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Vaccine refusal

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CambsAlways · 29/01/2021 18:18

Do you know anyone who is refusing to have the vaccine, for whatever reason

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CoffeeRunner · 29/01/2021 22:07

I work in a GP surgery & everyone is very keen to have it although some don’t want Pfizer & some now don’t want AZ.

Unfortunately if you chose to be choosey you will probably wait longer.

Tarquinthecat · 29/01/2021 22:09

Yes.

Me.
My boyfriend.
Both my boyfriend's parents (in their 90s).
Two other very close friends.
Three of my FB friends (that I know of)

AnnabelleMarx · 29/01/2021 22:11

Most of the people I know are other ICU drs and nurses.

Everybody can’t wait.

I’d be astonished and concerned to meet a degree-qualified healthcare worker who was ‘anti-vaccination’.

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axile234 · 29/01/2021 22:29

Once it's in you there's no going back. There's no promises of no long term side effects . And just how many times as Obo Johnson said sorry
for getting things wrong . And you still have to do everything your doing now.

Somanysocks · 29/01/2021 22:40

Yes I know a carer of the vulnerable who refuses to have it, she's an idiot though, a conspiracy theorist.

CuteBear · 29/01/2021 22:42

I’m concerned about the side effects. Sometimes effects don’t appear until months later. There hasn’t been another MRNA type vaccine and this has been released quickly. I’ve had allergic reactions to some vaccines and medicines. I’m not at risk of getting really ill from covid19 so I don’t think I’ll get the vaccine. It’s a good option for those who are in the vulnerable category.

traveller11 · 29/01/2021 22:44

@Ch3rish

Now that millions of people have had all the curent vaccines what study results are you waiting for? Side effects or efficacy or something else?

It's the long term effects on fertility which worries me.
Partner and I are looking to start properly TTC next year, and I won't have anything jeopardise that when I'm young and in good health already so likely to have Covid mildly if at all.

He has also said he won't get the vaccine but he also has a distrust of politics vs. science and how much influence our gov has had in this vaccine.

Hotpinkangel19 · 29/01/2021 22:59

Why does everyone who isn't jumping to have the vaccine get called an anti vaxxer? I'm definitely not an anti vaccine person, but I am wary about this vaccine. I'm not definitely against it, but I'm really not sure.

lookingoutadirtyoldwindow · 30/01/2021 18:02

@TwoLeftSocksWithHoles

I know if I still had my cat, he would refuse it. Getting him to swallow a pill was like trying to put toothpaste back into the tube.
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Riv12345 · 30/01/2021 18:04

My daughter wnt have it

LittleBearPad · 30/01/2021 18:11

No, anyone I’ve spoken will be running in pulling their sleeves up.

But I see there’s a good supply of tin foil hat wearers here.

doritodiva · 30/01/2021 18:21

My mom was going to say no but heard that she may not be able to travel abroad if she doesn't. So she's going to

WalrusWife · 30/01/2021 19:09

I’m pregnant and then I’ll be breastfeeding so I won’t be having it for now. I’m not in a priority group.

mouldyhouse101 · 30/01/2021 20:16

Yes, quite a few

And none of those are judgemental of those who chose to have the vaccine. Shame it can't be said for the others..

Sceptre86 · 30/01/2021 20:32

A colleague at work, early 20 has a benign brain tumour and adrenal insufficiency but is akin to believing conspiracy theories and has decided not to have it even though we can have it as a priority due to our work. It is absolutely her choice and she may change her mind at a later date. I haven't had it either even though I too can get it through work, I am pregnant and do not have sufficient risk factors where the benefit would outweigh unknown risks (according to my midwife). I will hopefully get it as soon as baby is born.

LittleBearPad · 31/01/2021 00:21

@mouldyhouse101

Yes, quite a few

And none of those are judgemental of those who chose to have the vaccine. Shame it can't be said for the others..

Well one group’s decision increases risk for society, the other doesn’t. They aren’t morally equivalent
MarieVanGoethem · 31/01/2021 05:58

@GaraMedouar & @AnnaMagnani
The guidance about the Pfizer vaccination changed on 30/12/20: it’s only if you’re allergic to the ingredients that you’re not to have it. I had it on 08/01/21 (had my EpiPens literally to hand rather than just in my bag, as usual). Really really worrying that outdated advice was not only being broadcast, it was said by someone widely seen as a trusted figure. And clearly it’s not going to help with the getting across the message that you can safely have the vaccine even if your body has form for deciding a new thing definitely means anaphylaxis is the only reasonable response. Hmm

@73kittycat73
I felt grotty for a few days after my vaccine, but that was from a pretty rubbish baseline; & it wrecked my arm, but that was because I’ve a bleeding disorder that means I shouldn’t have IM injections & the covid ones can’t be given any other way. Vastly VASTLY preferable to covid though. Lots of the HCPs I see regularly have had one or two doses & had nothing worse than a sore arm - one of the IV Team actually took part in the Oxford trial & only found out she’d had the real thing not the placebo when she got in touch to ask them as the vaccination programme was being rolled out at the Trust. My stepmother has had her first jab now too (she had the Oxford one) & was totally fine. If your arm is a bit sore afterwards, ice is the best thing for it. But I’m sure you’ll be grand. They’re well into the swing of things now, with marshalling people & things - all v efficient.

