ADs are elite athletes and can run very fast

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Another thread in the saga filled up (so no forwards link)

I think maybe we're endurance athletes, or maybe multievent like a decathlon

Hello all,

I'm a bit behind with the reading, I've actually been working (in between faffing around on Twitter - I have plenty of data scientists / lockdown sceptics followed, so it's okay - I am really shocked though about how the debate is being shut down and anyone who challenges it is labelled a denier or anti-masker - there's a really worrying conversation (though not so much of a conversation) on The Psychologist's tweet - the magazine of the British Psychological Society - calling out psychologists who are challenging the covid-narrative).

Anyway, I digress, Loki this article is behind a paywall though it says you can contact the researchers for a copy - it's at least in part about the importance of the division between work and home when you're working with traumatic material - www.researchgate.net/publication/346890930_Sexual_violence_and_COVID-19_all_silent_on_the_home_front I have got a copy I can send to you if you wanted to DM me your email address (unless there's another way to do it, I don't know).

There's an AIBU on the masks - 90% are saying NO!

I have to be honest and say that if we see a further increase in children in school then something will have to give and that, I am very much afraid, will have to be the high level of teacher interaction with learning in the home that we currently offer and would like to continue. It is my hope that numbers have now stabilised and that this will not be necessary.

From my kids' school - threatening us with not supporting the kids at all if people dare need school places

@AaahWoof, I forgot to say earlier that you should never be made to feel bad for wanting a school place for your children. And your head sounds like a piece of work.

@wanderings Trouble is people seem so resigned to it. Everyone I’ve spoken to is of the impression that the headlines in the media are gospel and Boris is doing the right thing by locking us up again.

There doesn’t seem to be the appetite for any kickback despite the consequences of lockdown being worse than the virus for a vast majority.

@wanderings

With this soundbite of "lockdown may be needed next winter":

We need to start protesting this NOW, in any way we can. There's no doubt they're saying this now so they can say later "we did warn you", and also the usual strategy of "leak it to the press to see how the plebs react". We need to start making our opposition to this clear NOW, not showing a resigned acceptance. This is what I had feared all along. Lockdown has set a MASSIVE precedent, given them an emergency power, which they are not going to want to relinquish: they might even impose it "because they can". If we let this happen, every Christmas will be as miserable as the one we just had, which flies straight in the face of the dementors preaching "just suck it up this year, there will always be next Christmas". NO THERE FUCKING WON'T if this happens.

We need to GET ANGRY!

So what are you planning?

[quote Iheartmysmart]@wanderings Trouble is people seem so resigned to it. Everyone I’ve spoken to is of the impression that the headlines in the media are gospel and Boris is doing the right thing by locking us up again.

There doesn’t seem to be the appetite for any kickback despite the consequences of lockdown being worse than the virus for a vast majority.[/quote]
Unfortunately that's kind of the point (and I'm not an advocate) but it's why people are called selfish- for not wanting to shut down their lives to protect a minority. But the capacity of sacrifice from healthy people not at risk is not infinite. It's a favourite quote of mine from a AD on another thread in the covid board where she says "we are not Jesus"
The healthy are being forced to believe they will get very sick in order to comply.
Some believe and some don't

My best friend has disappointed me by being in favour of this lockdown. Argh.

@AcornAutumn What am I planning? Basically, just make sure that those who are NOT in favour of restrictions are HEARD. Writing to MPs. Social media. Protesting. The anti-lockdown voices are being gagged. The government, working hand in glove with the BBC and OFCOM, are making certain that the balance is pro-lockdown: they will only interview people who are pro-lockdown, only the scientists who are pro-lockdown are invited to speak. It is clear that the government is actively hushing up any anti-lockdown sentiment; it's all part of the drip drip brainwashing, to indoctrinate the public into their agenda; and I'm not using the word "indoctrinate" lightly.

I think at the moment, even though people can see that Boris's recent fuck up (his timing of the school closures) was monumental, and that it's a recurring pattern that he only acts when panicked, because things have become really bad, people are letting him off this time, because of the vaccine: incidentally, that's why I think the vaccine is not all good news, it will delay "learning to live with the virus", and restrictions will last even longer. I think that if there had been no vaccine on the horizon now, people would not be taking this lockdown lying down, they would be getting really angry by now. Even the "lockdown sceptic" MPs are keeping quiet, perhaps giving the vaccine a chance.

Even though we can't really do anything practical, I think we CAN keep talking, and getting the anti-lockdown sentiment out there. It really is a case of those who are heard are those who shout the loudest; and that really is not a level playing field now.

@wanderings good luck

The fight went out of me in the summer, as you might have seen from all my rantings.

Just checking in mid Christmas-in-January . Had a lovely walk with DD this afternoon and saw lots of swans on the river, including some gangly teenage cygnets, opened our presents, she got me an Oodie which I'm delighted about, I'm 3 gins down, and we're about to eat our Christmas Dinner cooked by my beautiful DD. This is the first time I've felt happy in ages. Cheers!

