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Alice Evans Ioan Gruffudd

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drpimplepooper · 26/01/2021 17:33

Is anyone following the story? Sorry for DF link. Sad for all involved Sad

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youvegottenminuteslynn · 08/11/2021 11:18

Even if he fell out of love with AE he should have sucked it up and stayed married till the girls were grown.

You don't see how damaging it is for children to grow up in a home where their parents don't have a happy, healthy relationship?

It models an unhealthy relationship dynamic to them which they are then likely to replicate as adults.

You expect someone to stay married for 10+ years 'for the children'? It's NOT in the best interests of the children to do that. It causes them to have low expectations of relationships and think that it's normal and acceptable for couples to not really like each other, not have a laugh, not be affectionate etc. It's so damaging.

BarefootHippieChick · 08/11/2021 13:49

He chose to have children. Even if he fell out of love with AE he should have sucked it up and stayed married till the girls were grown. Then moved on.

What a ridiculous statement. I have friends who have stayed in marriages far longer than they should. The kids are now much more damaged for living in a household where the parents clearly have no love and respect for each other than if they had split earlier on and stayed amicable. Such a 1950s attitude.

LadyEv · 08/11/2021 14:25

"He chose to have children. Even if he fell out of love with AE he should have sucked it up and stayed married till the girls were grown. Then moved on."

Please tell me you are joking @KosherDill nobody should have to stay in a loveless marriage. It's not fair on either party or the children.

And If it's true that Ioan had been deleting Alice's tweets and had also locked her out of her own Twitter account for several months, He actually sounds quite controling. And then refusing to speak to her and blocking her on social media, It all seems so calculated. Like he knows just what buttons to press to make her look 'unhinged' while Ioan maintains a 'dignified silence'. It must have been a shock for poor Alice to find out he didn't love her anymore, but if anything he's done her a favour in the long run. I hope she moves on and realises she's better off without him.

KosherDill · 10/11/2021 00:15

@LadyEv

"He chose to have children. Even if he fell out of love with AE he should have sucked it up and stayed married till the girls were grown. Then moved on."

Please tell me you are joking @KosherDill nobody should have to stay in a loveless marriage. It's not fair on either party or the children.

And If it's true that Ioan had been deleting Alice's tweets and had also locked her out of her own Twitter account for several months, He actually sounds quite controling. And then refusing to speak to her and blocking her on social media, It all seems so calculated. Like he knows just what buttons to press to make her look 'unhinged' while Ioan maintains a 'dignified silence'. It must have been a shock for poor Alice to find out he didn't love her anymore, but if anything he's done her a favour in the long run. I hope she moves on and realises she's better off without him.

I'm not joking. Staying six or seven more years and being civil would not have killed him. Marriages don't have to be sunshine and rainbows to work as child-rearing partnerships modeling mature compromise and civility.
MyDogLovesBiscuits · 10/11/2021 07:21

It's far more damaging to children to come from a household with an unhappily married set of parents than it is to have two separated and co-parenting children who model a life of happiness and mutual respect to their ex partners.

youvegottenminuteslynn · 10/11/2021 21:26

Marriages don't have to be sunshine and rainbows to work as child-rearing partnerships modeling mature compromise and civility.

Incredibly unhealthy to model civility as a happy relationship, children don't know to then aim for more as adults. Instead, adjust your thinking to the following:

Parents don't have to stay married or remain in a romantic relationship to work as a child-rearing partnership modelling mature compromise and civility.

youvegottenminuteslynn · 10/11/2021 21:26

@MyDogLovesBiscuits

It's far more damaging to children to come from a household with an unhappily married set of parents than it is to have two separated and co-parenting children who model a life of happiness and mutual respect to their ex partners.
Absolutely this.
KosherDill · 10/11/2021 23:31

@youvegottenminuteslynn

Marriages don't have to be sunshine and rainbows to work as child-rearing partnerships modeling mature compromise and civility.

Incredibly unhealthy to model civility as a happy relationship, children don't know to then aim for more as adults. Instead, adjust your thinking to the following:

Parents don't have to stay married or remain in a romantic relationship to work as a child-rearing partnership modelling mature compromise and civility.

You think their current reality is better than polite civility in an intact and functional two-parent home?

Please.

MyDogLovesBiscuits · 11/11/2021 00:01

Who out of the two parents is being visibly impolite and uncivil to the other though @KosherDill?

She could be making this transition much easier on her girls, regardless of how she's feeling right now because that's what a good parent does in situations like this. What you don't do is publicly denounce the man you still call your husband and profess to have loved as soul mates or whatever and promote parental alienation of the children.

Again I ask why should anyone stay in a marriage that they are unhappy in when both parents and children can be happy and provably better off mentally living lives as separated co-parents.

