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Sleep well.

more hysteria debunking.

[https://uk.yahoo.com/news/beach-super-spreader-myth-inform-070000945.html]

'reality was never quite as apocalyptic as the telephoto lens pictures which appeared to show a sea of humanity all but on top of each other – in fact, for the most part, just a trick of perspective.

Instead, some suggest, Woolhouse’s intervention is a reminder that the narrative propagated in parts of the media about the daytrippers had some of the qualities of a moral panic'

link that works

www.theguardian.com/world/2021/feb/19/how-the-beach-super-spreader-myth-can-inform-uks-future-covid-response

Police stopping walks on the beaches here, rolling road blocks. The irony. Drakeford to announce little ones can go back to schools. No shit schools told parents that last week. He's not budging on lockdown, three more weeks of police checkpoints I despair

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www.theguardian.com/world/2021/feb/19/how-the-beach-super-spreader-myth-can-inform-uks-future-covid-response[/quote]
Oh look, we're on the right side of history

If the government are going to piss about with a sluggish reopening of society, you're going to get a repeat of crowded beauty spots as soon as the weather is half decent again, and while that isn't a virus issue, it is a toileting issue, a parking issue and a littering issue.

Globally, regardless of strategy, virus rates plummet in the spring. Plus we have the vaccine now begining to protect CEV and even active age groups like 50+. By the time we get to the start of Easter, we simply aren't going to be in a position to repeat a mid-winter pressure on the NHS. Surviving businesses are also "good to go" with mitigation measures in place. They don't need to wait for months to source screens/ gel/ plan layouts, and we know what effect different sectors have. It's the great experiment of 2020. It's not unprecidented any more.

On that note was there any evidence to justify depriving the public of access to toilets, like that isn't a health hazard? I am worried that my mid-run/ start-finish toilet block may never reopen after this.

I really don't understand policing people outside on walks. I just dong see the logic at all.

Hope you and your daughter are ok now TabbyStar. Glad the Welsh schools are going back soon but sorry about all of the checkpoints. This is insane!

[quote DWPmisery1972]@Curlygirl06 you gotta do the hug n roll Ross style [/quote]
He finally dropped off at about 10.30. He's very excited as he's got me all to himself as his baby sister will be at home with mummy tomorrow, instead of me having both. Bless him, he likes coming here as he's spoilt, and quite right too!

@TrustTheGeneGenie

I really don't understand policing people outside on walks. I just dong see the logic at all.

Get healthy, exercise more but don't you dare go outside!

@BogRollBOGOF, I am far more worried about diseases spread by the lack of sanitation and toilet facilities than Covid. And from a feminist perspective and as a woman who has been pregnant and given birth three times, I worry about the reintroduction of the urinary leash which will re-restrict women to the private sphere again.

One of our local hospital trusts did their covid update yesterday and there are 70 odd people in hospital with covid who came in with covid and 80 odd who received their first positive test whilst in hospital, now being treated for covid.
So let me get this straight, there are now more people in hospital with covid here who caught it in hospital than there are people who caught it out of hospital.

So can someone please explain to me how taking my son for a walk on the beach and buying him an ice cream is responsible for filling the local hospital???!!!

Yet when these updates are shared on Facebook no one seems to have noticed this at all, it's full of gushing "you're so wonderful xx you should go into politics, if everyone only stuck to the rules......"
I mean ffs.

I just feel irrationally cross that we are locked away as cases in hospital are too high when it's the hospital that's making people sick. But they will never have to account for this as the blind deification of the NHS this last year means it is now beyond criticism.

@TrustTheGeneGenie

I really don't understand policing people outside on walks. I just dong see the logic at all.

No I can’t either.

Glad to hear that you are starting to feel better DWP. Sleep well Tabby.

@TabbyStar

Just got back from A&E. DD again with problem she had last year, she's okay. We stopped off at the all night M&S on the way home for treats and I've just eaten breakfast then going back to bed (she woke me at 2am). It's just like the old days getting back from clubbing then sleeping the morning!

@tabbyStar wishing you and your DD all the best. Hope she is on the mend!

I’ve had an email to say that I am CEV. I am extremely irritated by this. Right now there’s nothing open and the only people I see are those in my nuclear family. It hasn’t meant that I can book a vaccine so I’m not exactly sure what the point was.

Ooh that's rubbish CruCru I wonder why it has taken them so long to identify you as CEV (I am not asking for your medical history, I know it is none of my business) and as you say nowhere is open anyway. I don't understand why it hasn't moved you to the front of the vaccine queue. LivinLaVidaLoki I agree with you about the craziness of the covid infections.

Thanks for the good wishes, we are both tired, she has an infection that's linked to the last one, but not life threatening (as it was getting last time). DD or DM has needed to use emergency services six times between them in the pandemic, with various other services in-between, and other than the issue of visitors (in some ways this reduces pressure on me but in other cases means that the right questions aren't asked and we have to go back again) care and speed of service has been very good. I do wish a month could go by without some sort of crisis though, it's exhausting and I'm now going to have to work over the weekend to catch up.

A friend of mine found out they were CEV about two months ago. No notice of anything during lockdown 1. I think it puts him in group 4 for the vaccine, so not exactly happening soon. He's decided to carry on as normal, including his DC in nursery. He figured if he was ok so far, he was probably ok for the next couple of months.

Listening to R2 and the lunchtime show is doing a discussion about who is now being included as CEV and this includes women who had gestational diabetes anything up to 15 years ago. The reason is that GD makes you at risk of getting diabetes even when pregnancy is over. And its only just coming out now because they needed to check the data properly before sending out the letters. On the plus side yay women are getting checked up on but I do wonder why women who have GD don't seem to have been told it puts them at risk for the rest of their lives?

I’m one of those women. I have a diabetes test every year but thankfully don’t (yet) have diabetes. I’ll carry on as usual, am praying that primary schools go back on 8 March.

That does sound very hard Tabby. I hope you have a relaxing few days.

Hmm nothing here via post or email about shielding for DH (t1 diabetic). He is otherwise v healthy though.

My practice has started on the 16-64 CEV this week.

TrusttheGene
There is no logic unless we all actually want an even less healthy population. It's a heap of shit and totally infuriates me!
Loki
The whole hospital thing just raises my blood pressure to popping point! A while back I said on one of the 'we've got to lock down more and harder especially children' threads that we should close all hospitals and care homes in order to bring down transmission rates. I never went back to see how that went down but saying it gave me a rare laugh to myself

Just been over there again and someone made the statement that "icus will be full of unvaccinated teachers and parents soon"
How the fuck have they worked that one out? You are at no more risk now than you have been previously.....

I don't get it.

@LivinLaVidaLoki where do you find the info on the hospital numbers?

What does CEV stand for? My guess is Critical, Elderly, Vulnerable?

@LivinLaVidaLoki

www.independent.co.uk/news/health/covid-cleaners-sick-pay-trust-london-b1803407.html

Cleaners and porters infected with Covid at London NHS trust denied full sick pay during winter wave
Exclusive: Supply staff at West Herts Trust reportedly pressured to carry on working even when feared to be infected with Covid-19