Alice Evans Ioan Gruffudd

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Is anyone following the story? Sorry for DF link. Sad for all involved

Why should women keep quiet while men do as they please? What about the trauma he has caused? Why is she expected to keep quiet when going through such a horrible event where she doesn't know how to deal with it.

Also just read her latest piece in the Daily Mail. I admire her for speaking out - I hate the way society doesn’t like women to show they’re angry or upset. And they’re labelled hysterical if they do. Why should women always stay quiet and be ‘dignified’?
He’s clearly handled this very badly. Why post that Instagram with the ‘you made me smile again’ anyway if not to upset Alice? If it’s supposed to be a message for the new girlfriend, why not tell her privately - why does the whole world need to know? So tasteless - and cruel too.

it's sad really. she is making herself ridiculous or pitiable, not attractive

So? Who does she need to be attractive to? I should think attracting someone new is the last thing on her mind.

Torn about this though. If you don’t love someone anymore then you don’t love them and after all those years and having children together is there anyway to end the relationship that would be amicable and healthy? However I tire of the “Woman Should Be Dignified For The Sake Of Her Kids!” narrative. Seems like that just protects the man from the consequences of his shitty, selfish behaviour mostly. He’s sitting pretty isn’t he? Hugely successful career, filming all over the world in exotic locations and brand new shiny young girlfriend while she stays home picking up all the pieces and doing the Shit Work. In conclusion I don’t judge her for her reaction even if it’s not something I’d do personally.

While I feel really sorry for her I feel worse for their children. It must be affecting them, both at home and outside of it while their mum is losing her mind all over social media and to basically anyone who will listen. By the sounds of it their dad hasn’t seen them much/at all this past year or so either. But at least he has a new, young pretty girlfriend to make him smile again. So that’s nice posted that on his Instagram with no thought as to how it would affect his children. I don’t just mean seeing daddy with a new girlfriend they don’t seem to have met yet but the atmosphere at home when their mum finds out and loses her shit about it.

I read the daily fail article today which is AE’s own words apparently, she actually said “why would the divorce and my behaviour have a terrible affect on the girls 15 years from now?!” Not her exact words but of course it will affect them, how it could not? I speak from experience, my mum went psycho after my dad left (and probably before he left tbh) and it definitely affected me. So did my dad abandoning his children with his unstable ex.

It’s a fucking mess and the children are being let down by both parents right now.

I do feel sorry for her, because heartache is the pits. I don't agree with her showing her 8 year old daughter the picture on Instagram though of him with his new girlfriend, or her letting the 8 year old repeatedly make her dad PROMISE he wouldn't get a new girlfriend.

She just seems to be beyond pain and quite unstable.

@AutumnColours9

Why should women keep quiet while men do as they please? What about the trauma he has caused? Why is she expected to keep quiet when going through such a horrible event where she doesn't know how to deal with it.

Because it's just used as trashy gossip for people to read and her pain becomes our entertainment and little else.

If I were friends or family I wouldn't advise this approach as it brings her nothing but more grief. She does seem, to me, to be having a painful breakdown from which she needs protected not encouraged to vent publicly.

Clearly hurting and venting.
Her soon to be ex thinks it is fine to use insta to declare him smiling again.
For him presumably, ten months is a lifetime ago. For her, the scab has been ripped off and it's a new raw wound again.
Feel for the kids, have been child of divorce with a bitter mum and an unapologetic dad. It sucks.
Have also been victim of the script before and had an ex complain about me making him look like a bastard.
Don't be a dishonest cliche then...own it. Men don't like being called out.
I would be amazed if there had not been an overlap.

I feel for her and understand how she feels as I have been there. You don't how you are going to react when something like that happens to you. My world crashed in front of me when my marriage breaks down, I did not want him to leave, I wanted to fix our marriage but no just been told I don't love you I am attracted to you, I want to be happy. Goodbye. That what's all I got after 25 years together and some nasty comments about my appearance. Very hard to recover from a situation like that

Sorry should read I am not attracted to you

I think she has every right to point out he’s behaved crappily. Why does a woman have to be dignified when her husband treats her abominably

I hope she finds her inner rage and takes him to the cleaners. Hate all this crap about how she is damaging their kids. She is now the full time sole parent while he swans off into the sunset with a women half his age. Fuck that shit! Women being nice,polite and "dignified" does not work in their favour.

