that the Harry & Meghan show isn't going to be that explosive?

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I really doubt that loads of dirt will be raked, or muck spread. I'm guessing that there will be a few "it was hard to speak" type complaints, which the media will blow up, but that it's not actually going to be as exciting as we're all being led to believe?

As for Charles cutting them off financially - of course he bloody did. They said they didn't want the job. They wanted to leave the job,not do the work but still get paid? Right.

This is what I'm unsure of, aren't they saying they didn't want to be working royals without the protection for Archie so that's what made them go it alone because they needed to fund it?

As predicted the clips show a load of he said/she said gossip complete with dramatic pauses.

I thought they were better than this, #be kind #love always wins etc etc.

She's her father's daughter when it comes to media gut spilling.

Just here for the drama!!

I wonder why they allowed the interview to be shown on ITV when it’s the home of that horrible cunt PM? They did have some say apparently. I would have petty AF and said absolutely not about to being shown on ITV.

But the bit about Kate...I’m sure Meghan could have used a different anecdote (assuming there was more than one story that was misrepresented?) rather than throw Kate under the bus like that. They know she can’t and won’t defend herself. That was pure evil I thought. Done in such a mean girls way. “I don’t say this to disparage Kate, she’s a good person” then SLAM!

I hope the palace completely ignore them and don't dignify it with a response.

@Candleabra

Did Meghan say that the marriage certificate (the real one?) from 3 days earlier hangs on her wall at home? I assume they signed something at the windsor wedding. Can you have two marriage certificates from a legal perspective? The whole thing is so odd. I can't imagine they would say something that could be so easily disproved. Also why didn't they just say no to the big wedding? Harry isn't an heir, no expectation. The whole build up to the marriage was huge too, expensive engagement dress, photo shoot etc.

She said the vows from that hang on the wall.

They couldn’t have a legal wedding with just turn and the Archbishop in the garden. You need witnesses for a start, not to mention banns and license. Harry also needs permission from the Queen due to his position in the line of succession.

It wasn’t a legal thing.

@VanillaIce how is it evil? That story is from 2018 so all this time M has been criticised for making K cry. She gives her side & it's evil?

@TheAuthorityofJackieWeaver

Just here for the drama!!

I wonder why they allowed the interview to be shown on ITV when it’s the home of that horrible cunt PM? They did have some say apparently. I would have petty AF and said absolutely not about to being shown on ITV.

I can't imagine the BBC would have touched it with a barge-pole

She was asked about making Kate cry & said actually it was me who cried but more due wedding stress, blah blah & Kate sent flowers. She didn't throw Kate under the bus.

@teentipans

This is a quote!!!

""It turned out, the Queen was finishing a church service in Windsor and so she was going to be at the house," Meghan told Oprah. And when Harry heard the news, he asked Meghan: "Right, Do you know how to curtsy?"

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@teentipans I'm really not sure what your point is, but if he was taking her to meet his family or taking her to a household where his family might be you surely must see he's to blame for not teaching her basic protocol?

The Queen is being painted as Mrs Lovely Person. The wealthiest woman in the world who'll be popping her clogs in the next few years. And has written a Will.

I haven't watched the programme myself, I've read the papers and seen the clips, but it seems to me that Oprah has basically given H and M a platform to air their views whether their views are true or not. They don't seem to have been questioned at all or corrected (as in Archie doesn't qualify to be a prince until Charles comes to the throne). Oprah could have done a lot to shore up the truth with some to the point questions if she had done a bit of research first. Thus is the worst type of tv journalism as nothing has been verified - a little bit how the tabloids report on the RF, except this time H and M are doing the same thing

@livinlavida2021

Why are people so concerned about the context of the statement about archies skin?

Why can't people just accept others account of racism - people don't do this for sexism or homophobic slurs? Beg for the context or else the argument is invalid - why can't you just accept their account and accept racism is highly likely in a royal family?!

I definitely believe there's both overt and covert racism in the RF and the Queen is an enabler in the least - (Phillip).

I believe Meghan was bullied even if in the typical Brit passive aggressive manner by some members of the family, where she questioned what's happening and what she's feeling but couldn't point to it because it's hidden - and people around her (other RF members) either couldn't see it or pretended not to.

I believe some of this MAY have been born out of racism but I don't believe every account of racism or homophobia or sexism. You wouldn't typically see Meghan and think "black" if you had no idea of her ancestry but yes, I believe some people hate that she has a black mum - therefore mixed race.

