ADs and their very long lists!

[LivinLaVidaLoki]

We were up to 999 posts so thought we needed a new thread!

Hello you lovely murderous bunch.

I was on and off these threads all spring and summer and you are all the total voice of reason. The madness of the Dementors is getting to me again, there are some very unhinged people on the coronavirus forum. So I'm back here for a dose of sensible.

Can't promise you sensible @RaspberryCoulis 😉😁

I've had to mute several people on FB (who I'd previously thought of as sensible) as they've all picked up on the 'blood on their hands' comment from the London doctor and are plastering it all over our local page. I have no doubt that it is beyond stressful but that kind of emotive language is not helpful IMO especially when he must have known that the press would pick it up and run with it.

Uh oh, just made the mistake of looking at the bbc news site and there is a headline about 'rule breakers having blood on their hands'. I mean, honestly! It's reminds me of the NRA in America, who like to parrot that 'guns don't kill people, people kill people'. It's all arse about face, isn't it? It's the virus that's doing the damage. This doctor (really?) they've spoken to says whole families are dying. (Double really?)
The sooner the bbc loses its whatchamacallit, the better as far as I'm concerned. They are a disgrace.

Oh sorry, see its already been commented on. Apologies. I should read more thoroughly before I post (in rage!)
Anyway, a very happy new year to you all. Ignore the crap on msm, grab your favourite poison, whatever it is, and hope for better things next year.

I expect tomorrow there will be outrage in the media/social about all the New Year’s Eve rule breaking etc but after that I hope everyone just fucking calms down. I’m past caring tbh.

Happy New Year to all of you. Here's hoping 2021, although it's obviously going off to a bad start, is a much better year for all of us!

@LivinLaVidaLoki thank you for the correction- I can only watch the news for a minute or two without endangering my tv so do admit I wasn’t listening properly 😁

'rule breakers having blood on their hands'.
What an unhelpful phrase. I know of a few rule-followers who would really take a comment like that to heart if they got covid & passed it on.

Maybe we should start saying that all bicycle shops have blood on their hands? After all, they sell bikes, some people have horrific, life-changing injuries from bike accidents...

Wishing everyone a better year to come, once it eventually happens. Hang on in there, everyone.

That bbc article and the actual doctor gave me the rage as well. What the hell is it with people wanting to blame everyone else? I hope when they look back on this they are ashamed by their comments but I doubt it.

The champagne has been poured already as I won't make it to midnight .

2021 can't be any worse than this year can it?????

Given the stats on nosocomial infections, if anyone who passes on Covid 'has blood on his/her hands' (of course they don't), perhaps a doctor should be looking firstly to himself and his colleagues.

No, I'm not blaming doctors. It's a virus. I don't blame someone for passing it on.

"Rule breakers have blood on their hands." Yes, like Tony Bliar does with his illegal war. That fucking Hugh Montgomery is worse than Boris. He's allowed to be "angry" about rule-breakers, but we're not allowed to be "angry" about the total destruction of education, employment, and many whole industries?

There's also more piffle waffle from Saint Boris about "spirit of togetherness". Yeah, right. How much further from the truth can you get? Never before has the public been so divided, encouraged by him and his merry men! Every bit of government policy has been designed to divide the public: face nappies, north v south, stay at home, clap or don't clap, playgrounds, you name it. And in all his piffle waffle about "2021 will be a great year", he or whoever replaces him is going to hush up unemployment and recession, suicide, obesity, mental health... sigh.

Professor Hugh Dementor Montgomery did say, however: "the new strain is only slightly more transmissible than the first strain, and with the same symptoms..."

Has he admitted something? Has he deviated from Boris's script? Has the mask slipped (no pun intended)? Did I hear that right? The new strain is ONLY SLIGHTLY more transmissible? So this "new deadly strain" was all a big government con? A huge piece of scaremongering, as usual, to frighten the plebs into staying home over Christmas and New Year? Will some sharp-eyed journalist spot this?

