Harry and Meghan are expecting their second child

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Wishing them all the best

What racism did Meghan have to content with? The chimp thing was vile, the blackamoor brooch hideous. What else?

They are a funny lot all round!

Congratulations to the beautiful couple.

I thought the Queen's statement saying that H&M had chosen to walk away from a life of service (not exact words but the gist), was a but below the belt, to be honest. Considering H&M have said that they want to do charity stuff, the Queen implying that they don't want to be of service anymore is unfair.

I don't think H&Ms "up yours" reply was the most elegantly worded comeback ever, but I can understand the hurt and offence behind it.

My thoughts exactly SirChing
The Palace statement was a bit of a dig I thought.

Yet the only person who gets called manipulative, gold digger, attention seeker, grabby, bad mother, narcissistic - is Meghan.

That’s not true.
Meghan simply has more many more facets to her which means you can find fault or defend her in more regards.
I didn’t like her initial engagement interview which to me seemed very affected and saccharin. But others felt it was because that’s just how Americans speak, because she’s an actress etc.

Kate gets so much stick for being dull, dutiful, uninspired, wet, anorexic etc ( often from the same people that like to defend Meghan). It’s like some sort of Royal Family top trumps on here.

Beatrice and Eugenia were ridiculed for years because of their dress sense, non stick like figures and for being work shy etc . It’s only now because people feel a bit sorry for them because of their father’s behaviour and because they’ve grown into their looks that people are kinder. At the end of the day gossiping about royalty has been a British past time for hundreds of years.

But Kate, Beatrice and Eugenie don't get the hundreds of threads on here.

No one can deny that

@SirChing what the Queen was saying was,

you can't have your cake an eat it,

if you want to belong you need to play team not for yourself only,

and also, that there is no free lunch.

So the royal boondoggles to get back home a few times a year (and the free expenses, self marketing and prestige that come with it) need to go. Fair enough I think. I don't want my tax money to fund Harry's business thank you very much.

Their reply was also patently not addressing their support to the Queen but to the UK etc in general. Quite a pívot from when they left. Seriously there was no need to get into that kind of public spat. Not smart since when the froth comes down, they are going to realise they had so much more to lose. Just shocking PR really - they are dead on the water with the charities this side of the pond and will have to work on remedies.... The press must be scanning who is getting fired as a result of this! The saga continues.

Any Questions last night was very interesting.
I don’t follow the royals other than as most people do on News at Ten, etc..
I couldn’t quite work out what all the media fuss was about and the Buck House statement etc. Thought it was more or less agreed, done and dusted months ago.
One of last nights panellists pointed out that all the coverage happened on Prince Andrew’s birthday.
Aha. The penny drops. Deflect, deflect, deflect

No saga to continue. But OTOH the RF maybe yes...

@Roussette

But Kate, Beatrice and Eugenie don't get the hundreds of threads on here.

No one can deny that

But why would they? They are years down the line now.

Actually brilliant fun to see what everyone said at the time.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/the_royal_family/1084759-Prince-William-has-confirmed-he-will-marry-Kate-Middleton-next-year

Mind you, it’s not until page 2 she gets called “ horse faced” .

There’s also one after they got engaged.That ring did not go down well.

One thread!

Not quite like the 200 plus of MM's until MNHQ put a stop to them!

Beatrice and Eugenie aren't 'years down the line' either.

Wow, I didn’t realise these threads still were ongoing .

Mainly popping in to say hi to Rousette 👋.

Since I am here...

I wish them all the best with the baby, I think that news is amazing. Miscarriage is awful and even if you never forget, another baby after is a gift. And I think is is lovely for Archie to have a sibling.

I thought the B&W picture of them was beautiful, with one caveat (below)

I think that their PR agency should be sacked. Their statement (after the Queen’s) came across wrong. Showing the soles of ones feet in a photo should probably also be avoided in a multicultural world.

Big 👋🏼 to you Hippo !

(p.s. I hope that's a wave and not something rude, I'm not good at emoticons )

Definitely a wave 👋 Rousette .

Hope you are having a good evening.

All good here!
helps massively
As always haha

@Roussette

One thread!

Not quite like the 200 plus of MM's until MNHQ put a stop to them!

Beatrice and Eugenie aren't 'years down the line' either.

Oh dear lord, don’t be obtuse .There are a years worth of bloody threads. I’m not posting them all.

It was just to illustrate the point that Kate got plenty of grief (despite having at all nothing to slag off) , no one liked the ring or engagement interview, no one thought the marriage would last, no one thought the public should pay for the wedding ....just like H&M.

@Roussette speaking of remedies - one of the Duke's ex army friends (who lives in LA, hint hint) went on record today to say their announcement was being "taken out of context". Oh the back pedalling has already started? Desperate move.

For Rousette

Oh dear lord, don’t be obtuse

Like you... I am really not going to spend my life counting threads but I can honestly say that the number of threads disparaging Kate will not number those doing the same for Meghan.

Thx for gin wine and cake hippo I like all of them to excess !

Corona maybe it was taken out of context? Just a thought of course

I didn't like the Palace announcement to be frank

There’s a difference between being in public service, and being in the business of philanthropy.

In service to the public = giving the public whatever they need. Opening a sewage works in Hull, splendid ceremonies to gawp at, supporting troops, welcoming foreign dignitaries etc.

Business of philanthropy = making money by eg building a software company, running a hedge fund, being a retail mogul, and donating that money to your chosen causes.

The former requires a lot more knuckling down and doing stuff you may not want to do. The latter, done properly, comes with a heavy responsibility of the difference your wealth and contribution can make to people, so you have to choose what you do very very carefully (eg Gates foundation investing billions in toilets and sewerage, hardly sexy or woke).

H&M strike me as entry-level “philanthropists” who probably do want to do good things, but also don’t mind basking in the reflected glow. Perhaps, some might say, doing the good things in order to bask.

[quote Coronateachingagain]@Roussette speaking of remedies - one of the Duke's ex army friends (who lives in LA, hint hint) went on record today to say their announcement was being "taken out of context". Oh the back pedalling has already started? Desperate move. [/quote]
Not sure how any statement that was officially released by either the Queen or Harry and Meghan could be taken out of context. It wasn’t as if it’s a one liner said in mid conversation.

Hopefully now the statements will stop and any pettiness will end. It’s really undignified.

@Roussette what do you mean, out of context like we were not talking about them leaving the royal service duties? but still wanting to keep the freebies and the prestige associated with it? Having their cake and eat it? Half in and half out? While doing the US celebrity circuit and getting paid for it? In the name of (universal) "service"? But still wanted to be associated with the Crown because it pays on balance?

Laughable and won't fly with the British public and even less with the British taxpayers. I am sure the government also said to be careful about where the funding for the "new life" comes from. May fly in other places though, good luck to them.

Laughable and won't fly with the British public and even less with the British taxpayers

You're talking about yourself hear and not the whole of the British public. Take note. Not everyone agrees with your view.

Royal service 'duties'.