@Wyntersdiary
What your uncle has told you is inaccurate. There have been a few cases - globally - of people catching covid after being vaccinated, which is to be expected as none of the vaccines offer total coverage. However, crucially, even in extremely vulnerable patients, being vaccinated reduced the illness to one that did not require hospital treatment; & none of this patient population have died [from COVID, anyway], either. That’s a very very different thing from “actually no evidence that it protacts anyone against anything it just reduces symptoms potentially like the cough or temp”. I’m very curious as to what information it is he’s requested from whom (& when this was) that was not shared with him - & what reason, if any, was given for the refusal. Ever since the beginning of the process there has been a wealth of information freely available online, so I’m fascinated by what [he alleges] is being withheld. Is your uncle in the UK? As far as I’m aware the only severe (& they were anaphlactoid rather than anaphylactic) reactions to covid vaccines there have been here were those of the 2 HCPs in December which led to a temporary suspension of use of the Pfizer vaccine on the patient population who have a history of anaphylaxis. You are of course free to believe in the press having been silenced & the MHRA covering it all up, but...

@traveller11
What influence is it your boyfriend thinks the government has had in the vaccine? All of them, or one particularly? I think Rishi Sunak sliming his way across London to Vicky Foxcroft’s constituency to bother people who were being vaccinated was a loathsome bit of political nonsense around vaccines; & there are plenty of issues with how the government has [mis]handled the science of things - but I’m confused as to how you could set yourself up as following the science rather than swayed by politics, only to say you’ll not have the vaccine.

SycamoreGap · 31/01/2021 07:31

@AnnaMagnani

If you want to 'choose Oxford' just because you prefer it's quite easy - you just book to have it done at a pharmacy when you get your letter.

They don't have the storage facilities for Pfizer so are only doing Oxford.

If you have a clinical reason you can say so when you get your phone call as my DM found out and they will ring you specially from your local hub when they have Oxford in.

This is partially true - pharmacy sites are only giving AZ at this time and the government have said they only intend to distribute AZ to them, but pharmacy sites can give Pfizer (and have the facilities to do so) if the government changes its plans - I can’t see this happening any time soon.

I’ve spent time in a few vaccine sites over the past weeks - there is is such a positive atmosphere - it’s been great to see.

All 15 staff in our pharmacy have had their first dose - no side-effects other than a few sore arms.

AnnaMagnani · 31/01/2021 10:34

@MarieVanGoethem Nobody told my mother that! Even last week she was told by the vaccine hub she had to have Oxford.

Anyway she's had it now. And is delighted.

southeastdweller · 31/01/2021 10:42

Me, some colleagues and some friends. I've been offered it already and refused. If I get Covid I'll probably be fine, think I've had it anyway so don't see the point of the vaccine, tbh.

I'll see what happens later this year or next when there may some evidence of long term side effects.

MorrisZapp · 31/01/2021 10:52

@GaraMedouar

I haven’t been offered it yet as I’m down in group 9 but I feel wary due to allergies (penicillin and some food - anaphylaxis level). I saw a clip of Dr Xand on tv a couple of days ago and he said people with allergies should avoid Pfizer but AZ is fine. I probably will have it but still feel a bit scared.
Can anaphylaxis be mitigated at all? Ie if you had the vaccine under medical monitoring and with treatment on standby?
AnnaMagnani · 31/01/2021 12:25

@GaraMedouar I can report back from my DM who has just phoned me - she has anaphylaxis to penicillin and bee stings.

Fine on day of jab, felt like shit all night with terrible aches and pains but now back to normal. Bearing in mind she is a very frail lady who is nearly 80.

She didn't have any special monitoring at the hub as none needed for AZ.

Yohoheaveho · 31/01/2021 12:29

I'm glad lots of people are rushing to get it so that I can hang back and wait and see what happens to them

MarieVanGoethem · 31/01/2021 12:51

@AnnaMagnani
If you or mother have the time it would be worth contacting the hub (or the CCG responsible for it) to complain. Obviously it’s great she’s had the Oxford vaccine & she’s right to be happy about that - but it’s awful they’re giving people incorrect information. The rules have been changed to ingredient-allergy-only for longer than they were any-history-of-anaphylaxis; & if HCPs keep sharing incorrect information it leads to it being spread more widely by people who’re just trying to be helpful.

@MorrisZapp & @GaraMedouar
If you’re someone who normally has the flu jab (&/or other vaccinations) at the hospital they can still arrange for that to happen; if you’re just an additional observation person most places are, I think, arranging for you to be watched slightly more closely afterwards. Obviously following whatever your usual treatment plan is (eg a prophylactic dose of antihistamine &/or oral steroid before your jab) is really important too (& making sure staff are aware you’ve done so) & having your EpiPens immediately accessible. The Pfizer jab they keep everyone, even those in boundingly good health, for 15 minutes after the jab in case they have a reaction, not sure about the Oxford one, but if you’re prone to reactions they’ll keep you for a bit.

Michaelschofield · 31/01/2021 13:27

No none of my family will have it and I will never consent to my children having it either