This is appalling.
summit.news/2020/12/30/uk-woman-arrested-for-filming-inside-empty-hospital/

Not so much the empty hospital, but the implications to censorship are deafening, and it is making it very clear that the government is actively silencing anyone who deviates from their script. We need to be getting ANGRY about this.

The demonising of uni students returning in full flow .

@wanderings I’ve been banned from commenting on our local paper’s website because I queried some of their reporting. Just asked in response to an article about positive cases how many tests had been carried out in the town, how many patients the town hospital was treating and how many had caught covid whilst an inpatient.

They no longer allow any comments on the daily numbers articles and the only comments allowed to stay are those from people who post “lockdown hard now” and “too many people breaking the rules” etc.

They assure me of their impartiality!

@Eve

The demonising of uni students returning in full flow .

My dd is going back tomorrow. She has some course work to compete and is better being back, she can concentrate more especially as next door have building work going on. She has barely left the house so hasn't got the virus.

Happy to new year to you all.
I will be going to bed before midnight, but wish I was ‘I shall wear midnight’
New year new me, going to try veganuary, be positive, go on exercise bike every day. Not sure which one will fail first

I normally watch the NYE celebrations on telly if I’m not going out, but I’ll be doing neither this year. The TV’s not even going on as I have a strong feeling the mawkish factor will be dialled up to 11 this evening.

So I shall raise a glass to you all — posters, lurkers and sceptics alike, and wish you all a happy new year. Lor’ knows we need it. 🥂

@Eve

The demonising of uni students returning in full flow .

We've been told we're not to enter campus until our designated (to be announced) return date. My course is one that is an exception to the new Govt rules - but they've made sure to put a note in that commuter students are only allowed on campus on the day their lectures start. My battle plan was always, if the kids were stuck at home from schools going fucked up, to decamp to the uni library and work there.

We have two assignments due in which count for the majority of our module marks (it's a module counting toward final degree weighting as well) - so basically we're going to have to do them without access to the library at all.

I'm at breaking point - I don't want to withdraw or suspend the course - but it's becoming harder and harder to keep going with it through this shite.

Happy New Year everyone! I've booked a UK holiday for Easter to make myself feel better. Let's hope it isn't like the last holiday I booked over New Year 2020 as that one didn't happen.

I've given up on the rules. I'm not entirely sure what they are all the time so I most definitely have 'blood on my hands'. If it's open and relatively local I use it. I've met friends outside when I think it might be against the rules but I'm not sure. However, I don't let anyone in my house apart from my official bubble just in case I get reported. I make myself feel better about the minor rule breaks on the basis a lot of people are doing far worse than me.

I’m sorry @DominaShantotto, that’s just shit!

@DominaShantotto

I don't envy any students right now.
I was thinking the other day that the students all went home weeks ago, & yet cases are rising here. So it isn't all down to the students. It's a virus that likes winter. But of course they will get the blame still. They're an easy target.

DS got an email from vice chancellor this afternoon, stay put until further notice. He was going back on Sunday, oh well, was not looking forward to driving in this bad weather anyway. He had assessments on 4th 5th and 6th will have to be online. His course proper does not start till 25th. I said it is what it is honey, no-one knows what tomorrow will bring.

My transgressions have always been on the basis that they do less harm than complying.

Sit on a sofa vs hypothermia in the pissing rain/ continue sobbing out of lonliness.
Lift the kids into the playground vs letting them slob around in a depressed state 3+ months after they last interacted with friends.
Exceed rule of six with one other household vs less illegally leaving children at home.

Our families are not local and we're not in each other's pockets anyway. We could count up our total family interactions on one hand. We don't qualify for bubbles. DH spends the working day holed up in what was the spare bedroom. I mooch around the house procrastinating on housework having lost my social contact of things like volunteering in school, parkrun, Guiding and Scouting. My risk to anyone else is negligible. My priority is for me and my family to survive this farce with minimal damage.

Anyway, I've had a good couple of days with well-timed legal activities. It's out of the house, indoors and satisfying to have a project although 2 hours notice of certain types of shops closing is annoying. Fortunately most needs are covered by the likes of Screwfix and B&Q. The DCs are enjoying being indoors in a space that is not our house