Oops, Meghan Markle won her case!

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www.google.com/amp/s/www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/meghan-markle-wins-high-court-privacy-mail-on-sunday-b919462.html%3famp

She won.

Well quite Puzzled

It was never going to get to that point but I’ll repeat Im not so sure this is a good thing for press freedom. I’ll await someone with better legal knowhow to give their view.

Surely being new parents both would appreciate their respective biological parents too be it in exile in Mexico or Spain etc. They have enough wealth privilege to share amongst their families surely. We don’t need individual extended family members to start monetising and weaponising all their dirty laundry away from the court room in serialising their forthcoming reality drama and books etc.Hewitt is the only one to sensibly live a quiet exile life away from his former lifestyle. As others have noted other spares are desperately under cover for obvious reasons protected by royal privilege.

The concern trolling by all the Meghan haters on this thread is hilariously sad. All the faux concern for press freedom and rights. Pffbbtt!

It’s here that I read it as reported by media lawyer Mark Stephens

Meghan: Mail on Sunday privacy damage 'runs deep' www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-56028583

I’m not aware that I’ve trolled @JingsMahBucket. If I have then please report my comment. And it is certainly something to be concerned about if press freedom is hampered. May not be your view but it is mine.

All the 'you said this but that didn't happen because you never called'. Why tell the person who already knows what they did, what they did?

Having had dealings with an emotionally abusive parent and an emotionally abusive in-law, shitty parents often have very different recollections of previous events. As an example, shitty in-law remembers DH leaving home at age 18 as a joyous event where he was tenderly waved off into the big wide world when the reality was that he was thrown out onto the street at 11pm in just the clothes he was wearing for the crime of "being an ungrateful shit" after he mentioned that he was thinking of moving into a place of his own. I can see why she wrote in the letter what her perception of events was an opposed to his.

Surely being new parents both would appreciate their respective biological parents too

Some parents don't deserve appreciation.

@HeadNorth

MM has won her case but thank goodness the good people of Mumsnet can still find a reason to criticise her and Harry and throw unwanted shade. It will be a great relief to the red top hacks that all their nastiness and lies have not been in vain and there remains a market for their vicious clickbait.

Well said

@bonfireheart

Is this a safe space for me to say out loud that the Queen is overrated? She seems like ultimate awful MN mother in law.

Ask the Duchess of Cornwall. The Queen is not the mother in law of Meghan.

What Chaz said up-post, and the Court made several criticisms of MM's conduct and the way that her case was presented/run. The court should beware “the cocky claimant who … confidently presents the factual and legal issues as simpler and easier than they really are and urges the court to be ‘efficient…“.
It's not over, and the costs are mounting.

@ResIpsaLoquiturInterAlia

Do we need to know the details of her dysfunction family? Apparently some of her relatives are publishing books soon anyway! She has much historical and ongoing baggage to be dropped on media soon anyway.

Perhaps they should all get along and play nicely and not continue to live retrospectively. She is supposed to behave according to British royal family norms not run away with royal family members and be hostile to family etc. Not very ideal family role model.

Royal family norms? You mean only marry a virgin, have minimal contact with your own children, send them away to boarding school, be emotionally distant from your children, carry on long term affairs behind your partner's back, become embroiled with a paedophile and trafficker (and probably worse) use your position to benefit you financially, use transport paid for out of the public purse for your own social events, make racist remarks, use your position to influence politicians and legislation..... etc ad infinitum

If Meghan has baggage, the royal family has landfill.

@Campions you’ve summed up the royals quite well there. It mystifies me why they are so loved and respected.

@Campions

I agree with all of your post.
I also will use this line when MIL starts carping about MM vs saintly Qu.
"If Meghan has baggage, the royal family has landfill"

It mystifies me why they are so loved and respected

I honestly think for some, they are just something to hang on to, when the world is bonkers, politicians are beyond awful... they bring a sense of normality for some. And bear in mind the MSM are partly responsible for feeding us an endless diet of royalty whether we like it or not

However... that is changing as the royal teatowel owning brigade die off and younger people either don't care or actively think they should be consigned to history. I'm old and can see both sides. We've been indoctrinated over generations... stamps with the queen's head on, passports in her name, money with her face on etc etc. It's like we know no different.

Palace officials create a carefully managed image of them, we can only know so much and at the head is the Queen... a woman who has chosen never to give an interview so we don't know what she thinks, she's an enigma. We don't know her character whatever anyone says, we don't. We see her as a dutiful, wise old woman, there is nothing to contradict this.

At the moment, the alternatives are non existent because there is no worthy figurehead around, the alternatives are appalling and divisive and given that a large percentage still support Johnson, I wouldn't trust the public to vote for the right sort of person to represent our Country instead of a Monarch.

I do think things are going to change greatly for the RF in the next few years, bring on a slimmed down version and let's see how that works for starters.

@ChazsBrilliantAttitude if you know a way to get hold of PA's private correspondence relating to peadophilia or sexual abuse without hacking or breaking and entering please let me know.

