ADs and the hardon colanders

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@MeanMum2

Anyone else get an inkling of how the USSR controlled it's citizens and others? So sad not be to seeing my tier 4 family but I don't want to risk a massive fine or for neighbours to snitch on us.

Easier to comply isn't it?

Easier to comply isn't it? It's also better morally to comply. It's how all laws work in every civilised country.

If you like these threads you should check out youtube. They are planning riots too with even more reason as they know about the chips in the vaccine, the lizards in the government, and that all rules were created specifically to spoil Christmas (they have all watched The Grinch documentary )

good morning.

I've always hated the press and their fear mongering but I really, really hope they take their opportunity to rip the absolute shit out of Boris and his pals. I hope every last one of them who breaks the rules on Xmas are outed as the horrible bastards they are. (I don't care about "normal" people breaking the rules - we don't make them!)

I am so angry. So so angry, and now it looks like schools will close and I just don't understand why?

New strain? More virulent but more people asymptomatic? Well what's the problem then surely that's less people seriously ill taking up hospital beds isn't it?

We've had 3 cases since September in ds school, and they've all been teachers. Which says to me that small kids cannot be the massive risk they're painted to be can they?

Trust - virus gonna virus, or as someone said more eloquently on another thread “ It's a virus, its job in life is to spread. This hysterical need to blame our fellow man is absolutely absurd”.

Whichever way the government try to spin it, this is not a proportional response.

Exactly I've been saying this all along. Even if we are good little brainwashed citizens and nobody broke the rules it would still spread because it's a fucking virus!! Are people really so stupid that they can't understand that?

Someone said to me oh no it doesn't spread when people don't break rules. I asked him how it was spreading round hospitals, then? Didn't have an answer for that funnily enough.

swprs.org/contact/ An interesting collection of research studies which are fairly non biased. Apparently the mask study was refused publication in 3 journals for ‘political’ reasons. 😡Disagree by all means but do not censor.

@TrustTheGeneGenie

Exactly I've been saying this all along. Even if we are good little brainwashed citizens and nobody broke the rules it would still spread because it's a fucking virus!! Are people really so stupid that they can't understand that?

Someone said to me oh no it doesn't spread when people don't break rules. I asked him how it was spreading round hospitals, then? Didn't have an answer for that funnily enough.

Yes, people are that stupid, that’s been the biggest shock to me, I had no idea people were that thick.

It’s like in the early stages when the soap disappeared in the supermarket. Mum’s supermarket is huge - not like my tiny Aldi - so when I got there and there was no soap, I stood there thinking, how infrequently did these people wash their hands before?!

Yes exactly!! Like why do you not have soap?? I never got that either.

Me neither. We all wash our hands.

@Aztectrousers

Watched Boris and co on tv yesterday and feel totally flat. However, on the bbc news afterwards one of the reporters - Fergus maybe? - added a bit of sanity to the proceedings when talking about the new strain. He was saying don’t panic about the mutation, it’s what viruses do and quite often become less viralent. So less severe symptoms?

That's what I thought. They keep saying there's no evidence to say its stronger....so is it the same or is it less severe? I'm betting less. Viruses mutate to survive longer, if the host dies.....

We weren't great at washing our hands to be fair, but I think that's why we have good immune systems!

SufferingFromLongLockdown

BogRollBOGOF

Let's face it, a more virulent but milder strain simply goes into the category of normal, seasonal respiritory illness.

Pretty much this time last year, DS1's class has a third of children off ill with various colds and snifflre. DS was in bed for a week with I-don't-know-what, but he wasn't himself for weels and not 100% for a couple of months. No one batted an eyelid at so many children being the worse for wear.

Bogroll, that sounds very similar to the story up north where 3 local schools had to close. Around that time I've never been so ill in my life.

Can I ask whether you've since had many cases of coronavirus at the school?

3 classes out of 7 have missed one week (single form yR to y6) two of those were when local cases rocketed at the end of October before they rapidly subsided in November, peaking before lockdown influenced the figures. One class last week.

E Mids. Early top 5 hotspot at the start of all this. Quietened down over the summer but still rumbled on throughout in the inner city. London is a 1:30 train journey away. Easy connections to Paris.

I have thought it curious that we recently peaked and subsided so rapidly (albeit it local cases are creeping up again, not surprising in December) particularly when cases further north have been so stubborn at taking months to decline.

@TabbyStar

We weren't great at washing our hands to be fair, but I think that's why we have good immune systems!

I think it depends a lot on your lifestyle, but in London, with public transport and offices, handwashing is important.

