ADs are elite athletes and can run very fast

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Another thread in the saga filled up (so no forwards link)

I think maybe we're endurance athletes, or maybe multievent like a decathlon

The only reason I'm getting up and dressed (into sweats and an old maternity hoody, all that now fits) is I have kids to look after. If I had a work from home on a laptop job I reckon I would be doing it in bed with the camera off!

@rosettesforjill
My dear friend was born in my home town but was moved to Ceylon as it was known then when she was 3

She had the most amazing stories of her wonderful life there and was gutted she had to return back to grey, dirty old Blighty when ww2 broke out.

She told me that it was so hot she showered at least once a day more likely twice.
I don’t think we even had showers then

She used to tell us about the fruit trees out the back and the wonderful clothes she had made there.
Yes, she was a lot older than me but was such a brilliant story teller I could literally see the elephants walking down the streets.

Dowser did you get away in the end?

I'm a bit confused

The law says you can travel for education purposes, so does that mean you could mix households to share home ed if it helped?

I have been wondering how Domina is.

I have some work that needs doing in my flat - non urgent. My sister says these are still allowed but I don't want to get a fine. It's actually an ideal time to do stuff while nothing else is allowed and I have to work from home but if I get a fine, I'm stuffed.

We do have an exception to meet up for educational purposes. Risk assessments must be in place etc....That makes sense as we have a high proportion of children with SEN and undiagnosed ASD. We won't generally have ehcps in place and many school children with these are able to go to school to maintain routine etc...It provides a more level standing.
A good proportion struggle with online socialising. It's too wierd. We tried it a few different ways and children left in tears.

However, we're all too aware of public perception and lack of awareness of the law and wider contexts in general, so the reality is that we just daren't.

@Weedsnseeds1

I might go and watch the starling murmerations at the weekend, there are some huge ones locally and a starling hotline that will tell you where they were roosting the previous day (assuming that's still up and running).

@Weedsnseeds1 we went to watch them nearby a couple of months ago but I heard that they get better in January apparently. The starling hotline locally is basically saying to stay away unless you are local I think but we went on a weekday night and it wasn't too busy. We live quite rurally, so anywhere local is about a 20-30 minute drive especially for a proper supermarket!

I'm feeling quite miserable at the minute so my husband thinks I'm depressed because there are days when I just want to stay in bed and I lack the motivation to do stuff. Some days there are tears, like on Monday when I heard the schools were closing again. He thinks all of our marriage problems are caused by me being depressed and wants me to take anti depressants.

Pleased to see our Poundland isn’t closing..44 are closing this weekend.
It’s been a nice little hive of activity since this covid crisis began .
I go for my muesli nuts, seeds and dried fruit.
It also helps to encourage footfall to our covered in Shopping centre.

We have boots, b and m, home bargains, Iceland, savers, Poundland, holland and Barrett and wilkinsons...oh and WH Smith’s /post office so all in all not a bad little day out
In the dry, not very warm as I’m sure the heating is turned off..but warmer than outside anyway.

We go about once a week or so. I want to ensure the businesses stay open in case this goes on longer .
Last time I was there, just after new year I realised I needed birthday cards for dil and grandson.
As the card shops were closed, I went into smiths and picked up two very ordinary ones from a meagre collection and took them to the till.

£8-50!!!

I gasped in shock. The assistant said , do you still want them, I nearly said yes, but my mouth, which has a life of its own thankfully said no.

I got two lovely cards from home bargains for about 60p each.

@Tmpnamechange

We do have an exception to meet up for educational purposes. Risk assessments must be in place etc....That makes sense as we have a high proportion of children with SEN and undiagnosed ASD. We won't generally have ehcps in place and many school children with these are able to go to school to maintain routine etc...It provides a more level standing. A good proportion struggle with online socialising. It's too wierd. We tried it a few different ways and children left in tears.

However, we're all too aware of public perception and lack of awareness of the law and wider contexts in general, so the reality is that we just daren't.

That's awful

Tbh I'm shocked at how much bureaucracy and control there is for everything

Following my comments about fishing, turns out i need a bloody permit!

@mightbealittlebitmad

I'm feeling quite miserable at the minute so my husband thinks I'm depressed because there are days when I just want to stay in bed and I lack the motivation to do stuff. Some days there are tears, like on Monday when I heard the schools were closing again. He thinks all of our marriage problems are caused by me being depressed and wants me to take anti depressants.

I’m so sorry. I feel a lot like that. I don’t take anti depressants. Was on Valium 40 years ago and that wasn’t the answer for me. I take natural supplements. Make sure I don’t get low on magnesium. Because of all the stress it takes it out of our adrenals , so I take a daily dose of iodine and ionic selenium.

It keeps me going. There is a difference between depression and grief..you are probably just experiencing grief at all the losses we’ve had ..and crying is perfectly acceptable.

Rant away here also.
Cos it’s shit.

@Tmpnamechange I agree on being wary about government online school provision - though, as an option with no pressure for anyone to use it, it could be good.

I've just had a moment having to stop myself crying

I always feel awful after crying so I try not to.

I did take a couple of things to aid sleep last night so that hasn't helped.