We journos do our best but we're not criminals and most of us don't have tattler level connections. There is only so much hunting we can do. That's the police's job in case you forgot.

@ChazsBrilliantAttitude

Don’t you think that PH would know that the press would love to find evidence that the money didn’t go to charity. Why would he hand the DM/MoS an open goal when they are already gunning for him? Even if you think he is a grifter, it would be such an obvious mistake to make.

Well there's still no clarity on where Royal Foundation funds donated to Travalyst and Sussex Royal have ended up even though it wouldn't be hard to provide it. The only surprise in leaving himself open to question on this is why his expensive PR team have let him.

I'm not so sure this is a good thing for press freedom

I've no expertise in this area, but short of a paper actually being shut down (which seems unlikely when they can afford excellent lawyers) I've always supposed they look on it as a cost/benefit thing ... as in if the clicks will earn far more than any possible damages then it's worth taking a punt

If Meghan has baggage, the royal family has landfill

Absolutely love this one - in fact I might just pinch it and risk the copyright lawsuit

@Campions Quite. Don't forget marry your cousin. Be a naturalized foreigner and hate forriners.

@amateursleuth

The letter read very much like something intended for public viewing, in order to put MM's version of events across. All the 'you said this but that didn't happen because you never called'. Why tell the person who already knows what they did, what they did? Looks like something that was expected to go public and was written accordingly.

Bearing in mind the judge disagreed with you, the amateur part of your username is probably correct.

@Roussette

It mystifies me why they are so loved and respected

I honestly think for some, they are just something to hang on to, when the world is bonkers, politicians are beyond awful... they bring a sense of normality for some. And bear in mind the MSM are partly responsible for feeding us an endless diet of royalty whether we like it or not

However... that is changing as the royal teatowel owning brigade die off and younger people either don't care or actively think they should be consigned to history. I'm old and can see both sides. We've been indoctrinated over generations... stamps with the queen's head on, passports in her name, money with her face on etc etc. It's like we know no different.

Palace officials create a carefully managed image of them, we can only know so much and at the head is the Queen... a woman who has chosen never to give an interview so we don't know what she thinks, she's an enigma. We don't know her character whatever anyone says, we don't. We see her as a dutiful, wise old woman, there is nothing to contradict this.

At the moment, the alternatives are non existent because there is no worthy figurehead around, the alternatives are appalling and divisive and given that a large percentage still support Johnson, I wouldn't trust the public to vote for the right sort of person to represent our Country instead of a Monarch.

I do think things are going to change greatly for the RF in the next few years, bring on a slimmed down version and let's see how that works for starters.

Wise words indeed.

@Roussette

It mystifies me why they are so loved and respected

I honestly think for some, they are just something to hang on to, when the world is bonkers, politicians are beyond awful... they bring a sense of normality for some. And bear in mind the MSM are partly responsible for feeding us an endless diet of royalty whether we like it or not

However... that is changing as the royal teatowel owning brigade die off and younger people either don't care or actively think they should be consigned to history. I'm old and can see both sides. We've been indoctrinated over generations... stamps with the queen's head on, passports in her name, money with her face on etc etc. It's like we know no different.

Palace officials create a carefully managed image of them, we can only know so much and at the head is the Queen... a woman who has chosen never to give an interview so we don't know what she thinks, she's an enigma. We don't know her character whatever anyone says, we don't. We see her as a dutiful, wise old woman, there is nothing to contradict this.

At the moment, the alternatives are non existent because there is no worthy figurehead around, the alternatives are appalling and divisive and given that a large percentage still support Johnson, I wouldn't trust the public to vote for the right sort of person to represent our Country instead of a Monarch.

I do think things are going to change greatly for the RF in the next few years, bring on a slimmed down version and let's see how that works for starters.

Wise words indeed.

Good!

Good. If she was right then she was right and that should be recognised.

Hopefully this will have the added benefit of making the press not bother reporting on them at all and we won't have to hear about the latest lecture on how we can all Do Better! 👏🏼 👏🏼 👏🏼 from their multi million dollar estate in sunny California.

Bring on a slimmed down version and let's see how that works for starters

This was said to be Charles's "aim", but then with Harry gone and Andrew unsuitable for public viewing it seems to have come to pass anyway

Which is a bit tough for those who seem to value having a gurning royal to decorate their event. I'd say it might be more work for the Lord Lieutenants, but their uniforms are pretty boring on the whole and their hats far less interesting

@HmmSureJan

Good. If she was right then she was right and that should be recognised.

Hopefully this will have the added benefit of making the press not bother reporting on them at all and we won't have to hear about the latest lecture on how we can all Do Better! 👏🏼 👏🏼 👏🏼 from their multi million dollar estate in sunny California.

I was reading your post and started to think 'wait a minute'. Then I read the last 2 sentences and thought Ah! there it is.

I'm afraid I do find it hard to stomach empty, rather clueless lectures from very wealthy privileged people. I won't apologise for it

I'm afraid I do find it hard to stomach empty, rather clueless lectures from very wealthy privileged people. I won't apologise for it

That must include W&K, Charles then too.....