I'm totally fucked and had enough of home schooling now....

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And it's appears half the people on my FB feed are feeling the same. I don't even have young kids but the fact I have to force my teens out of bed, remind them to brush their teeth and get dressed is a battle itself. I have one child who refuses to go out and another who refuses to stay in. I'm so done with this shit. How our kids will ever catch up at school and the unseen damage this is doing to their mental health is just unimaginable. Sorry just a rant but I have given up nagging them as it's not helping any of us 😔

I think we are at tipping point but theres comfort in knowing we all feel the same so must be normal. With no definite end in sight it's tough. Their education and mental health is now suffering. Somethings got to change home learning isnt working its an uneven playing field with too many expectations. Roll on half term!

[quote Seriouslymole]@noblegiraffe - I wondered how long it would be before you arrived like the cavalry. Eventually schools will have to open, and eventually teachers will either have to decide that it is not the environment they want to work in, or, as so many are doing, realise that schools and most other walks of life, will never be and have never been completely safe and just get on with it.

Once the necessary people have been vaccinated, as they are being (and yes I am volunteering in a vaccination centre) done in huge numbers then schools must return.

I hate the feeling that I get from you and indeed from my DD's school, that children are such an inconvenience for schools.[/quote]
I’m not sure which part of her comment you are objecting to - everything she said was accurate so I’m not sure why you’re taking it this way?

My twins urgently need to be in school - they went for a day yesterday and were like different children last night. But if staff or pupils keep testing positive and they have to isolate (as has happened twice this term just in their class and there are only 7 pupils including them) what can be done? If schools were open fully, this would be happening even more frequently. Being at home knowing there’s a good chance you’re about to get sick and not being able to go to the park etc is even more stressful than being at home because schools are closed.

I see how much my boys are suffering and I see how much others are suffering and it’s awful. Last week in particular I felt completely hopeless. But it’s not a case of schools are open or they are closed - if they open when case numbers are still high, kids will be having to isolate left and right.

I thought after the first lockdown shit show this wouldn’t happen again. Unless I’m going mad most of MN were calling for schools to shut, now they are we’re calling for them to open ffs.
They should never have closed the schools imo

@OnlyFoolsnMothers

I thought after the first lockdown shit show this wouldn’t happen again. Unless I’m going mad most of MN were calling for schools to shut, now they are we’re calling for them to open ffs. They should never have closed the schools imo

No it was just closing school crowd were louder when they were open. Most haven’t changed views

I feel the same DS is 5 and an only child and is so bored and frustrated. His behaviour had been ok but lots of meltdowns last few days.

I wfh full time and DH is a civil servant and works in the office 4 days a week.

DS just seems to have been left

DS is 5 and we are struggling with home learning. He had additional needs and should be being assessed for an EHCP, but that’s all been pushed back now of course. So he will have no extra support in place for next year, and they were already worried about him coping with the transition. I’m worried sick.

Yesterday the children were encouraged to ‘dress to express their feelings’ and one of his classmates put their uniform on, because they want to be at school.

I don’t know what the answer is, but this is really shit. I had a stressful experience yesterday, it would always have stressed me out but I had an absolute screaming meltdown about it (alone in the car). I wonder if I’d have done that without all this shit going on in the background.

@Seriouslymole, I don't get you at all.

"I hate the feeling that I get from you and indeed from my DD's school, that children are such an inconvenience for schools."

Teachers and school is not at fault at school closing. It's virus. If the school went on like it was, eventually there could have been no teachers to teach children.
Children having difficulty coping in this lock down is nothing to do with individual teacher or school.

I really don't get your sentiment. Teachers/school and parents are allies, not an enemy.

I really, really struggle with the fact that, having battled for years to keep my children off screens all day, I’m now forced to put them on screens by a government who could not do enough to keep the schools open.

There’s a reason we dont want children on their screens in their bedrooms all day, and as a parent of teens (who won’t happily submit to another wet walk outside), I’m livid really that I’ve had no choice in the matter and that I’ve been forced to do something that I consider harmful.

And please don’t anyone say it’s not harmful. Developmental paediatrics is my area of specialism.

I think those talking in very dramatic terms about the impact on children's health and development need to get a bit of perspective. It has been six weeks. If your child is loved, cared for and well fed and has access to books and activities to do at home, they will survive. They will be bored, frustrated and will miss their friends. They can and should access education through the provisions made by the schools. Most schools have good home learning packages. Yes, it is crap but to talk in these extreme terms is ridiculous. We should think about the news reports of ICU's under extreme pressure and get some perspective. There were reasons for closure. The fact that it is shit doesn't change that.