I don't feel depressed, miserable, bored, fed up. I get upset, I get angry, sometimes I think this will never end. I panic at the thought of it not ending or getting through another x amount of weeks. I'm resentful that he gets to go to work as normal and his daily life has barely changed whereas mine has been turned upside down. I feel totally trapped with no escape. I ask to be left alone to deal with things but he gets offended because he says we should deal with it together but that's not what I need. I need time to process things alone and I get frustrated that he doesn't listen and insists on talking about it or hugging me.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-derbyshire-55560814

Two women have described how they were surrounded by police, read their rights and fined £200 each after driving five miles to take a walk.

The women were also told the hot drinks they had brought along were not allowed as they were "classed as a picnic".

There are stories like these again - ther's another about ill child coming home from hospital being reported as a party and police turning up and things getting aggressive.

When we went on a walk to nearby canal there were some dogs walks from several houses have a very distantance just bumped into you chat. DH said pervious day when he'd gone for a walk by himself they'd been two police men on the bridge drinking coffee and he wondered if it was to stop thst happening - I thought it more likely they wanted a quiet place which wasn't overlooked to have a hot drink without someone reporting them.

Lady I'm with your DH

And I'm a bit confused, what would the police be reported for?

I ask to be left alone to deal with things but he gets offended because he says we should deal with it together but that's not what I need. I need time to process things alone and I get frustrated that he doesn't listen and insists on talking about it or hugging me.

Are there no indoor hobbies he'll leave you to do? DH has quiet a few that he goes and gets on with and even the kids generally leave me along when I'm reading in bed. Often after a day out or long day I'll reatreat there to recover. Sometimes while we're apparently doing the thing we actually having a quiet think.

When they were really young I did use to hide in the loo and if DH was home the shower - baths never seemed to get the same amount of space.

How can they class a hot drink on a cold day as a picnic? In summer it was crisps on a bench, now it's hot drinks. Our park has its kiosk open for takeaway. By that reasoning I'd have to take it home and drink it cold, rather than drink it around the park.

I thought it was only in Wales you couldn't drive for exercise and in England its stay local, we take that to be our town and the surrounding countryside that we access by car, like a 10min drive. We are walking as a family not mixing with anyone. We would see more people at the park we can walk to, and the older people get all huffy about the children well running cause it's all they are allowed to do. I'd rather take them to open space that we are lucky to have access to.

@AcornAutumn

Lady I'm with your DH

And I'm a bit confused, what would the police be reported for?

I'm sure someone would find something.

The bridge is a short walk from Greggs and the main road and then a quiter set of house lined streets not near any car parks and is first area that's not overlooked - so I suspect they were on a beat walk and were cold.

The canal goes on for miles and has quiet a few branches off into fields and has a lot of these bridges - there are loads of places people can arrange to meet if they wanted and loads of accidental meeting points - including play areas. I've never seen police walking down mointoring any sections in any of the lockdowns.

I thought it was only in Wales you couldn't drive for exercise and in England its stay local

The Debershire police in the article thought 5 min drive wasn't local.

Guidance for the current lockdown says people can travel for exercise as long as it is in their "local area".

The police force involved, Derbyshire Police, said driving for exercise was "not in the spirit" of lockdown.

....
Guidance issued by the Cabinet Office states that people can leave their homes for exercise but should not travel outside their "local area".

However, the actual legislation does not specify a maximum distance that people are allowed to travel for exercise.

I don't think the police were correct here - and I image in most areas they'll be more sensible.

Lady "I've never seen police walking down mointoring any sections in any of the lockdowns."

Oh we definitely had that in the last lockdown and there will be will be more overreach this time.

Home schooling my grandson was ok, as I didn't have to do it! His mum had done lot of it before I got there, his dad got sent home from work so he sat with the laptop and my grandson and did whatever, I watched cbeebies with the little one- easy peasy! See what it's like next week.

@AcornAutumn

Lady "I've never seen police walking down mointoring any sections in any of the lockdowns."

Oh we definitely had that in the last lockdown and there will be will be more overreach this time.

Clearly that's happening in parts of Debrshire hence the BBC article, I think they had form in previous lockdowns, and I can believe it's happening in other parts of UK.

However this hasn't been occuring where I am in previous lockdowns and I've seen no evidence it's happening now when there are more likey explinations to be had. Any polcie here would more likely be around train stations and roads that cross the border or in city center than where we are.

That’s the worry isn’t it
Police over reaching their remit.

Also I see in the amendments to the legislation, that the PCSO’s have been included...given them more powers?
Well I hope they’ve been given the training also

Surely the last thing the police want is to be seen as bad guys to normally law abiding citizens

Derbyshire police need to understand the difference between guidance and law. Mind you they were the eejits who used drones to film a guy walking his dog in the Peak District miles from another soul in March so powertrips aren't exactly new to them.

I need to do an hour round trip tomorrow to get some dog food. I don’t have enough freezer space to get it delivered and there is nowhere locally that stocks the type he has.

If I get stopped I shall suggest that the local constabulary free up an officer to come and lodge with me to take DDog out every couple of hours, day and night, to deal with the unpleasant side effects of changing food.