I think if you mostly drive places it’s less of an issue. But these are London shops who ran out of soap that I’m thinking of.

At the beginning, mum didn’t go anywhere and kept randomly washing her hands. I’m not encouraging that. She’s calmed down. At least she never quarantined post!

@justasking111

Neighbors going to England panicking they have to drive Xmas morning and be back Xmas night. Drakeford only giving us Xmas day.

No doubt they’ll have a touch of food poisoning Christmas afternoon.

Or the driver got very drunk.

Honestly they cannot control people’s behaviour like this.

No doubt they’ll have a touch of food poisoning Christmas afternoon.

Or the driver got very drunk.

Honestly they cannot control people’s behaviour like this.

Heavy snow on Christmas afternoon across the UK would really mess with the "no staying over" rule. How many times when there's adverse weather do we get told to "only travel if your journey is completely necessary"? I'd like to see them trying to tell people it's safer to set off in a car in trecherous conditions than to stay indoors with another household! It would blow their minds.

Christmas night last year we drove home from PILs in dense fog, across country lanes. It was fine when we set off & we had no choice but to keep going. It was scary though. I hope people won't feel compelled to drive home in similar conditions because of the rules.

I can see a lot of car accidents happening. People will have got up early and will be driving home late, on unfamiliar roads, which will be busy. Some drivers might have had a couple of glasses of something and just be hoping they're under the limit. Even if it's not poor weather conditions, it'll be dark.

I wonder what 'they' would suggest the designated driver do, when her/his straight cola has been spiked by a mischievous teenage.

Or - even better - it snows heavily on Christmas Day afternoon (like a foot in the north and half and inch in the south )

Is it more illegal to drink drive or to go home a day later.

They can't police it anyway so I'm not sure why they didn't increase the period but strongly advise that no one stays away overnight (or more than one night) - spread the traffic out at least. AND the majority of people would obey and those that won't - won't anyway - they'll just prepare a good back story.

Well if people have got any sense they'll stay the night. What on earth difference does it make? If your relatives or you are going to pass it on, it will have already happened earlier in the day. This is a very strange virus - it only becomes infectious again on the stroke of midnight on Christmas day/boxing day, or if you are in a pub drinking, but not eating. It is definitely not infectious if you are a wealthy business traveller or are in a sport stadium crowd of 2000 people! No wonder everyone is confused and angry.

A PP mentioned about police setting up road blocks on the motorways. I have just checked the local traffic cameras and all the way along a local motorway are "not available". This is normally done if there is an accident on the road but there can not be accidents the full length of the motorway.

I have no doubt that the NHS is close to full capacity and it’s all pretty grim but it’s often nearly this bad in a bad flu year (I’m pretty sure in 18 there were beds in corridors and whatnot?). I would really like to know from Whitty etc what they think should have happened in those years too..? And in future years too, no doubt there should be some kind of lockdown every bad winter?

Anyway, I’m in Tier 4 and Christmas plans are off... what a shit year. Thankfully DC are young and mostly just bothered about presents.

Reminds me of this photo I saw recently @zigaziga

As Christmas and New Year are times of reflection for many, I wonder if Boris has the self awareness to think:
Fucked up lockdown
Fucked up Brexit
Fucked up Christmas
Perhaps I should quit....

It is definitely not infectious if you are a wealthy business traveller

Even though they were the first people to bring it to the UK. I am being deliberately facetious. I know the was no chance of us doing, or even wanting to do, a NZ but it is the attitude that the blame game focuses on those who have no choice (Childcare, essential but minimum wage workers and multigenerational families with smaller living accommodation as examples).

It's all their fault, opine some who frequently have large gardens, plenty of cash and the time and inclination to home school etc.

You folk are gonna love this. OH went out early this morning to walk dogs on a deserted beach, when he said a polite good morning he was glared at by a large party of young, middle aged older folk. He was puzzled but cracked on with the walk. When he returned noted they were drinking prosecco and having a great time. This time when he said good morning, they admitted they were three families exchanging prezzies, one from Cheshire, one from Pwllheli one from Conwy. Now OH has absolutely zero problem with this, when he said so they relaxed. it was around 6 degrees on that bloody beach at the time. They were moaning that Drakeford has locked us down as a nation despite N Wales figures being uber low because that is how socialism works. They had trouble getting their heads around that. But that is how socialism works. Which begs the question what is Sturgeon up to with tiers if SNP are true socialists.

@justasking111

Some are more equal than others????????????

@justasking111 the whole of Scotland except the islands is going into tier 4 which is pretty much full lockdown, plus schools and nurseries shut.