Cheers TooManyButtons
Enjoy Christmas!

Well said wanderings Its all very one-sided at the moment.

Oh what a lovely spot, @TooManyButtons , although, to my flood weary eyes, it looks a little wet. Is the water supposed to be that close to the houses?

Gorgeous pictures xxx

Enjoy, @TooManyButtons!

The Clap on a dark & cold winter's night, on icy front doorsteps? What could possibly go wrong?

At least it being dark means my curtains will be shut this time, & any pan-wielding neighbours won't see me bolting & hiding in horror. I can't cope with audience participation at a pantomime.

The thread on estimated school closures is stressing me out. Everyone on there is saying Easter at the earliest for reopening. My poor DD will crumble.if she has to be without interaction with her friends until then. She just wants to run around with them

Have there been some name changes?
Good news my DF has his date for vaccine, better late than never.
At work, we are joking that it’s our only social life. How sad is that.

Yes I changed. I've been on here a bit. I end up being too honest and then need a name change!

@TabbyStar

Hello all,

I'm a bit behind with the reading, I've actually been working (in between faffing around on Twitter - I have plenty of data scientists / lockdown sceptics followed, so it's okay - I am really shocked though about how the debate is being shut down and anyone who challenges it is labelled a denier or anti-masker - there's a really worrying conversation (though not so much of a conversation) on The Psychologist's tweet - the magazine of the British Psychological Society - calling out psychologists who are challenging the covid-narrative).

Anyway, I digress, Loki this article is behind a paywall though it says you can contact the researchers for a copy - it's at least in part about the importance of the division between work and home when you're working with traumatic material - www.researchgate.net/publication/346890930_Sexual_violence_and_COVID-19_all_silent_on_the_home_front I have got a copy I can send to you if you wanted to DM me your email address (unless there's another way to do it, I don't know).

Thank you @TabbyStar I'll take a look, as I may have to resign myself to wfh not as I have a particular aversion to the test (I think, tbh I'm not sure anymore) but the logistics of it. The test site is at the other side of the town. So I'd have to drive to work, work in the morning then schlep to the other side of town and back again (because of the times offered I can't do it on way in or out). And it'd be a journey on foot as by the time I'd walked to the car park, got my car, found somewhere to park and toddled to the test centre it'd be quicker to walk. And who wants to do that in the below freezing, stormy mess that is January..... I'm at home tomorrow so will think it through. Thank you to everyone for the copd information and stories, it's really reassuring.

I'm not normally this anxious but I feel like I'm running on emergency/crisis mode all the time so EVERYTHING seems like a huge deal. I don't understand how I've suddenly started being this way.

On the youtube flat earther threads they can't understand why more people are not siding with them. They say things like "I've tried to tell my family and friends, but they just believe what the government says".

They are genuinely bewildered by the fact that 99.9% of the world thinks they are wrong and the obvious explanation just never occurs to them.

Some of them don't believe other countries exist (because it's hard to make that fit with their 'theories').

Those blaming Boris for inventing lock-downs and restrictions just to be mean have the same problem don't you. You have to somehow believe that other countries don't exist or that they are carrying on as usual. (or possibly that Boris is secretly Chief Freemason/Lizard and rules the world. That would work too I suppose)

And the bit about applying laws to stop people finding out the truth only works if all other countries are a hoax too. Because in reality everyone is pretty much doing the same thing all over the world. It either all makes sense or ALL of it is a conspiracy.

What is AD?

@PMcGintysGoat

What is AD?

Copied and pasted OP explanation (I've not read Harry Potter)

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And the AD stands for anti dementor.
There are creatures in Harry Potter called dementors, who suck all hope and happiness from you and eventually take your soul. Way back at the start of the pandemic thread after thread was posted on by posters like this and anyone who'd dare question anything or disagree with anything (like putting cheese in your coffee) was bullied off these threads. And so any actual discussion disappeared and it became an echo chamber of misery.

We are the antidote to that. We follow the rules,but not the "roolz" and we question and discuss with respect to each other. It's all very civil.

@Sonicthehedgehogg

I think last time it was more readily received as the whole situation was novel, and the idea of coming together to give appreciation and a sense of community was well intentioned.

I mean, I think it's trite virtue signalling but each to their own.

This time the novelty has thoroughly worn off. Bringing back the clap is the glitter they are trying to roll this shit in.

I laughed out loud at the glitter comment! My dh always said it was an unfortunate choice of words, and this new "clap for heroes" is no better. Had a shit day today, got told I was a miserable cow by a customer because i didn't smile at his joke- firstly because I couldn't hear what he said, secondly I'm not a trained monkey, designed to laugh at his pathetic jokes and lastly after having to tell him several times to stand in the right place and stop leaning round my screen (!), my sense of humour was having a lie down! Arsehole.

@Reedwarbler

Oh what a lovely spot, *@TooManyButtons* , although, to my flood weary eyes, it looks a little wet. Is the water supposed to be that close to the houses?

It is actually a river, until a few days ago it was incredibly flooded but thankfully the water level is back to normal now!