ADs are elite athletes and can run very fast

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Another thread in the saga filled up (so no forwards link)

I think maybe we're endurance athletes, or maybe multievent like a decathlon

Peston's saying this on Twitter "Tier 4 restrictions will be imposed everywhere. Schools closed. No more team games in parks. But outdoor exercise will still be allowed."

Hope they will announce some financial support for those of us left out of it for ten months now, but I doubt it.

They're talking about Tier 5 on the BBC now.

Do you remember when they added Tier 4 and people made jokes about when will it be tier 17? Not feeling so outlandish anymore.

So DS and I can still do Pokewalks?

So DS and I can still do Pokewalks?

Yes, as long as you can hold your breath the whole time you're out there and don't look at anyone else....

My post reported? Honestly, that was SO not meant in any kind of xenophobic way. Unless I'm actually wanting to deport myself. Truly!

Yet it's fine for people to say that people should be arrested for buying chocolate and wine or that mental health isn't real??

If they do decide to lockdown again it can't be as long as last time. People are struggling, kids need educating, businesses need to reopen. Surely in a month they can vaccinate a chunk of people and we can start to reopen again. They might not be able to vaccinate as many as would be ideal but surely the more they do the more it takes the pressure off, thus putting us in a better position than we were.

I need my life back, this land of nothingness is bleak and horrible.

@Jourdain11 I’m sure pretty much all of us knew what you meant by your comment and certainly didn’t take it in a xenophobic way.

Personally I’d almost find it easier if a lockdown until the end of January was announced with the proviso it didn’t go on any longer than that. A definite timescale would be easier to cope with than the constant low level uncertainty. I appreciate this would be crap for all of you with school aged children though.

@Iheartmysmart - I'd be absolutely fine if it were just me and DH at home - honestly wouldn't give a monkey's. It's the kids. I worry about them from about 4am onwards at the moment. I dread having them both at home for schooling. We coped fine with DS (age 11) at home. DD (age 10) light of my life - bloody nightmare to home school. Usually the most bright child you could imagine, smiley, happy, optimistic. She is a weasel with working from home. She needs school. I need her to have school.

She will be going in under keyworker status.

Ok but I'm lost here
The number of people over 70 is maybe 6-8 million, and account for 90% of covid deaths?
So if you've vaccinate 2m a week you need 3 weeks.... plus a million or so done already.
Well maybe I'd agree with a 3 week lockdown at this point but don't trust the government not to keep us in unnecessarily like they did in the summer. I'd like to make my own risk assessment.
3 weeks should do it, but the NHS can't hang on another 3 weeks....

I find the "a few weeks, a few more weeks" worse than a specific date. November was slightly more tolerable for that, plus there was still the routine of getting the DCs to school.

School have sent a questionnaire to find out about critical workers and demand for places. I've hammed up DH's role (with honesty) including his professional body roles. TBH it is relevant. When he's hosting a conference for 100+ people, the sound of DS2 squealing from being lamped by DS1 then DS1 raging about it is not the most professional background noise...

Truss them in together and depriving them of sport and school then adding in restricted daylight, uninspiring weather and an abundance of mud and it doesn't really bring out the best in their behaviour...

I honestly hope it will be tier 4 with other restrictions but primary school stays open. He sat on bloody television yesterday telling everyone it is safe. Even he surely cannot fail to see what a twat he will look to u turn this soon after.

I am stating away from sm at the moment, I can't cope with everyone screaming for lockdown. I can't deal with it.

Just had detailed guidance from our secondary school on dates to start back, consent for testing etc, so hoping that goes ahead as planned (exam years). as they seem to have thoroughly planned it all out (sigh)

No, in any of our kids. @BogRollBOGOF
Mine are 3 and 5 and what worries me is that they are beginning to think this is just how life is now. They no longer ask to go to soft play or to our local Italian cafe for lunch on weekends as we used to.
In November we found one of the small local play cafes was actually open. I was so happy to take them: dd1 is a bit old for it but everyone was mask free, it was inside and not too busy and it was a beautiful taste of normality.
I am so very tired of all this. Had warmed up kids to go to school on Wednesday; guessing it's not likely to happen.

If they do decide to go with a full lockdown again, which is looking increasingly likely, then I think the papers should publish the number of vaccinations carried out that day as well as the number of positive cases and deaths. That way we can see how much progress is being made.

My social media was pleasantly ok. Local Mums fb group - post asking what people were going about pre-schoolers going back to nursery. Every response talked about how impressed they had been with the relevant nurseries procedures/cleaning/communication, and that they were sending them in for the children's benefit. Hopefully the OP will be reassured by that.

@Iheartmysmart

If they do decide to go with a full lockdown again, which is looking increasingly likely, then I think the papers should publish the number of vaccinations carried out that day as well as the number of positive cases and deaths. That way we can see how much progress is being made.

THIS!!! DH has said that maybe the briefing tonight will be the expanse of tier 4 and staggered returns to all High schools etc but mostly him basking in the glory of the first oxford vaccine and reiterating what he said on Marr regarding primary schools, as everyone complained that he didn't make an announcement regarding the govt position, just went onto Marr so maybe this is it. I think dh may be wrong but I so want him to be right. Also yesterday on Marr he stated that whilst further restrictions wouldn't be ruled out, keeping in lockdown or going in and out of it has its own problems and shouldn't always be considered. So how can he backtrack on that in less than 48 hours?

Also didn't most MPs say they wouldn't support it again after last November?

I need to stay away from people for my own sanity today. A woman has just shouted some very unpleasant things at me from 20 feet away across the road because I wasn't wearing a mask. Outside.

I'm trying to not take it on and be mindful that it's her fear that's talking, not her. But still. I'm getting sick of being on the receiving end of rage and nastiness from my own neighbours.

@NastyBlouse

I need to stay away from people for my own sanity today. A woman has just shouted some very unpleasant things at me from 20 feet away across the road because I wasn't wearing a mask. Outside.

I'm trying to not take it on and be mindful that it's her fear that's talking, not her. But still. I'm getting sick of being on the receiving end of rage and nastiness from my own neighbours.

That's shit, and horrible. Sorry. I've been doing a lot of deliberately minimising language in my head to help me. "Silly herbert" is the fave at the moment. Makes them seem quite childlike in my head and diffuses the anger.

Will BBC1 bump to BBC2 whilst BoJo is on? Or just delay the BBC1 timetable?

IT'S ONLY CONNECT NIGHT.

Don't blame you one bit.

Johnson to announce new lockdown
PM hints secondary schools could shut for months

Heading now in the Times
Great- after school gone to such trouble

Its utterly shambolic. Parents are going to find out at 8PM tonight that they have no childcare for tomorrow, cause that is essentially what primary school is for working parents. People have to go to work tomorrow.

And what's changed from yesterday, how can he be so contradictory.

Unions, I suspect.

8pm is after dd's bedtime. She's going to to go bed tonight expecting her first day back at school tomorrow (inset today). These mind games are cruel. What the fuck is he playing it, leaving it so late?

I think I could just about cope with the children at home until the end of January. If schools were closed any longer I think the government would have to suspend the curriculum like they did in the summer term. There are a million reasons why remote learning will not be adequate (or even accessible) for too many children, no matter how hard schools and teachers try.