She is now the full time sole parent while he swans off into the sunset with a women half his age.

Exactly this. She's entitled to be angry about it. There was a bit in the article about how the children were supposed to go spend time with him in the South of France but now he is saying that this is looking doubtful allegedly because the new girlfriend is there. Shrugging off plans with the DC to accommodate new plans with a new partner is shitty behaviour no matter how you paint it.

Women maintaining a dignified silence is ultimately beneficial to men. It's awful that women cannot win on this one: if we remain silent, horrible men get to retain a façade of decency; if we speak out we look bitter and unhinged and 'prove' that the man was justified in treating us badly.

It’s the usual story, she kept the home life together on her own during lockdown whilst he was having a jolly old time picking up a twenty something year old half a world away.
She has every right to be angry, she doesn’t owe her silence.
He made her think the problem was her instead of having the balls to come and say what he’d been at.
The Instagram post with his new love was cruel and self indulgent.

@KingRoloIV
Your post sums it up perfectly

I agree. When this actually came out, as a big fan of Ioan's work, I was tempted to think Alice might be some kind of toxic partner. Certainly not a fan any more - what a rotten way to behave. He seems to have gaslit her and, as usual, the new model, the younger woman, soon pops out of the woodwork. I feel absolutely sorry for Alice - she is clearly confused and heartbroken, and who wouldn't be?

It is interesting to read the posts from earlier this year, with posters correctly predicting the unveiling of a 'new' relationship with a much younger girlfriend.

I looked at her Insta and she seemed to have totally adored him, and their family.m I think some of her comments were tongue in cheek and her attempt at wit, rather than being weird.

His instagram post with the new girlfriend was really digging in the knife and his comment about smiling again, was him twisting the knife, totally nasty and unnecessary.

Now that his wife has said her piece, I do hope she can move on and start the healing process for her and her kids.

I just see it as her responding to his ridiculous message. As the aboce poster said, it was clearly him sticking the knife in. Why not just tell her in private. I hope his GF wants a family herself so he will soon be pushing 60 and be knee deep in nappies.

This is the most measured thread on this topic I’ve come across.

I agree with everyone. I really really want Alice to pull herself together now and focus on rebuilding her life.

@AutumnColours9

Why should women keep quiet while men do as they please? What about the trauma he has caused? Why is she expected to keep quiet when going through such a horrible event where she doesn't know how to deal with it.

Because she is damaging her children. Her eldest is 12. You can guarantee at least some of her friends are on social media. Maybe she is too. Seeing or hearing about her mother publicly unravelling is damaging to say the least. Alice Evans can rage and rant all she likes to friends, a counsellor, to Ioan himself, but not in front of her children and her children's friends

I agree with @Cheeseandlobster, as much as Alice is hurting and wants to be heard, she should really put her kids first. I also don't think it's correct for her to argue that her kids have always been famous, I for one had never even heard of her and certainly not of her kids before this year and I am sure I am not the only one.

@EatYourFive

I agree with *@Cheeseandlobster*, as much as Alice is hurting and wants to be heard, she should really put her kids first. I also don't think it's correct for her to argue that her kids have always been famous, I for one had never even heard of her and certainly not of her kids before this year and I am sure I am not the only one.

I saw her tweet about her kids being accustomed to fame and thought "what a bizarre thing to say." She herself is barely famous.

Feeling very sorry for her. In principle I agree that she shouldn't have to quietly put up with his unilateral decisions but from a practical standpoint, acting batshit on social media for more than a year isn't going to help the future romance & career prospects of a 50-something woman.

@MrsBerthaRochester

I hope she finds her inner rage and takes him to the cleaners. Hate all this crap about how she is damaging their kids. She is now the full time sole parent while he swans off into the sunset with a women half his age. Fuck that shit! Women being nice,polite and "dignified" does not work in their favour.

In hindsight it was such a mistake to give up her career right in the prime of her youth. Now she's precarious financially and what sort of jobs is she qualified for?

Is he a big enough star to support two households in high-cost areas? Indefinitely?

@AutumnColours9

Why should women keep quiet while men do as they please? What about the trauma he has caused? Why is she expected to keep quiet when going through such a horrible event where she doesn't know how to deal with it.

He chose to have children. Even if he fell out of love with AE he should have sucked it up and stayed married till the girls were grown. Then moved on.