Oops, Meghan Markle won her case!

[MyOhMySimon]

www.google.com/amp/s/www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/meghan-markle-wins-high-court-privacy-mail-on-sunday-b919462.html%3famp

She won.

We don't know either way and probably never will, but all the same I'd be interested to see any proof that "charity" ever saw a penny of it

Okaaaaay... now accusing Harry of being a thief. Got it.

Understandably Harry doesn't trust the DM. I wouldn't either.

So you think the person who created the charitable organisation can’t be trusted to pay the money into it?

As said I can't know that either way, but remembering the number of RF initiatives which turn out to be little more than PR and grifting exercises, I'm conscious that mixed motives may come into play

Or to put it another way I'd no more trust the RF to tell the straightforward truth than I would the Mail

While we’re scrutinising charitable donations made by Royals, an investigative journalist really needs to take a look at the Prince’s Trust, and the freebies that Charles and Camilla never lose an opportunity to accept

Quite so - and if we're adding examples, Andrew's Pitch@Palace arrangements might well be worth a glance too

Okaaaaay... now accusing Harry of being a thief. Got it

Bit of an odd thing to post, perhaps; to do that we'd need evidence and there isn't any beyond a long and depressing history of RF deceit, which is why I said we can't know
But then I'm sure you knew that ...

Is this a safe space for me to say out loud that the Queen is overrated? She seems like ultimate awful MN mother in law.

Mixed motives? What... like stealing from a charity you set up and have contact with and know the people involved, and who has just tweeted about the support from Harry with a new NHS initiative?
Doubt they'd be doing that if he'd pretended to give them money, then didn't
That's a new one! Or should I say a new low....

@bonfireheart

Is this a safe space for me to say out loud that the Queen is overrated? She seems like ultimate awful MN mother in law.

It sure is 🤣

But can't say if she's awful or not. Probably (kind but) more really strict and a staunch rule follower - that can grate on children/grandchildren/in laws though.

Yes, I saw the Invictus/NHS thing, Roussette - looks good on the face of it doesn't it?
However before making too many assumptions I'd prefer to know just how much of the grunt work Harry's doing, and exactly how involved he is beyond a few video lectures ... and as said so often, that does mean know as opposed to listening to a bit of tired PR spin about how tewwibly, tewwibly caring he is

Yes it does look good. And what you are saying about Harry and how involved he is... well... you can say that about any celebrity who is the public face or a charity, or for instance Kate or William. No different. She is famous for 'a few video lectures'. How much grunt work do they do for their charities?
Why should harry be singled out?

As for the 'tewwibly', that is just juvenile from you

What you are saying about Harry and how involved he is... well... you can say that about any celebrity who is the public face or a charity, or for instance Kate or William. No different

Quite right - I can and I do, as any number of posts on MN show

This is exactly why I've referred to "RF deceit" rather than just Harry's; he's mentioned here because of what the thread involves, but IMO he's actually no different from the whole grifting lot of them, and is merely following the long and depressing pattern already set

That's good that your criticisms are across the board as far as the RF. Only fair.

The letter read very much like something intended for public viewing, in order to put MM's version of events across. All the 'you said this but that didn't happen because you never called'. Why tell the person who already knows what they did, what they did? Looks like something that was expected to go public and was written accordingly.

@PaddingtonsSister

Entitled woman who wants all the perks of being in the media and not the drawbacks

exactly , shes ok to air everything provided it paints her in a good light

Don’t you think that PH would know that the press would love to find evidence that the money didn’t go to charity. Why would he hand the DM/MoS an open goal when they are already gunning for him?
Even if you think he is a grifter, it would be such an obvious mistake to make.

@amateursleuth

The letter read very much like something intended for public viewing, in order to put MM's version of events across. All the 'you said this but that didn't happen because you never called'. Why tell the person who already knows what they did, what they did? Looks like something that was expected to go public and was written accordingly.

I agree with this. No clue on the legal case, but I'm very cynical that MM believed that letter would be private.

I'm delighted she won. Her dad is a scumbag.

@amateursleuth

The letter read very much like something intended for public viewing, in order to put MM's version of events across. All the 'you said this but that didn't happen because you never called'. Why tell the person who already knows what they did, what they did? Looks like something that was expected to go public and was written accordingly.

Yet the judge who has seen all the evidence did not agree with you.

@isitspringyet

Wasn’t the letter written with a plan to publish it? Written for the wider audience? I’m not legal minded but didn’t her friends leak it to people magazine and that’s what motivated her father to publish?

yes it was , people seem to be forgetting that , she only got the arse when her father gave to the daily mail to defend himself about the crap she says about him . she is happy to air anything about her life provided it paints her in a good light ,then suddenly shes not worrying about her privacy

I just wish they would just go and be private and stop calling themselves royal. I totally get that they didn’t want to be royal anymore, who would! But stop making money off your connections. Without Harry and his royal connections she would still be a two bit actress. I thought she was brilliantly refreshing when she first came on the scene with him but it seemed to fall apart so quickly.

@Boardeduplife

I just wish they would just go and be private and stop calling themselves royal. I totally get that they didn’t want to be royal anymore, who would! But stop making money off your connections. Without Harry and his royal connections she would still be a two bit actress. I thought she was brilliantly refreshing when she first came on the scene with him but it seemed to fall apart so quickly.

Did ye, aye?

Don’t you think that PH would know that the press would love to find evidence that the money didn’t go to charity

I'm sure he would, just as most of the RF will be aware there's a lot the media would love to know about any number of things, many of them of legitimate public interest

Unfortunately though they've had a lot of practise in chiselling the system so that the public only know what it suits them to divulge, and all that public money buys a hell of a lot of influence and advice

The only thing that concerns me is whether this judgement will manacle the freedom of the press. Any lawyers about as to whether that is likely.

I saw an article ages ago implying that this may well be the case if she won. It’s all very well some saying great she won, but if it’s at the cost of press freedom I don’t think it’s a good thing at all. Just wish I could remember where I saw the damn thing.

I haven’t read the judgement yet but will try to do so over the next few days. I thought she’d win on copyright but not privacy but unlike the judge I’ve not seen all the evidence.

Good for her.

MM has won her case but thank goodness the good people of Mumsnet can still find a reason to criticise her and Harry and throw unwanted shade. It will be a great relief to the red top hacks that all their nastiness and lies have not been in vain and there remains a market for their vicious clickbait.

@bonfireheart

Is this a safe space for me to say out loud that the Queen is overrated? She seems like ultimate awful MN mother in law.

I couldn’t agree more. I think the whole concept of a royal family is totally over rated. They are such a dysfunctional lot.

I thought she’d win on copyright but not privacy but unlike the judge I’ve not seen all the evidence

Obviously I've not seen it either, but we all saw what happened with Paul Burrell at the point when he was due to enter a witness box

As excuses go that one was right up there with Dallas Bobby and "it was all a dream!!" (showing my age there ), but did anyone really imagine the RF would risk Meghan giving evidence publicly?