Yes ignore them - I don’t believe a lot of it. The mental health support - surely this could have been arranged privately. What exactly did they expect the RF to do?

There was no need to tell ‘their truth’ they could just live their lives well and happy out of the spotlight.

Shame the brothers relationship has broken. They’ve lost their one true friend.

@JamesMiddletonsMarshmallows your point was why didn't Harry tell her.

My point was he did but they didn't expect to meet her at that point.

Now if the situation was in July 21 we are meeting the Queen but we will never discuss protocol etc fair enough but that's not what happened

By saying 'we got married' when it's clear they really legally couldn't have, it makes them look a bit batshit and undermines their other claims.

It must have been a blessing. I think perhaps 'in their heads' that was their 'real' wedding as they said their personal vows.

Claiming they didn't want the big wedding is crackers. I'm sure if they'd wanted something more private they could have had it.

@VanillaIce

But the bit about Kate...I’m sure Meghan could have used a different anecdote (assuming there was more than one story that was misrepresented?) rather than throw Kate under the bus like that. They know she can’t and won’t defend herself. That was pure evil I thought. Done in such a mean girls way. “I don’t say this to disparage Kate, she’s a good person” then SLAM!

Interesting choice of words there. PURE EVIL for Meghan to set the Kate story straight. What's your adjective for Kate for sitting back and letting Meghan get all the hate in the press with regards to the story? The RF could have put a statement out refuting it but they didn't. They didn't have to admit it was the other way round but could have simply said the story was untrue.

The not getting help for therapy does confuse me as surely they could find this through a discreet contact.

They didn't have to admit it was the other way round but could have simply said the story was untrue.

Why was that not an option?

'it seems to me that Oprah has basically given H and M a platform to air their views whether their views are true or not. They don't seem to have been questioned at all or corrected (as in Archie doesn't qualify to be a prince until Charles comes to the throne). Oprah could have done a lot to shore up the truth '

Yes, Oprah was like a star struck super fan. Why not ask 'how come you're estranged from your father because he 'shared his truth' to the media yet you're doing exactly the same to Harry's family, bit contrary no?'

I've always thought that Harry was a colossal twonk and this just seals the deal.

HE has made racist comments that I have fired people for the like of, and lived happily with horrors like Prince Philip and Princess Michael (the former of whom gets his racism played off as gaffes), and turns around and claims surprise at comments?

It's all very well saying "I had to get my family out of there", when you made no proactive actions in settling her in, or taking it steady, helping her with protocol etc. Then to storm off without a proper plan that made assumptions on the grounds that he'd be treated with kid gloves as he had his whole life.

I happen to be going through a legal dispute with an ex business partner at the moment. He is similarly laser focused on proving every last bit of perceived harm against him, and sees us as irredeemably bad etc.

But it rarely proves the case in life that one party is wholly responsible and the other party wholly to blame, or that meanings were correctly inferred from what was said or done.

Comment about Archies skin tone - was it something harmless misinterpreted, something crass but unharmful, or was it harmful?

Incident with Kate - did Kate say something awful, or was Megan ready to cry at the drop of a pin because of pre existing stress. Was Kate mortified, guilty, or did she just realise Meghan needed cheering up?

Were her keys and passport taken away, or is it normal for security reasons for them to be held securely?

There are so many different constructions on each and every incident, and what usually holds true is that once you dislike someone, you dislike everything about them. That goes for both sides.

What strikes me is the absence of balance. All this awful stuff emphasised, and nothing about the good stuff - Charles walking her down the aisle etc. Even in a "it might have seemed like a nice gesture, but actually I wanted my mum and the Palace refused that too" way.

Whatever the truth (unlikely to be presented by either side accurately), its clear that Harry has handled this badly from day one, and it's amde the situation worse for them, not better.

'By saying 'we got married' when it's clear they really legally couldn't have, it makes them look a bit batshit and undermines their other claims.'

It's all so sad and quite depressing. If the palace does respond I hope it is a curt 'we are all deeply hurt by these false allegations'.

Well, she is independent and was clearly ignorant and naive joining the institution plus wasn't prepared to always be in Kate's shadow.

Good actress too

I'm afraid I just straight-up don't believe that Meghan was blocked for getting help for her mental state. I thought Harry had been in therapy for years?

Sadly it seems that in the media and online people still haven’t learnt from what happened with Caroline Flacks suicide. Nobody is perfect, everyone is trying their best, I have to believe that people bully and hate her so much because she is mixed race. Well done for Harry for getting her out of that toxic environment. I just hope the public will give them some respect and breathing space now.