The latest royal family drama

[Kinsters]

It's like a TV show. How embarrassing!

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/royal-aides-reveal-meghan-bullying-claim-before-oprah-interview-7sxfvd2c3

The latest is that Meghan is accused of bullying staff. Harry and Meghan then responded that Buckingham Palace was using the Times to peddle false stories/a smear campaign. So presumably the "leak" comes from Buckingham Palace/the Queen.

It's all so childish. Why can't they all just be grateful for the extremely cushy life that they have!

I'll be watching the Oprah interview. I think the royals never come across well in these kind of things. Like Andrew's awful interview...he's just so out of touch with reality. And I think that's a characteristic that Harry unfortunately shares with him.

Should employees at the palace be 'silenced' because their narrative does not fit with Harry and Meghan's. Apparently. But Meghan's voice must be heard.

Re They just wanted to make their own money. It was all about "financial independence"

Megan is an actress, she can go back to work when she chooses. I am sure Harry can find a career. There is no need for all this nonsense. (saying they want privacy while selling their privacy)

The constant comparison with Andrew is misleading. No-one wants to defend Andrew, no-one is trying to.

Andrew is not in the press right now as he has completely stepped back from public life. There is nothing current to write about him. You expect the press to regurgitate the same allegations against Andrew everyday??

You can guarantee if there are fresh allegations about Andrew it would be all over the news. If he did an Oprah interview it would be getting just as much press. He is out of sight and out of mind.

Megan is an actress, she can go back to work when she chooses

I don't believe it would be that easy.

@Mockolate

They could have easily got rid of the press attention by keeping themselves to themselves, conducting philanthropic works privately, not giving interviews, not writing articles for major publications, not issuing press releases.

Why should they have to keep quiet, why shouldn't they be able to speak out if they were treated terribly by the press (which let's face it, they were)

Because it’s sheer hypocrisy. They’re playing Diana’s game of trying to use the media when it suits them and complaining about it when they don’t like the result. I can’t work out whether they’re disingenuous or stupid but if they really had a beef with the media attention they’d shut the fuck up, close their social media accounts and get on with their lives.

@PretendSpeedGun

The constant comparison with Andrew is misleading. No-one wants to defend Andrew, no-one is trying to.

Andrew is not in the press right now as he has completely stepped back from public life. There is nothing current to write about him. You expect the press to regurgitate the same allegations against Andrew everyday??

You can guarantee if there are fresh allegations about Andrew it would be all over the news. If he did an Oprah interview it would be getting just as much press. He is out of sight and out of mind.

I agree. It's all gone quiet because nothing new has happened, not because it's blown over. As soon as any new information comes out (if it does) it will be front page again.

This is turning into the royal equivalent of “Yes, but Corbyn ...” whIch is the inevitable response to any criticism of the government. Criticise any member of the royal family and the first reaction is “Yes, but Andrew ...”
So bloody predictable

Yep. And it will continue. When one member of the RF and his wife are mercilessly criticised for stuff that others are allowed to get away with, I and others will say, whether you like it or not.

BTW @VinylDetective you wanted the link of journalist being pressured to make up stories about MM. I put it on the other thread.

You didn't reply. Did you see it?
Here it is again in case not. The Sun is asking someone to assassinate Meghan's character.

twitter.com/KaindeB/status/1367015773235986434

@knittingaddict

Are we doing away with things like courts, juries and all that sort of stuff for everyone or just him or the rest of the royal family?

Anyone else would have been interviewed under caution by the police or US authorities. I haven't ruled out that happening, especially with Ghislaine Maxwell going to trail. Let's see what happens.

The law often moves slowly but it is the law. Just deciding someone is guilty without benefit of the legal system isn't OK just because the legal system hasn't got to them yet.

I don't blame him not going to the US, not at all unusual for a country to send law enforcement people (police, FBI or whatever) to another country to interview and gather evidence. If they haven't done that yet I guess you will just have to be patient. These sort of investigations can take years, not unusual at all. Anne Sacoolas (not sure of the spelling) isn't keen to come back to the UK and face justice and in her case a young man is dead.

But what has that got to do with MM bullying staff? Should her staff be denied protection because someone else might have done something wrong? Where does that end, you can't complain of a burglary because the burglars uncle by marriage committed murder?

Using the media when it suits is exactly what all celebs do - no matter what their background.

With H&M and the RF it remains to be seen who plays the better game.

Frankly i think it is entertaining nonsense and i want more of it. I want the Crown to get a bloody move on. Forget the Diana years - I want the Wills&Katherine/Harry&Meghan years! now

Yes, I saw it @Roussette. The Sun, yeah. And? Not exactly The Times, is it?

trying to use the media when it suits them and complaining about it when they don’t like the result

Why should they have to put up with stuff like racism though (the leaving hospital with a chimp is the one that immediately springs to mind, absolutely foul)
Can you not see there's a difference between wanting to promote good things on your own terms, such as charities, mental health etc, or be criticised for every little things people don't turn an eye at or publish positively for doing the same thing (tenderly caresses bump versus attention seeking,, for example)

It just goes to show that the press are desperate to dish the dirt and will coerce commentators to do so. Sadly a huge swathe of the public buy into the Sun, DM, Express gutter press

Piers Morgan is on This Morning in 15 minutes. Can he get through the interview without mentioning Meghan? Place your bets...

Piers Morgan seems disturbingly obsessed with her.
What with the press, and him, I'm not surprised they moved away.

@Mockolate, you can’t have it both ways. You’re in or you’re out. Diana discovered that. They’re doing exactly the same thing and appear to be astonished that the result is the same.

@Roussette - would you class the Times as gutter press? They are the ones printing the latest revelations? Are they more or less reliable than so Oprah Winfrey? What about Vogue?

It is interesting being on different threads on here. I have been following Salmond vs Sturgeon Round 2 and the debate is there without too much mud slinging.

From what I have read

1. The emails are written proof that Jason Knauff FELT his staff were being bullied by Meghan. This is not proof that they were but he felt concerned enough to put in an official complaint.

1. This reflects badly on the RF HR as within this email he was said to have written: “I remain concerned that nothing will be done.”

Everything else is ‘sources’ and she said, he said.

It is absolutely lazy and typical that the retorts well at least he’s not a ‘peado’ etc. This is the behaviour my children resort to when being reprimanded but my sister did this. Just because someone else behaves badly doesn’t absolve them of their naughty behaviour.

Is it a culture clash, possibly, was Meghan actually bullying who knows, is it a smear campaign possibly maybe not directly by BP but by staff that feel their voices are not being heard.

The Sun and The Times are both owned by News Uk. I think there were more successful IPSO complaints made against the Times last year than the Sun.

They are all snuffling about for click bait nonsense articles for the benefit of their advertisers. You'd be very foolish to put more trust in any one publication.

To be accurate about Prince Andrew he hasn't been linked to paedophilia, I know the girls involved were young but they weren't prepubescent.

would you class the Times as gutter press? They are the ones printing the latest revelations?

No. I did confuse it with the DT at one point. However, the story is fed from one of PWs staff so there is obviously an agenda here. The Palace kicking back in advance of the Oprah interview. Much like they did with Diana when she spoke it and was called 'unhinged, mad' etc

I think these two think that anyone who dares to disagree with them are " bullying" them

You are correct ancientran.
However, at the time as I understand it, some of the girls at Epstein's NY mansion were below the age of consent and they were groomed, procured and coerced. And one of them has sworn an affidavit that she was involved with PA
How far he gets investigated will all depend on whether Ghislaine Maxwell does a plea deal. He case comes up this summer.

*Her case