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NannyGythaOgg · 10/02/2021 23:41

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ISaySteadyOn · 20/02/2021 14:48

Sometimes I wonder how much female depression in general is more to do with outside madness than brain chemistry. Brain chemistry is v. convenient as then society doesn't have to change anything

TheOrchidKiller · 20/02/2021 15:20

@SirSamuelVimes & @LivinLaVidaLoki
Completely agree with you about your thoughts on depression/CBT /medication & the situation being the problem, not the wiring or chemistry in your brain.
That was my experience of depression some years back, & was perhaps why CBT & medication didn't work for me? (I'm not knocking either approach entirely because some people find they help. But not for everyone). I remember going to a sympathetic GP & he listened to my list of problems & said, "No wonder you're depressed."

I often feel that life now is very similar to when I was depressed- it's an effort to do things, it's lonely, etc etc. I don't think I'm actually depressed (stressed & anxious, yes) but more bored, unfulfilled, trapped. Exercise, being outdoors, finding things to do, etc, well, it goes so far, but it isn't quite enough.
What helped me get out of depression was time away from the situations that were making me unwell, & being allowed to go where I wanted, with who I wanted, on the days I'd got energy to do it.

Love to all mums who don't feel good enough right now. You are good enough, & then some. In an ideal world we wouldn't get irritated by our children. But in an ideal world our children would be perfectly behaved at all times. And that in itself would be a bit weird.

starfish88 · 20/02/2021 15:22

That was what Valium was used for in the 50s wasn't it. So women could smile nicely and give less of a shit about how shit everything was. I agree that's what it feels like now. And why I gave up counseling, along with zoom sessions not helping in the way face to face did, but I agree it felt like gaslighting, my feelings are very much proportional thank you very much. I'm tempted to go back when all this is over and say 'see...' but possibly not the best use of my money.

I have started taking high dose vitamin b though and that is helping a bit with the brain fog at least.

I hope everyone else struggling either gets the help they need, if they want or manages to battle though until we are on the other side of this pandemic. It can't be long now.

SirSamuelVimes · 20/02/2021 16:16

I could get on board with being off my face on valium right now. Plus the kind of hard-yet-elegant day drinking they do in shows like mad men. A martini at 4.30pm, that sort of thing.

thefallthroughtheair · 20/02/2021 16:34

I sometimes wonder if society is trying to medicalise itself out of a lot of problems rather than looking to change the root cause of those problems. It appears to be easier and cheaper but of course it isn't long term. I remember an article a few years ago about how so many of us have pointless intellectually-degraded jobs which make us feel worthless and it really rang true...all the increased form-filling and tick-boxing that goes on - teachers, lawyers, medics, police officers etc. So many professionals complain about it but it's also relevant to jobs like cashier, where you used to have to actually tap in amounts whereas now you just scan etc etc. And because tech is so much more complex now we understand less generally so for eg computer hardware obviously but also things like electrics where people used to be able to fix stuff but now can't. It's about feeling like life is totally out of control and no one will trust you with anything. Obviously lockdown has made that a lot worse: we can't even be trusted to make our own decisions about who to see or how to shop - really the most minor things. So gradually your sense of autonomy is taken away. Just a thought.

MercyBooth · 20/02/2021 16:38

DM has had a fall and broken her wrist. So now has her wrist in plaster and a sling.

thefallthroughtheair · 20/02/2021 16:39

Oooh daytime drinking mad men style. Wearing a fabulous dress. And heels (tho I can't wear heels!)

thefallthroughtheair · 20/02/2021 16:41

X post mercy.
Flowers

smallandimperfectlyformed · 20/02/2021 16:49

I am sorry about your mum MercyBooth I hope she heals soon.

Evenstar · 20/02/2021 17:02

@BogRollBOGOF it has helped me to know that someone else has not managed to keep up with their yoga. I am a good few years older than you and after my yoga class shut down last March I just couldn’t motivate myself to carry on, especially on Zoom. I have now reached the point of feeling too stiff to start again. I think maybe we are just asking too much of ourselves at the moment, just getting up and getting washed and dressed feels like an achievement.

I’m not sleeping well either, I spent an hour lying awake in the middle of the night in my own bed, then 3 hours half dozing under my weighted blanket in the spare room.

Sorry to hear about your Mum @MercyBooth 💐

MercyBooth · 20/02/2021 17:10

Thank You Flowers And i agree with the posts about trying to medicalise women rather than make things better for us societally

justasking111 · 20/02/2021 17:15

My ankles are stiff in the morning, take a while to ease up, I am sure it is all this inactivity. I really need to do more than housework and walk around the supermarket. The police presence has finished me off walking wise.