I should say the children I am most concerned about are not the ones whose parents are on here. It is those kids who are stuck in terrible home circumstances. I sincerely hope that schools have enough space to get these children in school where they are safe.
I am desperate for schools to go back but let's remember that they are closed to get control of the pandemic and relieve pressure on hospitals.

Don’t be so fucking sanctimonious. We’ve had enough of that attitude, thanks.

i am sick of sodding nosy teachers.My daughter sits at her desk for zoom meetings same background every day.One day she decides she wants to get her blanket wile she sits at the desk so she must be in bed and that's not allowed .Or shes wearing a sleeveless top therefore she must be wearing a vest and not dressed properly 0.o

I am forced to have my children on screens all day...please don't anyone tell me its not harmful. Developmental paediatrics is my area of specialism.....of course it is.

@AliceBlueGown

I am forced to have my children on screens all day...please don't anyone tell me its not harmful. Developmental paediatrics is my area of specialism.....of course it is.

Why can’t it be?

Well if my Peadiatric developmental specialist was spending his/her time on the internet calling people 'fucking sanctimonious' I think I would be asking to see a different practitioner.

@AliceBlueGown

Well if my Peadiatric developmental specialist was spending his/her time on the internet calling people 'fucking sanctimonious' I think I would be asking to see a different practitioner.

How would you know?

It’s up to you but I’m sure all professions have typed similarly on here. You’d not have many left.

The you must not mention teens having a hard time lot get very wearing

I work on weekdays and still trying to homeschool my kids. I keep getting emails off teachers because all work isn't compete. I'm struggling to balance it

@rosydreams

i am sick of sodding nosy teachers.My daughter sits at her desk for zoom meetings same background every day.One day she decides she wants to get her blanket wile she sits at the desk so she must be in bed and that's not allowed .Or shes wearing a sleeveless top therefore she must be wearing a vest and not dressed properly 0.o

You think teachers are being nosey - I think they are being safeguarding aware.

@MarshaBradyo - the thread is very wearing and I do have two teenagers and a 6 year old. Sorry, but if my sons Developmental Specialist spent time on MN calling strangers 'fucking sanctimonious' I would think it very odd.

Alice I think we can all snap, esp if we care about what’s happening to dc, and tbh I thought the same re pp.

rosydreams

i am sick of sodding nosy teachers.My daughter sits at her desk for zoom meetings same background every day.One day she decides she wants to get her blanket wile she sits at the desk so she must be in bed and that's not allowed .Or shes wearing a sleeveless top therefore she must be wearing a vest and not dressed properly 0.o

You think teachers are being nosey - I think they are being safeguarding aware.

As someone who used to work in childcare i totally understand .But my daughter is clean ,tidy,at a desk ,on time ,never wears pjs .Instead of looking for everything tiny thing that's wrong you should be considering everything that's right as well.You judge as a whole not from one small thing

I don’t know how anyone can homeschool and do a full time job simultaneously. I feel sick and so sad when I think of all the parents on the verge of a breakdown with stress and the kids affected too. It’s just truly hideous and it can’t go on. If I didn’t have kids I would have found it hard to understand what’s so hard about it.Before the fist lockdown I did have this idyllic vision of us all at the table together, learning and working. Hah.
Fortunately it seems like the government s aware that parents and kids are at breaking point and this can’t go on indefinitely. I’m just hoping that March 8 remains the date of return for all kids and teens in England and it doesn’t get pushed forward again. I’ll have a newborn by then and I’m prioritising her and my kids’ well being over any school work regardless of what happens.

@cansu

I think those talking in very dramatic terms about the impact on children's health and development need to get a bit of perspective. It has been six weeks. If your child is loved, cared for and well fed and has access to books and activities to do at home, they will survive. They will be bored, frustrated and will miss their friends. They can and should access education through the provisions made by the schools. Most schools have good home learning packages. Yes, it is crap but to talk in these extreme terms is ridiculous. We should think about the news reports of ICU's under extreme pressure and get some perspective. There were reasons for closure. The fact that it is shit doesn't change that.

It hasn't just been six weeks though. Most children lost a whole term last year and then had a very hit and miss autumn term too. With the best will in the world to keep the stress out, any household that is trying to homeschool children and work full time - or even part time - is going to be under extreme pressure.

cansu
6 weeks?
Schools closed end of March last year. Many children didn't return until September, and then they spent several periods in the autumn term in isolation. Many have lost close to a whole year.

I’m just hoping that March 8 remains the date of return for all kids and teens in England and it doesn’t get pushed forward again.

But that's not what they have said. It's not the "date of return for all kids and teens," it's the earliest date at which they may start to start opening up schools (as in, some year groups, not necessarily all).

You may need to adjust your expectations, to avoid a disappointment.