I agree that ideally a two parent household would be best if they were happily married but this is not the case and it is proven to be harmful to children if parents stay unhappily married - civility or not.

youvegottenminuteslynn · 11/11/2021 00:21

@KosherDill

You think their current reality is better than polite civility in an intact and functional two-parent home?

No, that's the opposite of what I said.

I said it's better for two parents to split and then healthily co-parent than it is to remain married and be 'civil' but unhappy.

I at no point have said, or even implied, that it's better to break up and spew vitriol at the other parent on a public platform. The current reality is appalling.

Which is why it would have been far better to split and work out how to put the children first by being happy healthy parents who are no longer together romantically and don't live under the same roof but healthily co-parent.

The options aren't stay together or have a horrible, nasty split. The other option is to have a civil split that prioritises the children involved.

I'm not sure why you don't consider that as an option. As someone who was the child the parents 'stayed together for' I can tell you all it does is create difficulties in your own relationships once you're an adult as you don't have a healthy model to emulate and also causes both guilt and resentment that two people were unhappy for years 'for the children' if you were that child.

It's more selfish to stay together and be unhappy than it is to be brave and split healthily.

Onthedunes · 12/11/2021 00:48

I think the problem was that he has always taken her for granted.

I don't disagree that she is acting out of anger and despondancy but it is understandable the level of pain she is experiencing.

I've known quite a few couples in the entertaiment industry and within those spheres there have been some extraodinary talented, gifted and creative people.
Most have one half on the relationship that nurtures the other, a supportive role that helps their other halves and stands by them as they watch their star ascending. It takes a great deal of inner strength to watch a partner bathe in success whilst the other partner watches from the wings.

But... in many cases those stars appreciate the support they are given, in the words of Bette Middler "you are the wind beneath my wings".

There is a certain respect and deference given to those who take a back seat, the families are usually thanked.

It doesn't seem to be the case here though, he has provoked her with his absolute disdain by ignoring her and treating her with contempt. The respect as the mother of his children and her public image seems to have been disregarded.

He's not keeping a dignified silence, he's using others to fight his battles to humiliate her and drag her through hell, he's totally ungrateful and probably always has been.

He is a coward and hopefully, now she has burnt her bridges she will see he never deserved her support, good luck to him finding the same support from someone who was willing to rip a family appart.

I've got a feeling he's going to learn the hard way.
All this destroying of her reputation, mental health and winding her up will I fear sadly backfire on him.

Don't shit on the people who helped you get where you are.
An egotistical fool.

QueefofSheena · 18/11/2021 22:14

Interesting blind on BG, sorry if it already been mentioned. Seems to suggest that she had an affair with someone on the Vampire Diaries/Originals while she was in them.

Bluntness100 · 25/11/2021 15:28

Not sure where the other thread has gone, was it full? I see the acting videos from last night have been removed from twitter and insta, I think that’s a positive for Alice that she’s done that.

BarefootHippieChick · 25/11/2021 20:51

bluntness I think the other thread was deleted.

It's good she's taken the videos down though

Bluntness100 · 25/11/2021 21:44

Ah, ok thank you.

ValerieCupcake · 26/11/2021 15:36

*he has provoked her with his absolute disdain by ignoring her and treating her with contempt. The respect as the mother of his children and her public image seems to have been disregarded.

He's not keeping a dignified silence, he's using others to fight his battles to humiliate her and drag her through hell, he's totally ungrateful and probably always has been.

He is a coward and hopefully, now she has burnt her bridges she will see he never deserved her support, good luck to him finding the same support from someone who was willing to rip a family apart*

I think Gruffudd thinks Bianca will be more malleable and allow him to shine where Alice was more in the forefront and he didn't like it

Bluntness100 · 26/11/2021 16:02

I don’t think Alice was more in the forefront, she’s not properly worked for years Confused

Keepitonthedownlow · 12/12/2021 22:11

Alice Evans' comments here are bizarre - you want to get a room? To her husband and daughter? Unless she was worried he was having an affair and the "get a room" thing just popped out? twitter.com/AliceEvansGruff/status/1096662136896405504?s=20

ErinAoife · 13/12/2021 03:23

Video is two years old. She is clearly having a bit of banter with her husband and child, I don't see any bizarre with it.

Keepitonthedownlow · 13/12/2021 10:36

Would you say 'get a room' to your husband and child? Seriously?

ErinAoife · 13/12/2021 11:39

You can clearly see she is joking.You are clearly too PC

Keepitonthedownlow · 13/12/2021 11:56

I notice you didn't answer my question.

ErinAoife · 13/12/2021 12:18

I did. It is clearly a joke she was making. I am not offending by it when she said do you want to get a room to them. It is a joke.

Keepitonthedownlow · 13/12/2021 17:49

It's grim. End of.

JustGotToKeepOnKeepingOn · 13/12/2021 18:51

I've no idea who either of them are 🤷‍♀️