Blobby10 · 20/02/2021 17:19

Feel so much for all of you who are struggling xxx have no words of wisdom as I’m lucky that my three children are adults xx they have their own issues but at least we don’t have to face home education and the dreaded ‘daily exercise’ x which wanker of a politician/scientist ever thought that limiting human being to ‘being allowed’ one trip out of their home per day was the right course of action deserves shooting 😡

Gratefulrunner · 20/02/2021 17:52

So much truth here about medication to cope with external society and problems, medicalising to deal with society’s problems etc. I had a bout of depression a few years ago and took sertraline but there was so much crap going on in my life that I needed it to cope

ISaySteadyOn · 20/02/2021 17:53

@MercyBooth, I am sorry to hear about your mother Flowers

justasking111 · 20/02/2021 18:27

@MercyBooth poor mum, how frustrating for her.

Just realised mothers day will be my second in lockdown. Shitty shit.

CruCru · 20/02/2021 18:28

Sorry to hear about your mum, Mercy.

I’m getting a bit cross. I went onto Nextdoor (because I don’t hear enough about missing and found cats) and that “Look him in the eyes” advert comes up every three posts. It’s bloody excessive.

MercyBooth · 20/02/2021 18:33

inews.co.uk/news/politics/governments-review-emergency-powers-parliament-citizens-liberties-880465?ito=social_ifb_theipaper&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwAR3_2SHN7uag69zabuIfRbwVCnPDCaK9JknmU_SMOMqdhbQHblCgDwpp1KE#Echobox=1613820001

Government’s review of emergency powers may lead to MPs losing say over restrictions on citizen’s liberty
EXCLUSIVECritics fear the review of the Civil Contingencies Act may lead to ministers seeking to bypass Parliamentary scrutiny of emergency laws

MercyBooth · 20/02/2021 18:35

Thank You for the nice wishes for DM Flowers Managed a video call earlier. Didnt think my laptop could do it Was done via fb.
DM is 85 tomorrow so might do another one.

TheOrchidKiller · 20/02/2021 18:45

Wishing mercy's mum a swift recovery (& not too much additional stress for mercy).

ISaySteadyOn · 20/02/2021 18:46

@CruCru

Sorry to hear about your mum, Mercy.

I’m getting a bit cross. I went onto Nextdoor (because I don’t hear enough about missing and found cats) and that “Look him in the eyes” advert comes up every three posts. It’s bloody excessive.

I want them to look my sobbing DD1 in the eyes and explain exactly why they think her mental health, happiness and social development is unimportant. Our children are worth something too. There is more to life than Covid.
Taswama · 20/02/2021 18:48

Sorry to hear about your mum Mercy .

I agree this will be situational depression for most of us. I had PND after DS1 and got some counselling through the NHS. I said I thought I would be better when I was back at work and it helped immensely, being me, not just mummy and feeling appreciated. A lot of lockdown has felt like maternity leave to me - relentless, with no proper conversations.

Flowers to everyone - I am sure you are all doing your best in the circumstances.

justasking111 · 20/02/2021 18:53

@MercyBooth

inews.co.uk/news/politics/governments-review-emergency-powers-parliament-citizens-liberties-880465?ito=social_ifb_theipaper&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwAR3_2SHN7uag69zabuIfRbwVCnPDCaK9JknmU_SMOMqdhbQHblCgDwpp1KE#Echobox=1613820001

Government’s review of emergency powers may lead to MPs losing say over restrictions on citizen’s liberty
EXCLUSIVECritics fear the review of the Civil Contingencies Act may lead to ministers seeking to bypass Parliamentary scrutiny of emergency laws

Drakeford in Wales has been doing this since the start. Angry
BogRollBOGOF · 20/02/2021 19:03

I've certainly had week long blocks (and not always triggered by a tightening of restrictions, but there is a correlation there) where I have seriously ticked boxes for depression. But it is just that my brain's been starved of normal quantities of feel good hormones/ chemicals. I'm not generally off balance. My default mood and morivation are lower than normal, and the feel-good moments aren't as sustaining.

From how I felt in September/ October, I suspect that when we get more normality back into the spring, it's emotionally going to feel quite fragile. The two races I had, I didn't get my normal excitement about because I just couldn't trust that they were going to happen until the night before. Then the atmosphere on the day was dampened. It's been so long now, I think many will take a while to reset to their normal balance (and that's not even the people who've been ultra-cautious about it)

Gratefulrunner · 20/02/2021 19:20

@BogRollBOGOF you are a runner too I think? I am usually very enthusiastic about running and running but I think lockdown is fatiguing me and no races or park runs for motivation, really struggling to get myself out for runs

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